The dangerous side effect of fiction and movies on dating

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Why are guys getting compared by their girlfriends with 'pretty boy' images on TV? Don't they know they're manipulated. Some girls have some seriously delusional world views.

This is a real problem for guys trying to get even a '1' or '2'. There's little to go on.

Another case in point, Beauty and the Beast.
I shouldn't hate on this Disney classic, but I really do.

Why did the beast turn back to a prince in the end? This scene completely contravenes the film’s message.
So it really is….true beauty is on the inside, but fvck that, outer beauty always prevails.
There are some girls who have actually expressed that they wanted that transformation to happen to their boyfriends, as if to say their boyfriends were not perfect enough to begin with. Charming. And these are girls who are living in the real world, where....newsflash.... most guys do not look like models.
WTF? Where I live I barely run into a woman who resembles Sophia Vegara but I recognise the many reasons why I should not expect to: its partly a geographical situation, yes, but also that magazine images are manipulated/Photoshopped and that some women do it to pay the rent or pay the bills or to feed the family, and that looking that good requires hard work and money.

If dating prospects are this bad or have gotten this bad, what is the point of anything in life? I'm currently filling in loads of job application forms with such a heavy heart, wondering...why am I doing this? If I have very little chance of dating because of this horsecrap, really nothing else matters if our life views are so delusional.

What are others' take on it?
 
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The Matrix Recipe:

1/2 cup feminism
1/4 cup beta males
1/4 cup daddy issues

Mix in a glass until increased self entitlement and inflated egos are present. Garnish with whatever dosage of pop-culture bull-sh!t you see fit.

*Note that this 1 cup blend is enough to trick 99% of women in the world.

**Note the only remedy for such a woman is a 1/5 cup semen from an alpha male to her face. Just once will do the trick.
 

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lol... most people in society get/develop their beliefs from what the movies or magazines tell them. it's just how it is really.

I personally shy away from girls like that, they tend to be vapid ****s at heart.
 

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agreed but **** disney movies. the real problem is with soap operas and day time tv. i recall one girl wrote on her fb wall that she wished all men were like the latino men in them soap operas lol wtf?? talk abt delusions. since we're all doing the wishing thing i also wish all women looked like Sophia vegara and Megan good
 

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ezio said:
agreed but **** disney movies. the real problem is with soap operas and day time tv. i recall one girl wrote on her fb wall that she wished all men were like the latino men in them soap operas lol wtf?? talk abt delusions.
Yeah, TV as well. Disney is just the beginning.

Gee, that’s really depressing.

The handsome prince who is probably also a smug, up-himself p**k who belittles every one 'less' than him, won't come for these girls. He's too busy fapping away at the Playboy Lingerie specials.

Okay, perhaps I am generalising, I mean this delusional mentality could be just down to inexperience, age and/or immaturity, but why do my parents act like I am some catch with women? The brutal reality is that I am probably not.

I am probably not the happiest or social person and there's a reason for that:

I hate telling myself that I am worthless, insignificant loser freak (I’ve been called it through years of school and it didn’t stop there even after school) who can't get a girl and will fail in most areas of life, because it brings everyone else down. It is affecting me in work, everyday errands, family socialising and my outlook.

But I’m sorry, I have to make a stand on this one- a real 'catch' is a guy who would have a queue of women to fall back on if he got dumped etc. by one girl. Girls come in at an angle of shallowness which is different and some ways worse than men- they are very sassy and good at backstabbing- not helped by the ‘sugar-coating’ that says that looks don't matter.

At the moment I am surrounded by morons getting all philosophical on me about life as if they have seen it all- there's a difference between life and reality.

Reality is the stuff we have already raised- girls you are into and are age appropriate for you hardly ever compliment your personality rather than looks, and when they do it probably precedes rejection.
 
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man, not this stuff again. quit blaming the media on your own problems. if you act like a man girls will want you. chances are since you are making a thread on a web site whining about how disney has ruined society you arent much of a man.

seriously, what do you guys want? All movies to be completely accurate depictions of love? Theyre stories, you might as well discuss the inaccuracies in Die Hard or Speed 2: Cruise Control.
 

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I'll say it before Jaylan does - women have it way worse in the "unfair portrayal by media" field.

That's just a fact. At least guys can get away with being fat on TV.

No, it doesn't excuse a woman being sh*tty, and it doesn't excuse a woman being crazy.

But hell. Look at a make-up commercial. Or any commercial. It's all whispering "you aren't good enough," constantly. And if you think media doesn't have an effect on how people think, look at Fox News and try to explain why 50 percent of people in red states still think Obama is a Muslim.

Moral of the story - stop whining about it and do something. Not everyone bases all their opinions purely on what they see on TV.

Argue with me on this one. Please. I've been looking for a good fight... haha.
 

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oxford comma said:
man, not this stuff again. quit blaming the media on your own problems. if you act like a man girls will want you. chances are since you are making a thread on a web site whining about how disney has ruined society you arent much of a man.

Thank god someone said it before me.

This is no worse than people talking about how rock n roll was going to destroy teenagers' minds. People are people, and they formulate their own opinions about the world. If you're living your life based on movies, then you're a lunatic.

And like loveshogun said.....If you want to say that TV and movies places unfair expectations upon men, then woman can throw that argument right back in your face. There's no picture of a woman on TV or in a magazine that isn't photoshopped, airbrushed, and altered to improve upon her already-super model genetics.

I'm not trying to defend women here, but this is a weak argument with Grand Canyon-sized holes. You better give this some more thought before taking it to the Supreme Court.
 

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Lol you have a real problem gettin 1's and 2's???

I'm sorry but you not only have no game, you have anti-game. If I shut my mouth and say nothing I can get a 5 or 6 easy...

Anyways sounds like you're in a pretty big rut, so I'd take time off of women, focus on your job applications and focus on having a bit of fun. Obviously a bunch of things are stressing you out and when you think stressed out you don't think optimally or logically. I mean look at yourself, you said nothing else matters in life cause you have a little chance of dating. There is a bigger problem here, and I'd take off girls your to-do list and fix things with a higher priority, once you feel relaxed and well about those things then you can move on to women.
 

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just turn off your tv man and don't by into it.

go out there and find like minded people. i have met a few people who don't watch tv. find them and you should be ok.
 

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oxford comma said:
man, not this stuff again. quit blaming the media on your own problems. if you act like a man girls will want you. chances are since you are making a thread on a web site whining about how disney has ruined society you arent much of a man.
I don't know what to be. I just have a negative outlook on life and it had made me angry. I am getting psychotherapy sessions to deal with this.
 

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Iceberg said:
If you're living your life based on movies, then you're a lunatic.
I have aspergers. I have difficulty understanding women's wants and needs, I'm only trying to make sense of it all by sharing my experiences.
 

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Iceberg said:
If you're living your life based on movies, then you're a lunatic.
I don't want to say this, but my family brought me up to be a nice person. Almost too nice. And it hasn't worked in my favour. Should I change my ways if I am going to succeed with women?
 

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Packers2010 said:
just turn off your tv man and don't by into it.

go out there and find like minded people. i have met a few people who don't watch tv. find them and you should be ok.

i hate people that dont watch tv. they never get my references.
 

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oxford comma said:
i hate people that dont watch tv. they never get my references.
I have no problem with DVDs, though. At least you can pick and choose those. There are people in action movies I see that could go over and sort out the superficial people in chick flicks.
 

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I saw Crazy, Stupid, Love a while ago.

Shit messages like, if you think somebody is your soulmate you'll never give up.

Appologize if you don't fight for somebody you love.

Women don't give a man about that crap.
 

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Dude, I busted out on a rant like this too...bit different reason, but still based on the retarded way women measure attraction...

She Was All About the Sex…

Doesn't matter what Hollywood does though, creating attraction is based on primal human instincts and no amount of fairy tale BS is gonna change that. If a woman is hot for you, she'll change her "type."

The girl I'm with now did, said I completely wasn't her type, now she's crazy about me with her fine ass. Don't sweat what the movies say and how stupid chicks response. Just learn to create attraction and you'll be solid
 

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theanomaly said:
Dude, I busted out on a rant like this too...bit different reason, but still based on the retarded way women measure attraction...

Doesn't matter what Hollywood does though, creating attraction is based on primal human instincts and no amount of fairy tale BS is gonna change that. If a woman is hot for you, she'll change her "type."

The girl I'm with now did, said I completely wasn't her type, now she's crazy about me with her fine ass. Don't sweat what the movies say and how stupid chicks response. Just learn to create attraction and you'll be solid
So you're saying that its possible woman can actually change her type?

I've spent too long self-abusing and getting in a state thinking I would never be anyone's type. My world feels so small, and there's no one I can let in. I have felt so aggressive inside.

I was bullied a lot when I was younger, and I believed the things they told me. Its got to a point where at rejection thoughts of destruction come into my mind. Just hate life.
 
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So you're saying that its possible woman can actually change her type?

I've spent too long self-abusing and getting in a state thinking I would never be anyone's type. My world feels so small, and there's no one I can let in. I have felt so aggressive inside.

I was bullied a lot when I was younger, and I believed the things they told me. Its got to a point where at rejection thoughts of destruction come into my mind. Just hate life.
people dont have "types", in the sense they dont only go after one type of mate. they might think they do until some 5 foot 6 bald guy with hella game bangs them.
 

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If you wanna look good, get your ass to the gym or the plastic surgeon's office! Quit blaming disney for your flaws. You know the reality of women, and that saying "It's the inside that counts" is bullsh*t. Why? Because the outer beauty physically or financially has to be great to even have it considered. Get off your ass, make the money, burn the fat.

Not having these things makes a lot of women around you have boyfriends.

Case dismissed. :rolleyes:
 
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