The CLUB subworld, lets share out experience and info

[Who Dares Win]

I think we should talk much more deeply about the club scene mostly because it have particular rules that not always are the same of the day world.
Im gonna share my experience here and try to put other posts from other users who have been found particularly interesting.

1) It takes much more confidence than your day life, if you are goodlooking enough and not that bad you can still have a chance with girls in universities or parks but at club you have one single shot due to the speed of the socializing and the actors involved (aka your competition).

2)Go for it, taking time or getting a number and planning the future will most likely to fail, beat the iron till its hot because a girl give herself because of her feelings at the moment, waiting days to call her will turn her into a thinking machine that will find many logical reason to avoid you, dont even let me start talking about the "suggestions" from her friends.
So try to get her the same night.

3)The importance of dressing, Im not talking about it because Im not well prepared so hope some other user will.

4)Keep in mind that most of the girls are there looking for attention, stay with their friends or do ego pumping or are simply not available in that time, so if you get rejected its not sure theres something wrong with you, dont let a failure screw your night or let it discourage you.

5)Build rapport for some minutes then try to move the girls to a quieter corner where you can communicate and start touching each other, touching her and see her reaction is the fastest way to see if she is interested or simply looking for attention.
Most of all make sure her friends especially the fat/ugly/envious ones are not close, you cannot imagine how their ego is powerful and how can push them to ****block you to save himself, add this to the sheep mentality of girls and you have the recipe for a fat girl taking away your princess with some lame excuse....she will rationalize as "saving her friend" while in reality she only envy the sausage she was able to get.

6)Dont buy drinks to girls, especially if they approach you asking for it, plenty of svckers who paid a drink just to see her taking it and gather to her friends again, its actually a move girls do to pump their ego or brag with friends.
Some guys here buy drinks but they have good reason to do so, I suggest you to avoid it.

7)Dont bring weights with you, the shy guy or the grumpy guy who will put you in a crappy mental state are as dangerous as her fat/ugly friends.
Same with the uncompetent guy who ****block you while trying to steal the girls you are tring to get, makes pact clear from the beginning or better yet go out with intelligent folks.
Being seeing in a corner with geeky guys automatically make girls thinking you belong to the same cathegory, bad to say but its true.

8)Dont drink too much, some alchool can help to relax but too much makes you smelly and stupid or even worse as happened to me take you down and some other guy will steal the chick for the night, so beware also to the guys or girls pushing you to "drink more" or shaming you if you dont.

9)Approach girls wich give you incentives like coming close to you or that find looking at you often, its not a sure way but its a good beginning.
It doesnt really matter what you say but how you say it, anyway she knows if she likes you in the first minute of interaction based on your look so no need of pickup lines etc.

10)IMPORTANT if your gut let you consider that she is not into you, dont waste anymore time on her, if she doesnt make an effort to fuel the conversation or reply with short words and no enthusiasm is hightly probable she is not into you, save your time,your ego and your mood and leave.
Try touching and see her reaction as a final test, if she moves away you have your answer.

This is what comes in my mind now if anybody else have anything to add feel free.
Now Im gonna share some experiences I had in clubs and talk about what worked and what not.

In this case:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=191073
I made the stupid mistake of getting a facebook instead of the number and worse yet trying to close the deal the same night, as said on point 2, got for it and try to have as much as you can that same night and always escalate.

Here an other example of that with an other big mistake of being to eager to contact her ,in fact I put on the following day the same energy I was supposed to put on that same night when the gates of paradise where open
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=192280

Anyway here a post from an other user that I find as pure gold, read it and read also the rest of that thread
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1898885&postcount=2

I'll be going to club this weekend and try this and more, will report it asap.

 

[In10se]

I'll be 22 on Saturday and have been practicing game in the club scene for the past 6 months...here are some valuable things I've found:

1. I know its not always possible, but if you go out with an attractive girl and are seen dancing/flirting with her, it raises your value through the roof. About a month ago I brought a girl out that I had previously met on line at a different club and other girls were literally pulling at my shirt to get my attention. Girls were approaching my girl asking if we were dating, and I was getting smiles/stares from nearly every attractive girl in the room. Having hot girls in your social circle or chill **** buddies to bring out, are an immeasurable asset.

2. When you get in the club, no matter how much success you had the week before your mind resets itself. There is still the uncomfortable phase where you stand around and scope out potential targets and knock down a beer or two. This is ok, but don't remain stagnant for too long or else you will end up not approaching at all.

3. If you see a really attractive girl, say SOMETHING, anything...even if she acts bratty or shoots you down, you feel good about trying. I know people say this a lot, but our society really has skewed the value systems placed on women. The really hot ones place such high value on themselves, so its important to remember that under the makeup and tight clothing is just an insecure little girl.

4. I have most of my success just walking up confidently, grabbing a girl by the hand who is already dancing...and grinding up on her. Most of the time her friend across from her will give her a look like "he's cute/he's ok" as long as I didn't creepily hover around and then make my move.

5. If you are at least decent at grinding it is possible to make out with girls within minutes or even seconds of interacting with them. I think my physical subcommunications at this point are much stronger than my verbal game, and some nights when I'm just on, I can get make outs without even uttering a word.

 

[Telfon]

You guys got most of what i was going to say. Lemme add a few points. Im turning 22 next month as well and ive been single for 3 months (4 Years in Relationships prior) and ive had 8 hookups in a bar/club setting

1. The thing about bringing a girl to the club, YES.
Especially if they are hot you will be the most desired male in the room when you are seen grinding with other HOT girls. Or even laying down the heavy KINO. On friday i went to the bar with my hot friend from work, she overdressed tremendously, tight skirt, loose blouse, high high heels. She stuck with me the entire night. as we loosened up, we were dancing then grinding then eventually in the middle of the dance floor face to face arms around eachother. I didnt even mean to look behind her but i thought i saw someone i knew, and there was 3-4 girls STARING at me.. 5 minutes later i felt a hand on my back from someone else and it was a random chick that walked past me and gave me the "i want to **** you look".. had i not been interested in my friend from work i would have been drowning in vagina.
-BRING HOT FRIENDS TO FLIRT WITH. IF YOU DONT GET WITH THEM WHO CARES, JUST BE SEEN WITH THEM AND YOU ALREADY HAVE A HEADSUP ON UR COMPETITION.

2.In10se is right, dont hover and creep and overthink about going in on a girl and grinding with her. My rule, which has worked for the most part is the 5 second rule... literally. If you think more then 5 seconds about doing it. Move on. You will be most successful and feel more confident when you spontaneously go for attractive girls without thinking about it, it reduces the feeling if u get denied, and increases the pleasure if she likes you and ends up dancing with you.
-How do you walk up to a girl and grind/dance with her Telf?
Like In10se said, dont hover. Walk up to and confidentally and..
-Grab Her Hand, Raise it a Little bit, She will turn around to see whos doing it, Smile and Say "Hi"
(You dont ask yes or no ended questions if your a DJ Boss.. Its harder for her to reject you, and more likely she will pickup on the aura of confidence oozing from you)
-If your feeling EXTREMELY bold, you go in from the front.
Lets say theres a group of 3-4.. and two of them have their backs turned to you, and you have your eye on the cutey facing you on the OTHER side of the group. Use the five second rule, or else your going to over think it. Make sure you POLITELY excuse yourself through the group, slight Kino like a nice hand on the lower back to move them out the way, and you home in on your target. Smile at her, Grab her hand and spin her around.
Or, Say "Hi" then you grab her hand and spin her around.. Super Effective if you smell good. She wont have time to think to reject you, and she WILL have time to think about how much balls you have going through her friends, whom you could have danced with, and will be turned on by such a display of confidence.

3. Dress and smell not good, AMAZING.
No homo but dudes that dress in colors, (no black or white V-Necks, kill yourself if you wear that), get more attention from girls. If you differentiate yourself from the rest of the dudes surrounding you, Your stock goes up, and you are much more memorable. Being Memorable is good especially if you are planning to cop digits and hit this girl up within the next 24-36 hrs.. any number not contacted after that time frame can be deleted, cause you ****ed up pu55y. Dress in nice colors, nice fitting clothes, nothing baggy, and smell good with your favorite cologne.(you have one right?)

 

[exile663dfx]

What to do at a club: Stop being a bltch and do what you want :cheer:

 

[Chamber36]

^^^^^^What he said!

It's important to be outcome independent and self-amused.
Best thing really is to be on cloud 9.

When a girl qualifies you or qualifies herself to you, you qualify her some more and escalate.

 

[Iceberg]

^^^^^^What he said!

It's important to be outcome independent and self-amused.
Best thing really is to be on cloud 9.

When a girl qualifies you or qualifies herself to you, you qualify her some more and escalate.

There's truth in this.

You're in control of the outcome when your mindset is, "I'm going to go out and have fun tonight."

When your mindset is, "I'm going to go out and get laid." you're leaving things up to the girls.

Besides, when you're the guy laughing, smiling, and socializing with everyone around you, the girls will flock to you anyway.

 

[r0cky]

Remember that having fun is not just talking to hot girls. It means talking to everybody that you can. Including ugly girls and guys. I know you don't wanna bang them, but you're there to have fun right? Your answer should be yes. If your answer is "to get laid", you will be less likely to get laid.