The darker side of the Selfish Gene theory. Why are we so afraid of a 4-letter word?

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"[M]en with extremely low self-esteem, given continued frustration with women, may eventually resort to rape. There is ongoing debate within evolutionary psychology over whether rape is an adaptation, a designed strategy that any boy might grow up to adopt, given sufficiently discouraging feedback from his social environment. Certainly rape surfaces in a wide variety of cultures, and often under the expected circumstances: when men have had trouble finding attractive women by legitimate means. One (non-Darwinian) study found the typical rapist to possess "deep-seated doubts about his adequacy and competency as a person. He lacks a sense of confidence in himself as a man in both sexual and nonsexual areas." - from "The Mating Mind" by Robert Wright

As humans, we are designed to do two things: survive and reproduce. The despair brought on by lack of success with females may often bring about two options in your typical, mentally-degraded AFC. In one case, he crumbles into psychological and social isolation, becomes depressed, and possibly commits suicide. The other option is to cut losses from one's moral integrity and risk social stigma, and coerce the female into sex.

The latter option is clearly better because, from an evolutionary perspective, it results in both a high probability of carrying on one's genes, and, by way of still being alive, survives. Suicide, however, results in the end of survival and zero possibility of carrying on one's genes.

Having suffered suicidal depression, social isolation, and lack of success with females first hand, this may not be such be a bad idea, rationally-speaking. Maybe, just MAYBE, I'll take a calculated risk instead of wallowing in self-pity, and resort to the latter aforementioned strategy. It is the logical thing to do.

It's f***ed up, I know. But the act has, is, and always will be a natural human-male behavior.

To the 20-something, desperate AFC virgins out there (and I know there are MANY of them lurking/posting on this forum), who's with me?
 

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Females cause themselves to get raped. Why? They like to withhold sex and if she tells it to the wrong guy, she's getting battered!

I know of a case like that here in Georgia. A guy was dikteased by a woman, then the guy broke her neck!

These days, it's like you MUST threaten a woman or beat the f**k out of her to dominate. I tend to be a major a$$hole around women these days when I'm not on the job, and I also have to lie by saying I live in a very wealthy area, and I'm a doctor.

Love is a business to women. It's also a four letter word, spelled C-A-S-H.

A lot of guys are jaded about women these days. I can be too, but women have the power to choose and sex. Men must be muscular millionaires in Maybachs.
 

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I disagree , to me it takes alot more wrong with someone , that just their self confidence , for them to rape someone . there's few things in this world that disgust me more than rapists or child molesters.

you sound like your trying to rationalize something that you have done
 

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OK , after looking at your other posts , you need to not make any actions until you see a therapist or something , giving your previous posts , and your current post subject , you seem like your planning to do something really low, and disgusting .... your trying to rationalize it , and thats the first thing rapist will try to do bro , go get help
 

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cablecow15 said:
I disagree , to me it takes alot more wrong with someone , that just their self confidence , for them to rape someone . there's few things in this world that disgust me more than rapists or child molesters.

you sound like your trying to rationalize something that you have done
I have never committed rape, but am curious as to what others think of the act when seen from a different perspective. That is, is rape really that bad when evidence shows it to be a perfectly-natural human phenomenon? Is it really that bad when it is even perhaps an evolutionary adaptation to allow males of "lesser" qualities to a get a piece of the pie in a highly-competitive sexual market?

As a side note, say a girl dresses in her slvttiest clothes, gets hammered at a frat party, flirts with a guy, willingly goes into a room with him, gives last minute resistance, but the guy sexually-escalates until intercourse despite her "resistance". All of a sudden she screams "rape!" Society, brainwashed by a militantly-feminist agenda, jumps on the side of the girl, of course, and completely ignores the aforementioned male's point of view. But most heterosexual males would likely question how exactly the act when down, and ask "What does the girl expect to happen when she dressed, acted, and behaved like she did (i.e. she went to the party with intent of getting banged that night)?
 

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alcohol situations are never black and white , i understand that , but the other kinds of rapes , i hold no pity for any of them who make it to jail ,

I myself dont find stupidly drunk girls attractive , so ill never be in that situation , but if i were if would behave myself , just because we have instincts does not mean that there accepted in a civilized society

go live with tribes people in the jungle , see how they act if you rape their women . Womens instincs make them more attracted to the cave man type of male , is that i good plan in this day and age ? to marry a convict with the urge to punch strangers in the face ? lol

our animal and people sides conflict alot , it dosnt make it an excuse
 

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I was going to say something but decided the previous posts by cablecow15 will suffice and so I will now exit this thread.
 

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how is this line of thinking helping you better your life or get better with women?
 

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You have disorders preventing you from getting women; therefore, your genes don't deserve to be passed on. It's only logical that you don't attempt to pass on your genes through forceful means, as you would only be diluting the gene pool. Proto-man had no idea how genes worked we, while not perfect, do. So it is up to you to do the right thing: Don't rape a girl.
 

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GreatHornedOwl said:
We have a possible Ted Bundy in the making folks...
After reading your previous posts, it seems as though you may exhibit traits of the Dark Triad: narcissism (the thread about being an attention *****), Machiavellianism (the thread in which you bragged about sleeping with 43 women), and psychopathy (the thread about having no emotion). Apparently, females are instinctively attracted to such traits. I just wish I could possess such traits. Unfortunately, I'm too withdrawn to manifest those qualities externally.

You may be right though. I've had a somewhat obsessive fascination with serial murders over the past, namely Ted Bundy, Seung-Hui Cho, Anders Behring Brevik, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (Columbine Shooters), Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, amongst other various criminals. The latter of those people were influenced by a book called The Collector, in which a guy with poor social skills kidnaps a girl and imprisons her in a remote cabin in the woods, but does not intend to engage in any sexual acts with her whatsoever. For some reason, that book really resonated with me.

I'll be honest, when I used to binge drink and smoke a lot of weed, I would sometimes fantasize about school shootings. Other times, alcohol-fueled anger brought up ideas about burning up parks near my house and becoming an arsonist. The first ideation of arson occurred after smoking a couple joints, having 16 beer, roaming around the framework of some random house under construction at 4 in the morning. I thought about finding a tank of lighter fluid to douse the whole place because it was made of wood and would instantly burn to a crisp, but minutes later decided to smash a car window and stand on the railing of a bridge thinking about suicide instead.

The reason I don't have a girlfriend now is because I know that to gain her trust, I will have to come across as nice and well-socially adjusted. The only way I can do that is if I put on an act. I see young women as sex objects and nothing else. I don't really know what a mature, compassionate, intimate relationship is supposed to be like. I've told my dad that a relationship should involve honesty, trust, and respect, but I possess none of these traits when developing relationships with girls. I'm dishonest, a thief, have shoplifted probably around $1000 worth of merchandise, paranoid about letting a girl know details about my life, and by way of seeing women as objects, obviously have no respect for them. All these young girls I see at the mall and at parties are hoes and slvts to me.

Yeah, I guess I'm fairly screwed up. Months of substance abuse can do that to your brain. I have three cousins right now that I want to fvck, but one has a bf who i'm on pretty good terms with, so i'll just fvck two of them. One is 18 and the other is 16, very hot, and I have made both of them fall in love with me over the past few months. My cousin's friend is also in love with me, but she's a nice girl and every time I've looked at her, she's intimidated by me. She's seen me drunk a lot, and I do belligerent things when I'm drunk. It probably scares her.

I know I've mentioned this before in another thread, but eventually I will do them, when the time is right. If my family finds out, then I'll move. I've been moving from city to city for the past 4 years now. I guess it's a routine that'll eventually become part of me. Just for the record, I'm in therapy right now and on meds. It doesn't really help that much. I don't have the patience to change. Besides, I'd rather burn out than fade away, as Neil Young said. When I die, I'm going to take out a whole bunch of motherf*ckers with me. As said in Fight Club, "I want to destroy something beautiful." But I just haven't figured out what I want to destroy yet. Perhaps I've destroyed myself, and therein lies the paradox that is my life. Help me out here. I'm on a fishing expedition.
 

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Orchard said:
You have disorders preventing you from getting women; therefore, your genes don't deserve to be passed on.
Murders, drug lords, extortionists and rapists have slept with multiple women. Most of them suffer tons of disorders, such as Antisocial Personality Disorder, psychopath, cocaine addiction, etc. If they get a chance at being in the gene pool, why shouldn't I? I don't fall into any of those categories. Plus tons of people suffer depression and anxiety. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to have sex.
 

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You are a sadistic sociopath. Do society a favor and stay away from people altogether.
 

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Dude you need serious help! don't do anything stupid you might later regret.
 

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Attention Seekin' Freak.

Anybody that posts after anything after this just want to keep feeding the hen worms.

Run down your street naked, slap your maths teacher, dye your hair orange... go get your attention thrill elsewhere.
 

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You are an extremely clever man and I admire your writing skills.

You are at a great turning point in your life - you could either turn to the dark side, or find the light. After seeing how intensively you think, and how you understand that essentially the murderers, rapists and other people that you listed are wrong, this gives me the belief that you have inner compassion, and are just frustrated with life....at the moment....

I sense that you have an untapped creative skill. By searching this side of yourself, and moving within the artistic community, who are far more liberal (and sex crazed) you will be able to find a female with the same lust for excitement and perhaps a wandering spirit like you have.

If you slip up, and dare yourself to end the boredom by doing something extreme, your moral conciousness will forever remind you of it, and your agony will be compounded forever....... let me tell you that i've have literally scraped the barrel and skimmed the cream - dont let a short term problem with depression last forever - you'll be alright lad
 

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All I know is that there's less rape here in the netherlands because anyone who's sexually frustrated can simply fvck a wh0re in the Red Light District.

I know how they say rape isn't really sexual, but that it's a "power" issue, but I think that sexual frustration is a large part of it, simply because of the statistics that the RLD causes rape to occur less.
 
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