The feeling of the need for power

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Can anyone relate to this? Is this normal? Since I was very young I had aspirations of understanding ecology, but as I have gotten older, I have had the desire for gaining power.
 

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thats your ego talking man. You dont want to succumb to the self-righteous needs of the ego. It will take you down to some deep, dark places that you'd have wished you never went to.
 

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I am egotistical, but that is what drives me.

I do have interests elsewhere, it is just that those interests do not satisfy my ego. My ego is what gives me my desires.
 

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Plinco said:
Can anyone relate to this? Is this normal? Since I was very young I had aspirations of understanding ecology, but as I have gotten older, I have had the desire for gaining power.
Power over what, or whom?
 

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Over my environment!

Also I have a drive to be stronger, but I also should have more drive to be more competent (I am getting better in that area).
 

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I want to be stronger so that I can provide more value to people.

It is much of my ego, I want to be the most valuable, feared, and admired person on the planet.
 

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Haha, okay.

Do what you want to do, but if you try to control my life you'd better watch your back ;)

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Really though, sounds like an insecurity more than anything. However if it motivates you to get up in the morning and pursue what you love then more power to ya.
 

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I think power for most of us comes down to this; having control in our own lives. We all want acceptance, our choice of women, money, salaries and in order to get all of these, we need some measure of control of those around us. Tucker max and robert greene had an excellent discussion about this on the radius media forums years ago too. Power often gets a negative connotation, but its natural to seek it out - no one is really the exception. As Greene stated at the onset of 48, those who seem to not want it are the most cunning at getting power.

True power is out of most of our reaches. None of us will ever wield the power of state and the like. Who knows, those feelings could be extremely invigorating and much different than the feeling of control described earlier.
 

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To the above poster: Now I feel better!

I found this site because of my ego, interestingly I found out that I actually needed this site because of my ego; my ego often prevents me from making connections with people. I think the key here is to harness my ambition appropriately.
 

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Well done Synergy,finally an interesting reply to an interesting topic.
 

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The game of power is inescapable. The game is inescapable for the reason every human interaction we ever engage is an interaction, exchange, chemical reaction of powers, whether intentional or unintentional, benign or malign, mundane or extraordinary. Do not listen to people who don't know what they're talking about, do not listen to those who don't understand power. Do not listen to homeless guys lecture you about the evils of power.
If the world is a like a giant scheming court and we are trapped inside it, there is no use in trying to opt out of the game. That will render you powerless, and powerlessness will make you miserable. Instead of struggling against the inevitable, instead of arguing and whining and feeling guilty, it is far better to excel at power. In fact, the better you are at dealing with power, the better friend, lover, husband, wife, and person you become... If the game of power is inescapable, better to be an artist than a denier or a bungler.
 

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Okay, there are more thoughts that can be put into this, but here is my take after thinking about it.

The ego drive is not the same as the search for value drive. The search for value drive is who you really are, and the ego drive is telling you to that your search for value drive is not good enough, and that you need to attain a higher status with accordance to society.
 

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Here is an example of what I was talking about:

A young man that would rate as a 5 on the 1-10 attractiveness scale should be able to get a hb5 with no problem, but his ego is telling him to get a hb9.

Maybe the ego is not such a bad thing.
 

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Plinco said:
Here is an example of what I was talking about:

A young man that would rate as a 5 on the 1-10 attractiveness scale should be able to get a hb5 with no problem, but his ego is telling him to get a hb9.

Maybe the ego is not such a bad thing.

What if the man is unable to attain the HB9 that his loin so desires -- should he go through life unhappy and discontented because of the hand he was dealt?

Sometimes it is better to focus on what you have, rather than what you don't.
 

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TyTe`EyEz said:
What if the man is unable to attain the HB9 that his loin so desires -- should he go through life unhappy and discontented because of the hand he was dealt?

Sometimes it is better to focus on what you have, rather than what you don't.
you can either lower your standards for other women, or raise the standards in yourself and demand more from you sot hat you can get that woman


read pook's post on this, it's pure gold.
 
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backbreaker said:
you can either lower your standards for other women, or raise the standards in yourself and demand more from you sot hat you can get that woman


read pook's post on this, it's pure gold.

I was trying to convey the fact that you can't always get what you want. I do agree, though, that we should always try to better ourselves.
 

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TyTe`EyEz said:
What if the man is unable to attain the HB9 that his loin so desires -- should he go through life unhappy and discontented because of the hand he was dealt?

Sometimes it is better to focus on what you have, rather than what you don't.
worst post ever......

Only real fools believe something is impossible...

Want to hear impossible?:
- man flying in the air is impossible
- making a iron object that weighs a 1000kg move is impossible
- making iron (wolfram) glow, so we have light, is impossible
- etc...

Yet all those things do exist... Nothing is impossible, only the weak use that word to justify their stupidity and arrogance. They suppress other peoples potential to make them feel better about themselves...

It's ALWAYSE good to focus on a goal. True, achieving the goal will probably never give you satisfaction, but striving to achieve your ambitions and looking back on the things that you have achieved will give you satisfaction.

We're all created equal, some of us just work harder to achieve their goals.

To the OP: please don't read posts of people telling you what you can't do... What is their credibility to tell you what's possible and what's not... What have they ever done, except complain, to attain the knowledge to separate realistic from unrealistic, possible from impossible, good from bad? (Good and bad is just an illusion mankind has made...)

Do you're thing, maybe now you hunger for power but I honestly think that by following that hunger, you will one day find what you really seek and then you'll be able/prepared to do what you have to do.
 
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Credos said:
worst post ever......

Only real fools believe something is impossible...

Or realists.

It's ALWAYSE good to focus on a goal. True, achieving the goal will probably never give you satisfaction, but striving to achieve your ambitions and looking back on the things that you have achieved will give you satisfaction.

As I said in my last post: we should always try to better ourselves.

We're all created equal, some of us just work harder to achieve their goals.

I don't know what fairytale you're living in, buddy.
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