The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene

[Chamber36]

I just started reading The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. It may be all the information you need to be an efficient seducer. The author writes about the different seductive styles of figures throughout history. The greek Sirens, Cleopatra, Casanova, all sorts of people.

Since it is winter after all we should spread the info about good books.

Here's what he writes in the index about chapter 5 - Creating a Need:
"A perfectly satisfied person cannot be seduced. Tension and disharmony must be instilled in your targets' minds. Stir within them feelings of discontent, an unhappiness with their circumstances and with themselves. The feelings of inadequacy that you create will give you space to insinuate yourself to make them see you as the answer to their problems. Pain and anxiety are the proper precursors to pleasure. Learn to manufacture the need that you can fill."

He mentions early in the book that womens' weakness is words, as mens' weakness is beauty.

This is just scratching the surface. The book is full of heavy stuff which I can't really put down, I just wanted to inform the forums about it, and bring it to anyone's attention, who's interested. I'm surprised I don't see it mentioned more often. This is better than the DJB imho.

 

[PapiChulo]

That's good stuff. I am wondering what he means by "words".

 

[SamTheHobit]

I have the ebook, i've been meaning to give it a read.

 

[PapiChulo]

I ve just looked at it and it seems to be a pretty thick book, 400+ pages

 

[Atom Smasher]

That's good stuff. I am wondering what he means by "words".

Women are intrigued and sexually stimulated by words (thoughts and ideas), just as men are intrigued and stimulated by physical beauty.

That's why "game" can overcome so-so looks with men.

 

[Jariel]

Women are intrigued and sexually stimulated by words (thoughts and ideas), just as men are intrigued and stimulated by physical beauty.

That's why "game" can overcome so-so looks with men.

This is absolutely true and one of the reasons I advocate texting during the seduction process...and more to the point, sexual texting and phone sex, as a means of building the tension.

 

[Deep Dish]

An excerpt:

10: Use the Demonic Power of Words to Sow Confusion
It is hard to make people listen; they are consumed with their own thoughts and desires, and have little time for yours. The trick to making them listen is to say what they want to hear, to fill their ears with whatever is pleasant to them. This is the essence of seductive language. Inflame people's emotions with loaded phrases, flatter them, comfort their insecurities, envelop them in fantasies, sweet words, and promises, and not only will they listen to you, they will lose their will to resist you. Keep your language vague, letting them read into it what they want. Use writing to stir up fantasies and to create an idealized portrait of yourself.

The key to seductive language is not the words you utter, or your seductive tone of voice; it is a radical shift in perspective and habit. You have to stop saying the first thing that comes to your mind—you have to control the urge to prattle and vent your opinions. The key is to see words as a tool not for communicating true thoughts and feelings but for confusing, delighting, and intoxicating.

The difference between normal language and seductive language is like the difference between noise and music. Noise is a constant in modern life, something irritating we tune out if we can. Our normal language is like noise—people may half-listen to us as we go on about ourselves, but just as often their thoughts are a million miles away. Every now and then their ears prick up when something we say touches on them, but this lasts only until we return to yet another story about ourselves. As early as childhood we learn to tune out this kind of noise (particularly when it comes from our parents).

Music, on the other hand, is seductive, and gets under our skin. It is intended for pleasure. A melody or rhythm stays in our blood for days after we have heard it, altering our moods and emotions, relaxing or exciting us. To make music instead of noise, you must say things that please—things that relate to people's lives, that touch their vanity. If they have many problems, you can produce the same effect by distracting them, focusing their attention away from themselves by saying things that are witty and entertaining, or that make the future seem bright and hopeful. Promises and flattery are music to anyone's ears. This is language designed to move people and lower their resistance. It is language designed for them, not directed at them.

 

[roman81]

I have the ebook, i've been meaning to give it a read.

is it downloadable for free?

 

[SamTheHobit]

is it downloadable for free?

piratebay.com

 

[Viagra4Soul]

It's heavy going - like the 'Atlas Shrugged' of the ancient dating game IMO.

All of it is covered in any game theory you may have recently read, but far shorter, and in a more modern context in those.

 

[jafyk]

I have an audio version. If you want it. I probably could e-mail it to you.

 

[roman81]

I have an audio version. If you want it. I probably could e-mail it to you.

Dude that would be awesome and greatly appreciated.

 

[Jariel]

It's heavy going - like the 'Atlas Shrugged' of the ancient dating game IMO.

All of it is covered in any game theory you may have recently read, but far shorter, and in a more modern context in those.

I've read a lot of these kinds of books and I agree. I often find they're longwinded with lots of superfluous padding, written in the passive tense and fairly academic, referring to historical examples or behavioural patterns among animals.

Knowing the mating ritual of antelopes doesn't really help me understand hot and cold behaviour, and knowing how Casanova courted fair maidens, doesn't apply to modern society of feminism, texting, clubbing or online attention wh0res.

I am generalising here and although these books definitely have merit and some exerpts will really jump out, I've always found posts on a board such as this way more useful and direct, witht he added bonus of being written from first hand experience.

 

[Sofomore]

I have an audio version. If you want it. I probably could e-mail it to you.

Please do the same for me. I will send you a pm.

 

[SamTheHobit]

I've read a lot of these kinds of books and I agree. I often find they're longwinded with lots of superfluous padding, written in the passive tense and fairly academic, referring to historical examples or behavioural patterns among animals.

Knowing the mating ritual of antelopes doesn't really help me understand hot and cold behaviour, and knowing how Casanova courted fair maidens, doesn't apply to modern society of feminism, texting, clubbing or online attention wh0res.

I am generalising here and although these books definitely have merit and some exerpts will really jump out, I've always found posts on a board such as this way more useful and direct, witht he added bonus of being written from first hand experience.

100% agree.