the bonus effect of looks

[Interceptor]

I don't think one of the main points is getting across here, guys.

Looks or NO Looks, you must be approachable.

If a chick wants you sexually, or for an LTR she wants to know you're not some Jeckyll and Hyde Monster.

Looks or no looks....the answer is YOU.

Are you confident?
Are you masculine enough?
Are you a Leader?
Do you have sexual confidence and experience?
Do you have plenty of experience with women?
Do you know how to have fun?
Do you understand her Woman-ese?
Can you really connect withe her, and build comfort and trust there?
Are you really, be honest here, but are you REALLY a "Man of Action?"

Guys, being good looking is not a Negative, liability, or hinddrance.

Only your atitude towards yourself, and your mistaken perceptions of the dynamics between you and a woman!

Get that experience.
Live that life YOU want.
Live up to your own standards, Goddamnit, not someone else's.
Be the BEST SELF you can be.
And don't 'settle'.
IF you feel you're "not worthy", then in order be happy, you must recognize and realize your value, worth, and your wealth.

What do you want from a woman?

OK, then......can you give HER the same thing and more???


Think about this.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I don't think one of the main points is getting across here, guys.

Looks or NO Looks, you must be approachable.....

But that would mean that you would need a personality. A lot of guys believe that you can get by on just looks, they don't have either so they use looks as the scapegoat since they can't control their looks.

 

[Interceptor]

Hmmm...
You're right, Frankie.
I guess I just wasn't taking in the fact that many guys are KDJs and a whole lot of them are not "into" Self Improvement.
Pretty dismal if you ask me.
Sh*t, I totally took that for granted.

Well, guys....
If you really want the "dream life", guess what?
You've got to work for it.

And yes, that means as Frank said, you have to have or develop a Personality.

 

[bigjohnson]

.... chicks I don't know are really catty with me, and make a big show of not looking in my direction. Trust me, good looks can hurt you.

I suspect it has nothing to do with your looks, that likely you are an average looking guy who has personality issues. Sometimes the right answers are the simplest.

 

[bigjohnson]

Unless of course you consider a low self-esteem and no confidence a personality issue.

What else would they be?

 

[bigjohnson]

Ok, you got me there. However, I don't talk to girls so they don't get to see my personality anyhow. But I get along with everybody anyway, so that isn't the issue either. You said it yourself: occam's razor. Looks don't matter. :yawn:

Salmon are fish, therefore all fish are Salmon. Your logic is very broken.

 

[magicman]

I believe looks do count to a degree. Anyone who says that they have NO significance is kidding themselves in my own opinion.

I think looks are over rated though.

 

[arqz4]

Looks is an interesting subject... but in this we need to be objective
is something you can change? i would say hardly... you can improve ur body at some degree, get a tan or whatever.. and probally you'll look slightly better... but you guys forgot about one side of the coin... girls also associate handsomeness with STYLE, and STYLE steams from your personality (reflected by how you act, dress and etc), its a reflection of all your beliefs in life..

have you ever met someone that for some f*** up reason, 6 months after, seemed more attractive to you? thats her inner beaulty working, we could say..

honestly? this subject is something that's not worth discussing... i'm pretty average (if i look at a picture of a male model and myself), but some said i was a 10, and other few clearly thought a was a 2... this is one of those things that for 95% of man, b****ing about is not worth it... of course there is those 2,5% who are perfect reproductions of the diserable traits seen in magazines, and the rest 2,5% are plain bizarre.

Work in what you can chance... your views of life, of woman... if you work on your looks, know that improving (getting bigger, etc) that area has such a low effect, considering all variables, that it will become a BONUS in the eye of woman only when you have all the other sh*t together...

 

[handle]

I see looks as a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.

It doesn't matter. You can't buy a second body. Sure, wash and groom and work out. Definately do that. But don't focus on things you can't do anything about.

 

[sexybeast]

Good aesthetics = Higher value

This is because there is a greater chance of you being pre-selected by other girls solely based on your looks.

This is fact.


Benifits

• Get more attention from girls
• Create attraction faster in girls you approach
• Improve confidence and self-esteem.
• Improve general health
• Move faster on Day2’s – a girl will want to get you into bed.
• Easier game – she will be more attracted to you and therefore let you make a few more mistakes than if you were a fat mess where she would be looking to blow you out at the first available opportunity.
• It will make it harder for girls to resist you in bed – some of you may call this a reduction in LMR.
• You will be better in bed. You will be able to go for longer. You will be able to support your and her body weight in different positions.
BG.

 

[sexybeast]

If you believe that you need to look a certain way to get the girls you want, why not just delete your account and never return?

You dont need to look a certain way to get girls, but EVERY guy on hear should work on looking there best because it makes gaming easier for yourself. plain and simple.

The more peices you possess the more attractive you are and the easier it is to get girls. Looking good is one part of it, being healthy is another, being confident is another, having a social circle is another. If you have lots of game but don't look amazing and then you work on your aesthetic you will see a big change in your game.

Get as many peices as possible. That is the art to Game, and something we should all be acheiving.Make the game easier for yourself.

Be the best you can be, why be anything less?

 

[bigjohnson]

you believe that you need to look a certain way to get the girls you want

I can't decide if this is a false dicotomy (or bifurcation) or a badly done strawman argument. "If not this then this" or "What you're saying is" - either is a logical error - you need to polish those logic skills.

 

[Alphamale1821]

Heres the breakdown of it all
Guy with looks and good game = very high success rate
Guys without looks but game = good success rate
Guy with looks no game = gets laid if he's lucky(drunken chicks maybe)
guy with no looks no game = shiit out of luck.

It's not a very hard concept to grasp then again the majority of fools around here don't understand shiit anyway.

 

[bigjohnson]

More to the point, almost nothing is black-and-white all-or-nothing. For all practical purposes no real guy has zero game, no real person is absolutely hideous, no real person is so handsome chicks swoon (except maybe me, lol) and so forth. Good looks is an edge, more is better. Money is an edge, more is better. Game is an edge, more is better.

Be all you can, improve what you can, deal with the rest.

 

[bigjohnson]

... guy said that it's impossible to pick up a girl that's out of your looks league.

The text you responded to said a "loser" can't expect to spout a canned line and go home with Rachel McAdams. I concur. Perhaps you should write what you mean? Hahahaha.

EDIT: Let me break it down for you ...

So you're equating "seduction techniques" with a "pickup line"?

This is you setting up a strawman.

If you believe that you need to look a certain way to get the girls you want, ....

This is either another strawman or bifurcation, I can't decide.

 

[Interceptor]

Hey, I've got a question...

Do looks matter???











:crackup:

 

[bigjohnson]

Dude ....

Oh, poor you. If you are arguing his point you won't need to "restate it in your own words", period. When you redefine what he said then argue THAT it's a common childhood logical fallacy known as "constructing a strawman argument".

If you don't like me pointing it out stop doing it.

 

[Serialized3]

I didnt think this post could get any stupider than the original post, but I was wrong.

 

[Nighthawk]

Deus, I've said this before and I'll say it again. You are not good-looking enough for looks to do all the work for you. You are just above average. You have no balls, so women aren't interested. You are wrong to conclude looks don't make things easier. The evidence is everywhere.

 

[bigjohnson]

Correct. However, I didn't ....

Yes, you restated it in your own words. If you really want to argue what he says you don't need to do this, if you need to do this you aren't arguing against his points, you're essentially arguing with yourself and pretending to refute his point.

All you need to do if you want to argue his point is to quote what he said and reason on why he's wrong.