the dark side of don juaning

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So we're not supposed to settle down. Pook says "the goal is to find a woman that you love and that loves you without either settling." I was dating three girls last month, one was my x gf that cheated on me but i figured, hey we're not supposed to settle anyway so who cares. The other two girls would not have sex with me because I wasnt their boyfriend, even though we acted like it, I told them that "we don't need a label we're just young and having fun." No matter what bs i through at them they wouldn't have sex with me.

My x gf did cheat on me last year, but I don't regret a thing about meeting her or being in a relationship with her. I believe you learn something from every relationship and I learned how to cheat from her. She sleeps around with multiple guys that she picks up. She can get any guy she wants she is literally the female version of what every one of us at this site want to be.

So, in order to have sex with these girls (and to get back at my x gf), I made all 3 of them my girlfriends. Call me a scumbag but I have no sympathy I've been cheated on too many times. Guess what? It worked. So here I am this christmas with 3 girlsfriends, sleeping/getting blown by 3 hot girls on a regular basis, getting and giving christmas gifts to all of them. And none of them knew about the other, I was that good. It felt so good to do what my x gf did to me back to her, and she started going crazy because she knew I was seeing other girls deep down but just didn't want to face it so she acted like everything was okay (even though she did this exact thing to me for 8 months and was still sleeping around when I was doing this to her i have proof).

There are so many girls out there that won't have sex with you unless they're you're girlsfriend. My goals is to sleep with multiple girls. I have come to the conclusion that THIS is the way to do things. What they don't know can't hurt them and I'm making all 3 of their lives better as I am a great bf to all of them. This is honestly so exciting but I know it's "morally" wrong. Maybe that's why I'm making this post. I have such a great life right now though, really does anything else matter?
 

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You have to really "listen" to what you are saying buddy.

"There are so many girls out there that won't have sex with you unless they're you're girlsfriend."

If that were the case I would still be a virgin.

"I have come to the conclusion that THIS is the way to do things."

So what? If I come to the conclusion that the way to change my alternator is to bang a hammer against it, does that mean that my decision was correct?

"What they don't know can't hurt them."

Who says they don't know it? Who says they care?

"I have such a great life right now though, really does anything else matter?"

Of course it does. How old are you? I'm 23, excellent income, got a corporation I own, growing spiritually, mentally, all that...(I'm working on a 6 pack, damn those bottom two are hard as hell though :confused: lol)....no but anyway.

All you need to do is this....learn to be calm, seductive, and sexual. Add this to your personality, you will develop a natural calm, seductive, and sexual tone and outlay. This is all, that a girl really requires of a guy. To be honest with you. All that crap the media feeds to you, about women want this and that....bottom line, all a woman ever wanted from a guy was this. You don't have to be a thug, you don't have to be rich, you don't have to be tough, you don't have to nice, you don't have to do dates, you don't have to meet her family, hell you don't even have to like her or care about her. She just wants a calm, seductive, guy. This turns her on, this makes them wet. This makes them horny like their body makes us horny.

I know this really sounds too simple, too easy. But you just confirmed that your life is pretty good right now, well then just relax, be calm, and just continue being the seductive/sexual guy that you are. Continue to meet different women, and give them good sex. There's nothing more to it buddy. Now, I'll see you later, and no more negative attitudes, no more looking at the world in a bad outlook. This is a great world we live in, and the beer is getting better and better each night. (and oh yeah, the business is getting better too, $$$)
 

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ok thats great ur the man

im 22 i work full time to get myself out of debt, but i love my life right now

im having my cake and eating it too

From studying this site for years, I've learned the first step is to clarify your goal. Either you want an LTR, or you want multiple women.

When you do it my way, you have your cake and eat it too. You have multiple women and multiple LTR's. Imagine the confidence I have when I am with one of these girls knowing that if things don't work out, I have 2 other LTR's going on.

My point is this. If your goal is to sex multiple women, and a perticular woman won't sex u unless shes with u, whatre u supposed to do? next her and say bye cuz ur not ****ing her ? Why not just make her one of ur gf's?
 

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because it's guys like that you scar them, they become emotionally attached only to find out you've been cheating on them since the beginning. how ****ty of you.
 

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Hey Dice, if you want some help in getting that credit paid off pm me, (I got a strategy I used to get my student loans off, and no I won't charge you lol).

Check this out, you said,

"My point is this. If your goal is to sex multiple women, and a perticular woman won't sex u unless shes with u, whatre u supposed to do?"

Laugh.

Like this....

:crackup:

And this....

:crackup:

And continue being the sexual, seductive person that you are. Keep massaging her back, keep the "flow going," you'll start kissing and pretty soon you'll be fvckin.

Hmmm, how can I explain this without making women look bad. Okay, here goes.

Your job is this, be sexual, be seductive, be open, you get that part right? Now, eliminate any and all social conditioning that you have been fed. None of it's true, and none of it applies, it's garbage. I don't care who told you it, eliminate it.

There are no rules. NONE.

When a girl starts "talking" you just "keep going." Most times she'll laugh it off, because what she's really saying to herself (yes, women talk to other people but really talk to themselves), what she's really saying to herself is, "Damn I'm about to fvck this guy, what if he thinks I'm a slvt?" And she starts "saying stuff" but she's really just talking to herself, you just stay seductive, sexual, and keep the flowing going and lead her to sex.

This is a little hard for me to explain, dice, tell me if you are getting what I'm saying or totally lost? The whole "be my boyfriend" stuff is that social conditioning I told you to eliminate, it's not true.

Tell me if you are following me so far.....
 
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Women excuse and legitimize their hor-doms by having the "girlfriend label!!

There are no rules when you pimp hors!! It is the hor who should have guilt for her hordoms and do not blame the man for doing his genetically mandated task of pursuing a woman!! No woman is forced to open her legs - unless she is raped! I really don't understand why men rape women nowadays when they, the women, are opening their legs so easily and voluntarily! I guess they (the man) enjoy the violence and forced action!
 

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Um... how can you figure out what the dark side of 'DJing' is when you clearly (based on the questions you ask and the story you tell) haven't even seen the best of the 'Light side' of the force??

I mean really, if you haven't had the experience of going to a bar and walking out some 20 min later with a chick in your arms coming home with you... well, you'll continue to fall in the AFC label, where you would be viewed as a good provider, the problem is that it costs alot to be a provider, and usually they provide for anothers children... the children of the lovers... those are the guys that get all the sex without the responsibility (shy of catching something fatal, which doesn't matter because the likelyhood of his promiscuous ways would likely have given him several offspring to continue his genes with).
 

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make sure that none of the three girls has any dirt on you. Don't tell any of them any secrets or anything that you don't want others to know.
 

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Dice.. you've had to be dishonest to get some pvssy. A DJ's values are more important than pvssy. So, what are your values?

I'm not here to proselytize.. you get whatever values you choose. Just do yourself a favor, and pick what you can live with.
 

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Been there, Done that. Made a lot of the same mistakes...

My advice to you is, as 'pook' said it: the FOCUS must be on YOU. Now where is your focus?

dice said:
So, in order to have sex with these girls (and to get back at my x gf), I made all 3 of them my girlfriends. Call me a scumbag but I have no sympathy I've been cheated on too many times.
Yes, your EX! The one who cheated on you, remember. I have one simple rule: if she cheats, then she's out. Ofcourse, if she's just a fvck-buddy, then it isn't cheating. But then you shouldn't have been exclusive with her. Now she just made you into a MALE-SLUT...
dice said:
(even though she did this exact thing to me for 8 months and was still sleeping around when I was doing this to her i have proof).
Then again, on who is your focus? Yes you should sleep with those girls, but only if you desire and want to.. not to make someone jealous, or to feel confident. You must be confident without the girls, don't let anything depend on the girl. Not even sexual pleasure, their only control is their pvssy, let her know you can get it somewhere else if you want to.

dice said:
There are so many girls out there that won't have sex with you unless they're you're girlsfriend.
Limitations my friend, read the advice from the other guy about being sexual. That would explain it, them saying they won't have sex with you is only a defense so that you won't call them a slut. Let them know that you're not the kind of guy that tells everyone everything.

Now you also did a lot of good things, but i think your intentions were negative. What you're experiencing is short-term succes, don't let women walk over you!
 

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this is y i called it the dark side of dj'ing

i am a star wars addict so call me a fag all u want but here we go..

anakin knew the dark side was bad but he was drawn to the seductive power of it, more power than he felt as a jedi.

I am not sleeping with these girls to just get back at my x. My focus IS on myself. I do it for myself, because on the "dark side" (making them my gf's) i feel more power than what DJ's are supposed to do (we don't need labels blah blah). Confidence, indifference, and self-esteem that is beyond belief. I have 3 girlfriends, I am living a better life then most.

I think thats what this boils down too.. i want the most out of my life at all costs. Believe me i know from experience, many girls won't sleep with u, or if they do it'll take years, if you give them that I DONT WANT A RELATIONSHIP ****. However, they'll **** you that week if they are your girlfriend. I really wish pook was around for this cuz I'd love to hear what he would have to say on what I am doing. Yes one of the traits of a DJ is to have integrity and be honest, but what if u had every other trait and just sacrificed your integrity for more power then u could ever have.

BTW i give them the option first by saying I dont want a gf, after a few weeks if they dont **** and I get that, "WELL WERE NOT GF AND BF" **** thats when I start using the dark side.
 

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heh gues i scared eveyr1 off w the star wars analogy
 

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Faca said:
Now she just made you into a MALE-SLUT...
There is no such thing. Men are supposed to have sex with multiple women. A male slut is a male.
 

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mrRuckus said:
There is no such thing. Men are supposed to have sex with multiple women. A male slut is a male.
I agree, Men are supposed to have multiple partners. But not in the way that they sacricify their integrity. And this is exactly what he's been doing, but if this works for you then keep doing it.

dice said:
Believe me i know from experience, many girls won't sleep with u, or if they do it'll take years
Now this is exactly what i used to believe, but it's just a limitation in your mind. Yes for some girls it takes a bit longer to have sex with you, but eventually she will sleep with you. I might take 1/2 dates, and for some a bit longer. But my point is that you shouldn't just have a relationship so you can fvck her.

Do you ask to become exclusive with them (or do they ask you for a relationship)?

Now i would never get into a relationship before sex. Then i would just be dating them, the sex should come before the relationship or any commitment. Remember they are the one that want a relationship not us, i see it as a market: We give them a relationship, they give us pvssy.
 

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ya like I said, I keep it unlabeled unless they keep not ****ing and saying IM NOT UR GIRLFRIEND WE SHOULDNT HAVE SEX. So that is when I make them my girlfriend to **** them.
 

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dice said:
ya like I said, I keep it unlabeled unless they keep not ****ing and saying IM NOT UR GIRLFRIEND WE SHOULDNT HAVE SEX. So that is when I make them my girlfriend to **** them.
This is how you give your power to the women! You start a relationship, because of sex. She know this, and will use it to get things her way.

There are a lot of girls that will have sex with you, without committing to them.
 
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