The Effects of a Bad Break-up

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I haven't been consistently posting as i've been busy and I've realized my interest in topics about women has faded. Hearing the same stories over and over again from different posters and sometimes worse.....the same poster (it happens to the best of us) just frustrates me. I also feel it is my duty as a veteran, non afc, and having recovered from a horrible break-up to help educate and teach the young padawans to protect themselves. Ignorance is not bliss when is can cause your entire life to crumble before you.

Many of us have found sosuave by chance due to a girl that rejected us, or failing to achieve success with women in general, and in my case, which i believe some of you can relate to, a bad break-up.

I'm trying to see if anyone can relate here.

I have been educated by sosuave and my fellow dj's. My success has increased significantly with women as well.

I've realized that i hit a complete 180 regarding women. I used to be a complete afc and chased girls like crazy. I fawned over them, wrote them love letters, poems, bought them crazy gifts, embarassed myself chasing them. I had no problem making a fool of myself telling a girl i liked her, etc. Luckily i'm fairly attractive, tall and slender which worked to my advantage. It was all a big game and a very important part of my life.

Ever since this last break-up. I rarely....very rarely chase women for fun or in general chase them at all (the game used to be, get the girl but doing something different from the ordinary guy). Most will now ask me out one way or another. I rarely let anyone get close to me (female) and the ones that i do give the opportunity find some way to turn me off later. I rarely try to meet women anymore and it's not on my to do list. All i do is work, study, read, plan for the future, spend time with friends, work out and more work & studying.

Women are nowhere on my mind. It has taken me 2 full years to fully get back to normal and even now though i am normal, the thought of that particular girl coming back into my life scares me. I have no problem telling her no to her face and that i don't view her the same way anymore but in my mind, it's just a barrier i'm putting up for myself to protect myself from her, a person that is capable of destroying my life into pieces. she's contacted me many times by phone, text, email but eventually i called her out to talk in person and i told her to stop. She stilled called and emailed on rare occassions. I never answered the emails but picked up the calls and kept the convo's short and to the point.

She was the only female i really let into my life, i have dated others and slept with them or hooked up. I've been on so many dates and no girl has really peaked my interest except maybe 2 and those didn't work out. While my friends are chasing girls or the ones that have girlfriends talking about theirs...im kinda like uh i don't want to hear your drama. They ask me about girls whether im interested in so and so, etc. i just don't really care. I am still attracted to women and have approached ones i was interested in but ultimately, i can't help but think........

That i might have been scarred. That i am one of the individuals that was broken by a bad break-up and don't find interest in the stuff anymore, etc. Does anyone else experience this? Or maybe i've just matured and women aren't my main focus and i partition my time out to chase ones i am interested in.

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Your behavior/mindset is not a sign of maturity whatsoever.
 

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I hope you understand I value your one line answer with no explanation very little if at all.
 

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Appreciate the elbow to the gut. Maturity implies psychological evolution, the ability to handle stress through experience and to react in a grounded manner. You are doing the opposite, running from the experiences that have the possibility of inflicting negative emotional stress on you. Maturity requires experience, which you have. But it also requires understanding and acceptance, which you lack. The advice on this forum enables readers to grow and gain maturity but only if they put the advice to use, meaning they open themselves to the possibility of being hurt. You have foreclosed that possibility and have chosen to live in an emotional shell. You are regressing not maturing.
 

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I agree with some of the OPs thoughts. Although I must say, in this day and age, it takes SO MUCH longer for people to get over break ups. Part of the reason people still hold on is because of things like facebook, twitter, smartphones, emails, etc. With so many avenues to get into contact with an ex or check up on them without them knowing, it's like..how can you get over them without seeming like a loser? In order to get over someone in today's world you need to delete their phone number, block them on social media sites, and block their email. After doing that, you feel so much worse as you are basically accepting defeat and hurting your own ego. Especially when all you have to do is "unblock" them to see/talk to them again. There is never any closure anymore because things never end. 20 years ago a break up meant you were never going to see each other again. Now a break up means the person who initiated the break up will never see you again, but the person who got broken up with has to deal with the secondary pain of seeing the other person move on with their life in a more happy way than before.

The only way to get over a break up, especially the hard ones, is to accept it. Life ain't easy and the more you try and fix things the worse they get. I know this from firsthand experience. I never wrote poems or nothin, but I wrote a couple emails after the break up and played facebook games to try and get my ex back. I have talked about what happened after I got her back, but that's another story. In the long run, it's not worth it to try and get back with these people. Once they have seen the afc side of you, it's the only part they want back. They want to be in control of your life because it's what gives them an ego boost. The minute you don't give it to them you are a "different" person. I saw that with my ex. Prior to her breaking up with me I was a total DJ in her book. I didn't put up with her sh!t, was always the leader, and just generally a strong person. For 2 weeks I backslid. She broke up with that guy, like all women would. When she came back and I was back to my old self, she told me I had changed and she didn't like it. I was back to the man she loved but she couldn't see it. It's pretty tragic really.

I'm not going to hate on women. I hold myself in a high regard, but not too high that I can't place some of the blame on myself. Women nowadays can make any mistake they want in relationships and get a kind of "get out of jail free" card. However if a man makes even a two week mistake it's game over for the girl. All I did was open up and get punished for it. How does that make me a bad person? Women don't want men who "open up." They want men who let them open up. Why it's so hard for most of us to move on is because you let this girl into your life like no one else before and she walked. It's the ultimate disrespect to show someone all that you are and get rejected for it. The solution is to better yourself and accept that some people just aren't meant to be. You can't move into a little shell and ward off anyone else who comes into your life. It takes a while to get your emotions stable, but after you do you'll wonder why you ever fretted over the girl in the first place.

Finally, I'd like to advise people to stay away from FB. Yea, it's good for an ego boost every once in a while...and sure you can meet people and stay connected with old friends. But real relationships aren't meant to be virtual. My real friends call me, they don't facebook chat me. I'd also like to advise people to stay away from women named Nicole, Mary, or Rachel. They have never served me well.

Sorry to hijack your thread bro.
 

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It's important to reach a point in your life where other peoples actions cannot affect you. Guarding your emotions is not the same as controlling them. If a woman no longer suits you, don't hide from or avoid her. You tell her you no longer want that level of intimacy with her and that you are going to see other people and that's it. You control your life, you decide what happens in it, period end of story. She calls you to chat? fine talk to her and when you have had enough "alright i'll talk to you later, peace." and that's it, no excuses, no explanations. Any girl you are involved with now is only one of many you will be involved with. A grain of sand in your beach of poon dude. Ignore that crap and move on. Don't avoid the whole section of beach because you caught a little bur in your heel. Take that bur and season your pork chops with it. Promise it'll taste good.

"she's contacted me many times by phone, text, email but eventually i called her out to talk in person and i told her to stop. She stilled called and emailed on rare occassions."

All this tells me is that this girl pissed you off and you're still being nice to her. Time to start being a d*ck. You'll sleep better at night knowing your sleeping in a life of your making with decisions that you enforce.

I don't think this is right or a suggested way of being. But if a girl pisses me off I don't even get mad at her. I degrade her in my life to just being a girl I just bang when i'm bored. When I get home at 2AM drunk i'll call her to f*ck, until she either gets sick of the treatment or just gives in and becomes my personal wh*re. Maybe she will start to make me happy again? Maybe i'll give her another shot? Maybe I won't even take her calls unless i'm horny. But know what? no matter what she does... I win.
 

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AAAgent said:
Or maybe i've just matured and women aren't my main focus and i partition my time out to chase ones i am interested in.
AAA

I've been through the same as you and this is what I believe.
Though possibly not "matured" but just annoyed/bored with most women in general.

Sure, if an opportunity comes up/chemistry is there, go for it.

But I'm not out actively chasing like I used to and have no desire to.
 

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OP man, I really feel for you. Some of us have been really chewed up and spat out by these girls. I 'm sorry to sound lame, but I would bet that you couldnt get a much more insane time than i've had....really insane.

Thought she was real heaven, but she was real hell. So, I've had my time as a recluse, suicidal thoughts/ideation, hatred, anger, depression.......but never, never have i ever LET a block occur in my mind for another womam. Yes you may go on 20/30/40 dates with duff women. You may spend pointless hours in bars for an illusive woman..... but at some point, statistically, somebodys gonna come along who piques you interest.

As Sir Winston Churchill said "Never, never, never surrender"
 

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Good post by AAA,

I feel the same in a way however i think the feelings come from being so severely hurt that i dont bother to chase girls although i force myself to so i could "move on" but many times i get the feeling like "eh, whats the point". Im going through a roller coaster of emotions in terms of anger, sadness, calmness. I dont want to become a huge azzhole but that little devil voice in my ear keeps whispering "f*ck all these girls, they all are full of it" and the Angel in my other ear tells me "dont worry, relax and play it cool and collective, you'll be fine". I never thought a girl could shake my mental health like this i couldnt imagine someone who's married and has children involved, that must be hell on earth.
 

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The post wasn't supposed to be about the girl but i thought i'd mention how she makes me feel because It might be relevant to why I am the way i am now.

I'm the same i am now as i've always been with women. I don't open up in general to people unless they can prove trustworthy and allow me to open up. I'm just naturally guarded.

Basically i'm just trying to say women are no longer my number 1 priority anymore like the majority of people here. women might not even be in my top 5. I used to want a family at 25-26, kids, house, dogs, a yard, and be ready to move to the burbs, etc. Now i definitely don't want a house anymore, i don't want to be tied down, i don't want a serious relationship because it will tie me down, I don't want to get serious with a girl because (it actually is a bit frightening), etc. I don't hold relationships, i date and i have ONS or flings. Then i realize i'm only lying to myself and the girl if i pretend to enjoy this and i basically leave them. The girls understand and sometimes want me to stay but they know i won't.

I want a family and kids....and i'd obviously want to marry a fine/hot a$$ chick, but now i don't want to deal with the drama that is required of maintaining a hot ass chick. I'd prefer a 6.5/7 as opposed to a 9 because then i don't have to worry about maintaining the frame as it's so troublesome and tiring. I want to be a kid when i want to be, and if i want to be cold and act like an adult when i want to too, I want the freedom. Women just involve too much drama and time. When i think about women, it makes me feel trapped. I'm ranting now as i just got back from work.
 

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The biggest lie men tell themselves is that they'll find a permanently hot-ass chick.

Remember:

A) You will get bored of her looks (6-12 months)
B) Her beauty will automatically fade with age anyway

The problem is, after you get bored of her, other men still are still awestruck because they don't know better yet, so she strays.

So beautiful women are best for dating for 6 months or so. Even the not-so-pretty ones are just as high maintenance after 6 months. They want you to basically take care of all their needs or you're not good enough, and none of us can live up to their dads because the economy isn't the same.
 

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The girl I loved, who I dated for three years, cheated on me and then tried to frame me for a crime I didn't commit, but the peoples jury hung me long before the law proved me innocent.

Bad break ups happen. I get where you're coming from; between that and this site and what I've learned from those on it it's hard to remain open to letting women into your chest when you know women, as an absolute, are the most deceptive, dishonest, crazy, dangerous creatures on earth.

But the fact is, when you realize that, you either become a DJ or a Monk. Dj's just keep on nexting until they find one with enough redeeming qualities for awhile. Monks live without women and hair.

Pick one.
 

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Cabal said:
But the fact is, when you realize that, you either become a DJ or a Monk. Dj's just keep on nexting until they find one with enough redeeming qualities for awhile. Monks live without women and hair.

Pick one.
That had me cracking up. Never thought about it that way. I feel like i've had an epiphany after reading that. I am a vegetarian on a side note but sadly i do enjoy women to the point that i'd rather not be a monk.
 

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Cabal said:
The girl I loved, who I dated for three years, cheated on me and then tried to frame me for a crime I didn't commit... it's hard to remain open to letting women into your chest when you know women, as an absolute, are the most deceptive, dishonest, crazy, dangerous creatures on earth.
"Well honey I've been a fool
but a bigger fool I can't remember when I've been
Just to open up my heart
and let you walk right in.

Now there's one thing in this life
Ain't hard for me to do
That's as soon as I kiss the lips of another woman
I'm gonna forget all about you."

-Marshall Tucker
 

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Cabal said:
The girl I loved, who I dated for three years, cheated on me and then tried to frame me for a crime I didn't commit, but the peoples jury hung me long before the law proved me innocent.

Bad break ups happen. I get where you're coming from; between that and this site and what I've learned from those on it it's hard to remain open to letting women into your chest when you know women, as an absolute, are the most deceptive, dishonest, crazy, dangerous creatures on earth.

But the fact is, when you realize that, you either become a DJ or a Monk. Dj's just keep on nexting until they find one with enough redeeming qualities for awhile. Monks live without women and hair.

Pick one.
LOL Brilliant post CABAL.

How did you get on in your very unfair situation? I remember the post, where she framed you..... what happened next?
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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