the best pick up i ever did, day cold approach

[pete101]

i went into an organic supermarket over the weekend and started talking to a HB who had a ring on her left hand.. i opened as i normally do i soon realized that we had natural chemistry and a connection, i think she's attracted to intelligent guys who know a lot about things. she asked me what i did the the usual back and forth, then i kino'd a bit and touched her left hand and said 'so are you going to disappoint me and tell me this ring means you're married?' she goes 'no..engaged'.. i go 'all the good ones are usually taken..' then she says 'but we broke up..i just..wear the ring' i go 'it must be my lucky day then' she laughed and gave the digits willingly even her foreign number in case the local number she just bought was not working. she's only here for a week visiting friends, but i think she said she comes back every 2 weeks so not a big deal if i dont see her this time round.

i got the number and got out of there. i was already a bit fishy that if she has an engagement ring why is she still wearing it.. meaning she was afraid to lose me as she felt a connection that she said whatever to make sure she didn't lose me forever.. all good signs.

fast forward to today i text her to suggest to go for a drink in the next couple days, offering tomororw or tues at 8. she tells me she cant do tomorrow but could do wednesday but will let me know tomorrow and if that's ok? i haven't replied yet, i was going to do the usual line that i see on here when someone will ';let you know' of 'it's ok we'll choose a time when you're more sure of your schedule ' she took about 30 mins to reply to me and i haven't replied yet, it's been about an hour now.. how long should i make her wait as im starting to understand that anxiety and insecurity waiting for a reply works in my favor if i do it right and not too long? also you dont want to be too available or too eager.. make them sweat a bit. the down side is if you like a swift response women usually mimic your behaviour so if i wait 3 hours she'll prob wait 3 hours too before replying.

is what i wrote sufficient? how long should i make her sweat before i reply? it leaves the ball in her court essentially as im basically saying i won't accept a 'i'll let you know' answer without looking butt hurt. tbh she's here to visit friends not spend her evenings with guys.. yes maybe she's really into me but surely if she was she'd agree? i imagine if she's only here for a few more days her evenings are reserved for dinner with friends.. that's usually what it's like here so i perfectly understand why she can't give me a straight yes/no yet as day by day a different offer comes along as in dinner with friends (most people work so can only meet in the evening)

what would be the best course of action now?

 

[pyros]

I have to say that your posts make me grind.

You started very well opening that woman etc. You think the conversation went fine..and so on, she gave you her number...ok.

Now, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA UNDERSTAND that when a woman says something among the lines: 'I'll let you know' SHE IS NOT FVUCKING INTERESTED??

Besides, she's visiting some family/friends, so she doesnt even live close to you...

In short: you did the first part good, now you're screwing it up. She is not interested + she doesnt even live nearby + you're overthinking + you're too needy + you dont understand that out of 10 good interactions with women, just 1 or 2 end up well, ie, you bang the woman. It's tedious, boring, repetitive, but it is how it is.

 

[pete101]

on reflection i should have added more to the response.. her last line was 'is that ok with you?' and mine was 'it's ok we'll choose a time when you're more sure of your schedule '

that essentially agrees to let her let me know which is not what i wanted im showing im too available to her.. i should have said 'no i'll have plans already by then, it's ok we'll choose a time when you're more sure of your schedule '

nip it in the bud and leave it. now i've come across as too available to her. she may let me know but prob that she can't. balls in her court. i should have responded better. still learning.

 

[Tictac]

Best pick up?

You talked to woman and haven't been out with her.

You talk and think too much and do too little - all strategy, no tactics.

 

[Skyline]

This is why you call her and get passed all of this "waiting."

 

[ARrocket]

Update?

 

[pete101]

yep well she's attention wh0ring. i text her on thursday asking when she is leaving and when she'll be back?

she doens't reply but calls me 2 hours later, i didn't see the call i was at the gym, called her back about an hour later no answer.

next day she calls me again around lunch i dont answer then call back a min later, she apologises for the call response blah blah.. my thinking is why the f are you calling me answer my question anyway i ask the question again, she says mon tues next week as she has to see friends this weekend, i immediately retort that's fine as im busy the next few days too and i'll let her know sun maybe mon morning (playing her own game) yes i know she's not interested so im not gona waste any more time on her she just playing attentiosn seeking games.

i text her last night to say to get together mon tues night and it prob will be the last chance she gets to see me before she leaves and wouldn't want her to miss out.

she text me today to tell me she has a dance class tonight till 10pm and tomorrow at 7pm and is that ok?

im thinking wtf is ok. i want to know when we're meeting not when your dance class is.

would i have been better to have just ignored her and not responded?

my first reaction is to always be direct i sent back 'what is ok? i need to know what time we're meeting not when your dance class is '

in these scenarios is it just best to ignore them because you're just giving away attention? and she's just seeking validation.

i have to reign in my need to respond when silence some times is better.

i know she's not interested but what the hell is with her 'is that ok?' questions does this translate to are you still into me and will bend over backwards to accommodate me? they always answer the questions indirectly or dont answer them at all and maybe my mistake is to be direct almost like tryna get a spoilt child to answer directly.

maybe going silent would be a better tact showing i'm not interested anymore - for future reference anwyay. im not wasting anymore energy on her.. she's had her 2 strikes and choosing a dance class over me is not good enough, maybe i should have said that.

 

[LMFAO]

I didn't really get her last text, she was telling you she has dance class tonight and tomorrow night? Or was she proposing tomorrow night for the date?

If it's a second clear flake that equals a number deletion.

You really should have called her to set the date instead of continuing with these fvcking texts. That said she would have most likely flaked anyway and just wants some validation outside of getting fvcked by her fiance. She clearly is still with him, but all she told you upon meeting her (in w0manese) is that she still considers herself a single woman.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

i went into an organic supermarket over the weekend and started talking to a HB who had a ring on her left hand.. i opened as i normally do i soon realized that we had natural chemistry and a connection,

Overexcited ...

No it is not best pickup ever you did because you didnt fvuck her and most probably never will.

It's all in your head.Go to fridge.Take cold beer.Chill the fvck out.

 

[pete101]

I didn't really get her last text, she was telling you she has dance class tonight and tomorrow night? Or was she proposing tomorrow night for the date?

If it's a second clear flake that equals a number deletion.

You really should have called her to set the date instead of continuing with these fvcking texts. That said she would have most likely flaked anyway and just wants some validation outside of getting fvcked by her fiance. She clearly is still with him, but all she told you upon meeting her (in w0manese) is that she still considers herself a single woman.

yeah i dont know what the f she is on about, i shouldn't have replied.. if she eventualy does i wont meet her she'll just flake anyway i'll blame her choosing dance class over a wonderful date with me that's insulting and low IL.

if i agree to a time then she'll most likely cancel given all this attention seeking BS, i'm just playing her silly game. ignore time.

 

[El Payaso]

Best pickup? You must be deluded or something. You already handed your balls on a silver platter by commenting about how "the best ones are already taken". That's just cringeworthy. Let's not forget the fact that you haven't even gone out with her yet. This woman is just using you for validation and toying with you.

 

[pete101]

Best pickup? You must be deluded or something. You already handed your balls on a silver platter by commenting about how "the best ones are already taken". That's just cringeworthy. Let's not forget the fact that you haven't even gone out with her yet. This woman is just using you for validation and toying with you.

yes im aware of that now but i wrote this original post before the aftermath ensued.. it was the best pickup i did in regards to being confident, flowing right leaving at the right time right balance of kino negging push pull etc.. unfortunately she was an attention wh0re but i have to take positives from fact that for once i managed to piece it all together and not leave it thinking 'oh i should have done this or that' i just need to repeat what i did several times with different girls i approach now.