The dreaded cold approaches

[krasnyiLion]

Hi, Dj's, like all of you, i am on a quest to find out how to get laid on a regular basis. Not only that but also how to be attractive to the females and have a pretty good success rate. i will give you a little bit of info on my current standing:
I am 21 years old
I am a smart*ss
I am pretty c*cky
I am funny
I am always told I am flirty
I have a very flirty, sexual, smile according to lots of females
I am cute ( according to lots of girls)

yet i am not getting the results i should be getting, girls are not fl*cking to me and lining up to be with me. Lots of girls agree that i am a pretty good catch, i emediatly start flirting with girls as soon as i meet them. i get IOI from a lot girls but it never leads anywhere. I am puzzled, i am doing good financially for my age, i am pretty confidence, i don't mind rejection, i think i have a natural DJ personality, i have social proof. at work everyone knows me and every one likes me. yet i am not getting laid huh ?????? ??????
i do get numbers, and make out with girls.
I am doing pretty good now that i think about it. but i feel i deserve more.
and on a more regular basis.

i will post a pic of me so you judge my attractiveness for yourself ( to me i am the hotest guy on the planet) i am kinda short though 5'5
( as soon as i figure out how)

anyway instead of ranting about myself here is my point. i will set out to be the best possible DJ i can be, i will make no excuses for myself, and i will keep you posted. First of all i want to master the so called cold approaches, because they are the hardest and i believe to most empowering. imagine going anywhere and having the ability to be so good at it that you can pick a girl up, when you want to.
i am down for that.

at first my approaches will be awkard i know, but like riding a bysicle it will be easier and easier. Your recomendations and your advice is very well apreciated. anything i am doing wrong and how to correct it will be apreciated.

here i will get to 100 approaches, i know i can. and I WILL my goal is to do these concistently, I should have reached that number by in 3 months doing 1 approach a day.

so i will get there. and hopefully i can learn so much and give really insightful advice to guide and pass on the knowledge to the newbies once these art is mastered. Girls are all about having fun, The only way we can master something is by practicing.

 

[WC2]

First of all, girls will not lineup for you if you're waiting on them, which it seems you are.

Second of all, if a girl says you're a good catch, it's most likely out of courtesy. Usually women who are attracted to a certain man, rarely reveal their hand right away with a cheesy line like that.

Third of all, just because everyone "likes you" doesn't exactly mean you are put into the catogory of a Don Juan. Just because a woman treats you well or is nice to you doesn't mean she is attracted to you. Don't take all compliments as an open door.

I encourage you to do as many approaches as you'd like. BUT there are certain things you will learn the hard way. What's the easy way? Read some articles in the bible. While you say that you are inspiring to be a DJ, it seems like you haven't got some of the most basic fundamentals down.

Women don't work like men. Women have a two track mind. Say one thing, do the other. Men have a one track mind. Say one thing, and do exactly that. Women work off emotions, not logic. You can't pick apart certain lines a woman might drop to you. Either she is emotionally moved by you, or she is not.

 

[LegendBoy]

Only way a cold approach works is if they are physically attracted to you. Another is if they are with frirends good luck getting there numbers.

On there own + plus physical attraction= NUMBER

 

[krasnyiLion]

First of all, girls will not lineup for you if you're waiting on them, which it seems you are.

Second of all, if a girl says you're a good catch, it's most likely out of courtesy. Usually women who are attracted to a certain man, rarely reveal their hand right away with a cheesy line like that.

Third of all, just because everyone "likes you" doesn't exactly mean you are put into the catogory of a Don Juan. Just because a woman treats you well or is nice to you doesn't mean she is attracted to you. Don't take all compliments as an open door.

I encourage you to do as many approaches as you'd like. BUT there are certain things you will learn the hard way. What's the easy way? Read some articles in the bible. While you say that you are inspiring to be a DJ, it seems like you haven't got some of the most basic fundamentals down.

Women don't work like men. Women have a two track mind. Say one thing, do the other. Men have a one track mind. Say one thing, and do exactly that. Women work off emotions, not logic. You can't pick apart certain lines a woman might drop to you. Either she is emotionally moved by you, or she is not.

exactly why i am here, right?......learn
i feel a little hostility there but hey, you seem to know exactly how girls work
more power to you.

now on with the learning process.

yeah legendboy, that is exactly it. see what i have found out though is that these hole IOI or interest level is not really acurate, because personally what i think is that initially or when you meet a girl (most of them, i mean there are the ones that get attracted and are imediately interested)
girls are RECEPTIVE
and the more you advance, the more you go out, the more you kiss them
the more RECEPTIVE they get. that is why is so important to make a move and keep advancing and advancing further and further, because girls who
are interested are RECPETIVE to your advances.

physicall atraction plus conversation = a recptive girl for the time being hehehe
( i mean, getting numbers out girls i don't even know is not a new thing for me but i want to master it)

thanks for all the advice, and the encouragement in advance

 

[Delta]

yeah,

it is odd that the place seems to be literally SWIMMING with hostility. i don't get that. it must be all the bull hormones or something...

don't worry about it. lots of helpful folks here too.

first - there's a discrepancy that i don't get in your situation:

"i do get numbers, and make out with girls. I am doing pretty good now that i think about it. but i feel i deserve more. "

what i'm picking up on is a degree of self delusion (or extreme positivity) along with a certain vagueness about what it is you're not getting. don't get me wrong, self delusion on the positive side is often a prerequisite first step for most of us here (including me... fake it till you make it as they say) but it can cloud the issue when you're discussing things here.

so elaborate on your disappointment. do you get laid frequently? is that what you want? do you want a relationship and is it not happening?

you don't need to sell yourself to us here. and you are soliciting advice so let's get down to it. what's going on exactly?

delta

 

[krasnyiLion]

8/23/06
I was with my Female-friend at a restaurant eating and having a good time, and the waitress was pretty cute. so when she came to the table i asked her her name

" hi, you're pretty cute, what's your name?"
her "my name is waitress, (no. waitress is not her real name ) and thanks"
(but as she said thanks she looked at my female friend as if she was my date and i was disrespecting her)
so she asked if we were ready smiling and giving me eye contact.
we ordered dinner
i kinda new that i wasn't gonna get her number but i asked anyway
" so what's your number?"
her " i don't have a phone number at the moment"
" hahahahahah ( it was genuinely funny) man, you could have come up with a better excuse ehhehehe alright

8/24/06
i was at the mall with one of my friends, we went to a cofe place to get some cold cofe to drink. the girl there seemed pretty flirtatious but she seemed to give my friend more interest than me. but i went ahead and asked her
"hey what's your name?"
" my name is cofe girl what is yours?
"my name is krasnyiLion, how old are you?"
"im 18"
my friend "ahahah yeah nowadays you got to ask the age, man you never know how little they might be"
her (giving him some major eye contact and bitting her lower lip while smiling at him)

we sat down we talked and we had our cofe, i told him she liked him, he said no man i think she likes you dog,
ok ill get her number then, i said
"hey cofe girl, what's your number?"
her " i dont give my number out to people i dont know, i had some bad experiences"
me "heheh ok, I am not a stalker though i will only call you every 5 minutes"
her "hehehehe"
me " what is your e-mail then?"
her " i dont go online much"
me " oh crap,hahaha i get the hint"
her " no, no it's not like that"
me " it's cool" (while smiling)

8/24/06
we got out of the cofe place we walked acouple of steps when this girl just looked at me and she was checking me out, my friend is like dam, she is giving you major play man, look at that you are attracting the ladies, man.
" i know" so i look back and she still looks at me with a shy smile and when i smiled at her she looked down and blushed. oh it was on !!!!!!!

i walked back and i asked her
"what is your name?"
my name?
" yeah, just had to come back and get your name"
my name is cutegirl"
ok cool. what's your number?"
sure, can you wait like 3 minutes, i got to get this costumer, but....hold on.....(talks her boss )( i think or her dad, i dont know)comes back (by her body language you could tell she was excited and nervous) ok will you come back or.........."
"no i've got to go"
goes over and askes for a pen, and scrambles for a paper, takes one of the flyers and gives me her number"
smiling and giving me a lot of eye contact

it was funny the costumers were looking at us and smiling so was that older dude, he is all, " i've just got to make sure that they don't play with her, they have to buy her a house and a nice car, they have to work at a hospital and have a good job you know"
she was still smiling at me and looking shy
the dude is like " so where do you work"
me "i work at a hospital"
the dude " ok cool man, nice to meet you, so when's the wedding?"
i just smiled at her and said "see you" she smiled back
and as a turned around they were talking about it

that was too easy
my friend is like " hey man you be attracting the ladies, i got to hang out with you"
it's easy man, all you got to do is ask


and DELTA yeah im 21 i wanna get laid a lot more often than now
heheheh

 

[bingo_]

nice catch lion, let me know how it goes with that bird

 

[krasnyiLion]

hey, i have been slacking with the approaches, but I went out with the girl from my last approach today.
8/27/06

i called her today ( the cutegirl from the mall)
she called me back and we had a little conversation, which i wasn't really feeling (i had a hang over from staying over at one of my female coworkers appartment)
i wanted to cut the convo short so i told her i had to go. she imediately asked me if i had a girlfriend or if there was a reason for my sudden lost of interest. i told her " if i didn't want to talk to you i wouldn't have called you"
"i promised my bro i would take him to the movies so i we have to go"
her " can i come too?"
me " ( a little startled, i did not expect this) sure, why not."
so i tell my little bro to get his as* ready, we were going out .
so here is our first date.

we got to the movies, and she was showing me lots of pics of here that she had taken with her camera phone. i was kinda quiet. she kept doing little things like bumping into me and coming closer. so i picked up on these cues of her trying to kino me. therefore i replied, slight hand touching, closeness and bumping into eachother.

my little bro got hungry so we went to eat something
(i noticed many girls do this) she brought up another guy she was seeing, and blah blah blah tried to make me her girlfriend.
to which i replied with straight face, "let's change subjects"
she smiled at me and gave me eye contact
i asked her how she would describe her personality ( i ask this question when i got nothing to say and i am not really feeling on my game but want her to ramble on and on so she can feel we are atleast having a little convo.

she brought up a question about a sex store she had seen, oooo man it was on!!!
i started going from there, i asked her about her favorite positions, and all kinds of sexual questions.
she was still bumping into me as we walked and our hands brushed against eachother's hands so i grabed her hand and kept walking, but now we were holding hands.

I KNEW I HAD TO KISS HER, BEFORE WE GOT TO THE MOVIES, so it could be at the MIDDLE OF THE DATE (this has worked for me)
i think it is the perfect move to make the kiss happen in the MIDDLE OF THE DATE.
we talked about some lesbians ( cause we saw some guys holding hands and we talked about gay guys ( i quickly changed it to lesbians and her ever trying anything fun with girls) she said no but hey.

i told her you better never dress like a guy because then i would push her away and she would no be able to do this...............(kiss on the lips)
it was a gentle peck but the door was opened now

now it she was more confortable with us huging and kissing and (my advice is just act as if she is your girlfriend not a stranger your trying to game)

we sat at the back of the movie theater and a lot of kissing and holding and stuff like that, the more i touched her the more confortable she was with my touch. she ended up repositioning herself with her head on my lap but i did not move my hand so it ended up being right between her legs (hehehehe)
i started moving it and next thing you know she is closing her eyes, breathing harder, and me rubbing her vulva over her pants.

then we she sat up to watch the movie i rubbed her legs and then, more of the vulva, i new she was h*rny as hell now, she started touching me and playing with my d*ck over my pants and i was playing with her boobs and kissing her. (i will spare you the details )
she ended up whispering to my ear that "i am so h*rny"
"i want to be with you"
"what time is the movie over? as long as you take me home before one, we can..........(gigles,) (playing with my d*ck some more)"
me " well, maybe next time, my little bro is here and he is watching the movie."
but we kept playing with eachother there ( my bro is 13 by the way im 21)

so he got to watch his older bro in action, before we actually got there i gave him a run down on what i was gonna try to do with the girl, then after i explained to him what i did, and why it worked hehehehe he will be a better DJ than me when he is my age.

it was late so i droped her off , and came home to bragg a little but she was eager to see me again, she repeated she would call me later on this week and she made sure i agreed to going out with her on friday, she gave me a bigh kiss good bye.

another great first date!!!!!!!

 

[krasnyiLion]

I'm going to go to the library today and get some approaches done.

 

[MrS]

I didn't see the word "kino" anywhere there.

 

[MrS]

Hahah, after reading some of those stories, a quote from Swingers comes to mind.

"Dude, you're so money and you don't even know it".

 

[Mr Spitfire]

Your first problem is that you dread. If this is true you really need to deal with that.

 

[Mr Spitfire]

Mr S is right about kino but he isnt explaining it.

Once you have a positive rapport with a girl and she obviously has HIL you need to touch her. Touch her how she needs to be touched.

This is the only way you will get sex. PERIOD. If you cant touch her when it doenst matter why would she let you hold her down and destroy her?

 

[krasnyiLion]

how more do i have to touch her if i was rubbing her p*ssy over her pants, and kissing her, licking her ear.

dam!!!!!! if that is not kino i have no clue what is

 

[Mr Spitfire]

my bad, hmmm im gonna take a good look at this, give me a minute.

 

[Mr Spitfire]

I dont know what you want advice on. You are doing fine. You want to know why you didn't lay that mall chick? She wants you to be her boyfriend. Keep doing what you are doing.

You dont even need any advice. Pimp.

 

[krasnyiLion]

8/28/06

So we are moving to a bigger and better place. we went to do the paperwork for the new appartment but apparently we will actually do it on friday, so i went to the bank to deposit some money till then.
as i was in line i was helped by this cute cashier girl

after the standard introduction.

me "are you........19?"
her "oh my god yeah how do you know?"
me " I'm just good" (wink and smile at her)
me " you know your name is spelled wrong"
her " yeah i know, (smiles and gives me eyecontact) then goes on to tell me the story on how it was misspelled and now she uses the misspelled name
(i was giving her eye contact and pretending to listen, i ocationally smiled at her)
me " i know you are mexican, but you look philipino, you probably get this alot"
her " o my god yes (by her body language and she was begining to look interested ) she started talking about where she was from and i mentioned i had traveled there when i was little,
but then she started venting about this guy who had dated a philipino that looked like her and she was mad that he kept pictures of her ex philipino girlfirend, so i started to break my eyecontact and flirty smile
her " well he is my exboyfriend now"
me " o good so you are single"
her " yeah (smiling at me)"
me " i think you are cute"
her " oh thanks"
me " no really i think you are really atractive, give me your phone number"
her " i dont give out my number"
me "oh come on that is a bad excuse ( smiling and giving her eye contact)"
her " ok i tell you what give me yours"
me "nope, here is what we'll do, we will exchange numbers"
she wrote down her number and i gave her mine, she looked Receptive
so i ll call her one of these days.

 

[Distant Light]

This is a good thread, but I want to point out a few things thatI noticed.

- You're basing your cold approaches off of you're identity which is limiting you a whole lot
- Your rushing for the number (Numbers are nothing at all)
- Your not really building attraction so your factoring it off of other things such as you're identity, looks, style, etc. (This is why you got that one girl because she already liked you the attraction was already there so building attraction wasn't needed.)
- When you was on that date you did have bad logistics bringing you're brother :crackup: but now all that horniness, and attraction will die out by time you see her the next time. Once she verbalized that she wanted you to **** her the game wasn't over because you needed a keep that attraction going but its gone now that, that night was over
- Try not to go straight for the numbers because like that girl that traded numbers she is most likely going to flake because there was no attraction and she already tried to flake you so it would be good to try to meet up with her in a place where you would be able to sarge other girls just in case she never shows up.

Mainly just rework your cold approaches because you will keep trying and trying and realizing your not getting much results mainly only getting the girls that were already attracted.

 

[krasnyiLion]

ok Distant Light, so what do you sugest?
what should i be doing?
give me an example of building up attraction?

thanks for the constructive criticism

 

[bingo_]

i'm at the library a fair bit and there's alot of girls here... they're almost always good looking too! i talk to them too.. the librarians mostly. btw. that girl you went to the movies with seems like she only wants one thing. horny lil s|ut.