MoveYourAss... said:
Well, now I disagree with LS. STRONGLY.
I thought you advocated artificial pu$$y to solve some acute problem. If you like to use it once in a while AFTER THAT, so what. But do not "give up" on the real thing. Even if it means to temporarily look out for opportunities primarily to train your problem....
Nobody is giving up on the real thing. In fact the use of the FL is governed by a system where I do have to make a minimal effort to go after qualified women who has shown interest in me.
For example, there is a Spanish co-worker (agent) at my office. I 'have' to make attempts to ask her out, ask her out effectively, follow up with her until I'm satisfied there is a clear rejection from her. So far, I'm just getting mixed-messages. If I fail to make an effort on her, the FL could be placed in the basement or destroyed. If I really get turned down by her (i.e. no acceptance or volley back from her), I keep the FL without risk of being under the 'default gun' unless another girl challenges the system.
Another girl was rejected because she was a smoker (i.e. smokes cigarettes). I don't want to go out with a smoker -- but I did take her out or will take her out for social experience.
These are examples where the FL when governed by a system can actually prove to be a beneficial tool since if you fail to make even minimal efforts, especially where opportunity presents itself, it could be dismantled by reasons of being on default.
Moveyourarse said:
I agree it's good not to have a desperate ego-need to get laid. On the other hand, on the journey from AFC to DJ it might be natural to experience a phase of exaggeratedly strong "goal orientation". Was for me, at least.
It all depends on life situation and state. I was goal orientated earlier this year, but then decided, it just doesn't really fit into my life at the time. I decided I wasn't interested in going after a 50 year old woman, although it may have fit into the 'goal orientation' mold. I've decided that after asking a girl out three times and not properly following up with it (same Spanish girl earlier this year - but she volleyed interest back by asking me out later, etc...), that I cant push myself if it's not naturally part of the flow of my life.
moveyourarse said:
I strongly reject the idea of getting too laid-back about it and say: Well I got my nice little toy.... . "possibly maybe gotten laid 2 years back" - that's not really the level I would be satisfied with and relax with the idea of once in a while using your little, admittedly non-*****y, "girl-friend".
Again, this has to be part of the natural flow of life. If you got other issues, such as when you are making the next deal, the living situation where you are living with parents, dealing with lawsuits, etc... it could really put you out of a frame of mind where that would be a priority.
Anyway, for the record, I am cultivating friendships with various women, both overseas and local and believe that is a priority, but getting laid is not a priority with me at all. I understand I didn't grow up with a sister, or have much female influence in my life, so I think this is necessary.