The Alpha doesn't always win The girl (A Backbreaker type Post)

[Solomon]

So last night I was at a popular bar in my city having some food and drinks with a female associate talking business (There is no such thing as female friends in the words of Burroughs that's for faggots). It doesn't matter what time of the year it is, this bar always has top tier caliber women in terms of looks who come through. There were several girls there who I gladly woulda introduced to my ding dong. However I noticed two girls at the bar and they were dressed like this

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I mean they had shirts showing of their brah's and all that. I knew right away these girls where looking to get picked up and where DTF. I mean it's 26 degree's on a Thursday their not dressed like that just to have a drink :crackup: . The bar wasn't all that busy that night but there a couple guys approaching. One guy(Aziz) literally approached the whole bar (it wasn't anything but 10 chicks there) but I will get back to him in a bit.

There is a guy let's call him Ryan P for story purposes. Ryan P is very well known in the nightlife circles in the city. The guy is loaded and has probably banged more hot chicks then he remembers. Ryan P is a local celebrity you could say. Anyway he see's me chilling with my associate and says hi (talk about ultimate social proof for me)

Him: dude you look familiar he asked
Me: Ha yeah we met at the W not long ago, how is the night treating you?
him: Great man, I can't wait till my new apartment complex opens up (gotta love the DHV he threw in there )
Me: Wait that's you? near Lake street and Hennepin?

He smiles at me and tighten up his tie.
There is a new apartment complex being build in a premier location in the city that has everyone buzzing.

me: dude that's a real good spot you're gonna get tons of sloots there
We joke about banging females, right in front of my associate.....:crackup:
Him: anyway man I gotta get going and handle business

He says looking at the two chicks him and his wingman get the macking.

Throughout the whole night I would engage my associate in some witty banter in between "Business" talks. I also had a premier spot so I could literally see the whole bar, the chicks, etc.

--4 Gorgeous Black women to the side of me
--2 Gorgeous blonds at 1 O clock who kept flirting with the barback
--The two chicks at 11 O clock talking to Ryan P and his wing

There was another guy who was approaching chicks as well. He wasn't doing as well but I admired his persistence because I know how hard it is to approach random sloots. He approached the 4 set that was sitting next to me by himself. Anyone who has approached a multiple set knows that it's hard as hell because it's soooooooooooooooooo easy to get blown out. There were 4 gorgeous black women, one kind of looked like Jada Pinkett Smith and she seemed annoyed when the guy sat down. The guy let's call him Aziz, was getting blown out but he didn't let that deter him from approaching. The problem is he approached the whole bar in an hour and when it's a slow night girls do notice. Later on I noticed Aziz friend walking in the bar

So back to Ryan P and his chick. I noticed that Ryan P was buying the girls shots *face Palm*. 20 minutes later he looked like he was blitzed out of his mind, like he literally shut down. There comes a point where drinking alcohol has diminishing law of return effect. You can drink to loosen up be more confident etc but if you drink to much it fuccs up your game. Ryan P's chick was dancing on him twerking and he was just sitting there like a chode ignoring her. I mean it was obvious he was so drunk he couldn't even function. His girl starting flirting with another guy.

Me: He's getting Cblocked by the guy and is losing the chick
Female Associate: Yeah he's to drunk and now she is turned off

Aziz sat down and started hitting on the female wingchick and had a friend with him. Ryan P's girl started chatting with Aziz and the friend. By this point it's obvious Ryan P was sloppy drunk he would try to touch the chick's ass but came of looking weak. He eventually walked away. The new guy she was talking to was laid back and making great eye contact.

" Damn Ryan had it in the bag and now he's princess is in another castle"I thought

At this point my associate and I decided to head home. Lo and Behold The chick that Ryan P was macking on was leaving with Aziz and the friend. She was holding the friends hand and I could hear her say

"I need to be at work by 9, so we need to make sure were up by then"

friend: No problem

The guy musta spoken to her for 15 minutes tops and he was already taking her home. Whilst Ryan spend the whole night tricking off and buying drinks and got her hot just for the other guy to swoop her

Whats my point with this long ass story?

Not everything is black and white. According to SS logic Ryan shoulda got the girl cause he was the "local celebrity" with "Alpha Status" but instead the other guy took her home.

In the end Ryan P's wealth didn't mean ****, you can have money but if you don't have game you still ain't getting ass unless you buy escorts :crackup:

 

[Darth_Qurashi]

Haha that's awesome man, that guy has some persistence.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Just goes to show ya that looks, fame, and fortune are only enhancers to what really matters - inner game and creating attraction. He proved that the only thing he had to offer was supplication through buying her shots and boring talk of wealth which resulted in her interest falling through the floor. Maybe you should charge this guy a good sum to teach him the ropes brah

BTW - Thanks for the shout out on your signature

 

[PlayHer Man]

I like this story because its a good opportunity to shed some perspective on the topic of "alphas" and "who gets the girl".

Here are the main points I want to make that your typical man might miss:

1. Betas get hot girls all the time. There are loads of betas in relationships with smokin' hot women. HOWEVER.. those men are usually whipped faggots, not spinning plates and most likely completely controlled and exploited by the woman. Good times.

2. Alpha is a state of mind. Its not being rich, being good looking or being famous. Hollywood is loaded with beta fags who get financially raped in divorce after wifing up a gold digging skank. Good times.

3. Who gives a sh!t if Ryan P's slut jumps on another d!ck? He will have another slut by tomorrow. If he has any brains.. he spins plates and probably doesn't give a sh!t about that girl. If he wanted to get drunk.. that's his business. Who cares how the woman reacts to it?

4. Aziz's friend will be one of many men on the c0ck carosel. No big deal. She will jump on another c0ck next week.

5. Girls are for f*cking not "winning".

Just some perspective.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Moral of the story:

- Don't be a sloppy drunk like Ryan
- Don't be the guy who approaches the entire bar and gets shut down by every chick like Aziz
- Don't be a wallflower who doesn't hit on any girls like Solomon
- Be like Aziz's friend: walk in confidently, quickly zero in on your target, leave with her 15 minutes later

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Game > ALL

 

[thatfeel]

Wtf, this story is retarded, it has nothing to do with SS or game or anything, clearly the guy got completely trashed, and that's the only reason no one went home with him. End of story. It would be no different if Ryan Pansy ass was a big AFC.

The whole thread could be summed in "A local alpha got so sh1t faced he couldn't even see, and ended up with a dry d1ck that night." Wow, big surprise.

 

[HyperAnalyze]

So did you bang the business associate? lol

 

[Solomon]

mmmh

Don't be a wallflower who doesn't hit on any girls like Solomon

You obviously lack reading comprehension or ignored the part where I clearly stated several times that I was at the venue with a female associate.....nice try Keyboard Jockey try again :crackup:

Wtf, this story is retarded, it has nothing to do with SS or game or anything, clearly the guy got completely trashed, and that's the only reason no one went home with him. End of story. It would be no different if Ryan Pansy ass was a big AFC.

The whole thread could be summed in "A local alpha got so sh1t faced he couldn't even see, and ended up with a dry d1ck that night." Wow, big surprise.

The story has everything to do with game, the guy was buying the chicks drinks and supplicating. You're right in a sense that if he was AFC or whatever it's irrelevant. But the guy is known in the town as a big shot who picks women up on his status and $$$. More proof that those alone won't get you laid but that game is an important catalyst. In this situation had he stayed more sober, he woulda lead the girl to his place and not ****blocced himself

So did you bang the business associate? lol

 

[user name]

Moral of the story:

- Don't be a sloppy drunk like Ryan
- Don't be the guy who approaches the entire bar and gets shut down by every chick like Aziz
- Don't be a wallflower who doesn't hit on any girls like Solomon
- Be like Aziz's friend: walk in confidently, quickly zero in on your target, leave with her 15 minutes later

In my more afc days this was the only way i ended up with women in my bed.

 

[apprenticedj]

Thanks for posting this Solomon. It reinforces a few things to me:

1. Never be sloppy, ever.

Ryan P's social status and $$$ still didn't matter, his slopiness turned the chicks off. I'm picturing him feebly trying to grab at that chicks ass, I would've busted up!

2. The game is about a totality of factors, you cannot rely on any one facet or it will become a crutch. Sure you can have high social proof and lots of dough (Like Ryan P.) but if you can't maintain and entice women with some conversation you're not going to be successful. At least not on the DJ level we're all trying to achieve here.

Good post bro

 

[BraddH]

An alpha never wins anything, because winning means that there is a prize to get.

He enjoys himself and if the woman wants him, then great. No big deal. Nothin more than that.

 

[user name]

How do we know what Ryan did or didn't achieve that night?

Did we follow Ryan home that night?

Just saying.

 

[ArcBound]

Yep persistence sometimes beats all else. And of course being unable to function normally tends to hinder your game.

But Solomon, if what you say is true in that this guy fvcked more girls than he can remember, is rich, and well known in all the nightlife circles, as you say, why would he care if he lost one chick?

 

[backbreaker]

Thanks for the shout out Solomon but with that said, I question the premise of this guy being an alpha male in the firs tplace. A guy who has to trick off drinks and gets sloppy drunk, I don't consider to be an alpha male whatsoever.

It's like the poor crackhead and the rich crackhead. The fact that the rich crackhead can afford to buy more crack, doesn't mean he still is not controlled by it. He just has more access to it.

Your boy ryan is still controlled by the *****. he tricks for it, he flashes for it. He has to show boat and get drunk for it. how is that alpha male behavior.

I'm ont saying youc an't have a nice car, nice crib, **** i have both, and not ben an alpha male. I'm saying sleeping with broads, driving nice cars, on their own merits, don't't make a man a leader of men.


I would reclassify the guy as "a dude who hooks up with hot girls all the time"

 

[Bokanovsky]

In my more afc days this was the only way i ended up with women in my bed.

What's the point of having a woman in your bed if you're too drunk to f*ck her?

 

[user name]

What's the point of having a woman in your bed if you're too drunk to f*ck her?

I never really had a problem getting it up when drunk.

 

[Solomon]

OP spent more time monitoring penis than watching women smh

Ryan is still winning, he went out and had a good ****ing time. ***** wasn't his motive because he already gets his share of it. You can easily tell who gets it and who doesn't in here.

Yup and you can tell which guys have reading comprhesion and which ones don't it seems that guys don't get the concept of going out with a "female associate"

:crackup:

 

[foreverAFC]

a lot of people who appear "alpha"(whatever that actually is) are really just wankers

 

[CrimsonPanther]

alpha doesn' always get the girl. true.
but alpha doesn't care.
THIS is the difference.