The AFC Virus and How It's Not A Woman's Fault.

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Yes, it's a virus permeating society, not just men, but women also. It emerges some decades ago when things came easier to current generations.

Credit cards enabled the spending of money before it was earned.

Video games and technology enables people to interact with some sort of interface between them.

Parents are providing a larger share of their children's wants and needs.

Children are living at home longer, getting married later, and accepting less and less responibility at ages younger than they used to.

Buffet, Warren Buffet the billionaire investor didn't want a single dime to be given to his kids during their youth, and has stated that he won't give them any of it when passes. Now, that might be bogus, but the point is, he wants them to learn to earn. When his son Peter wanted to buy a farm, Warren did so by offering a market rate interest loan, so that Peter was actually in business, not just squandering resources.

I speak not of heresy, but of experience. I live in the Northeast. I have friends of all walks of life. Those who appear to "struggle" do so because they can't get out of their own way. There's always someone to blame. Their parents had no money. They had no friends. They were born fat. They were born skinny, or ugly. Their friends d!cked them over. And while I feel, only for a moment for them, I feel no longer. Because guess what....across all walks of life you'll find a story to cry about or sob about. Someone worse off. But how does that change a thing?

The AFC virus is not just a way in which a man interacts improperly with women, but with life. It's counter-active to the "flow" of life. Anyone who has had anything never whined about not getting it. The AFC virus infects a man completely, all along the way of women. The AFC virus isn't just an incident, but a way of life. Men don't act AFC once, they are AFC or they're not. Because, honestly, if you're chump around women, you're a chump around everything else, too.

You don't need a super-stupendously great job to get women, or get laid. Heck, there's hot white trash girls I've met who'd suffice if you made 30k+. Classy girls expect to keep a classy lifestyle similar to what their parents raised them, so it won't be a surprise if she's pissed if you're not at least meeting what her daddy provided her mommy.

But the AFC virus, while not TOTALLY the fault of men or women, CAN be cured. It can. Unfortunately it was spread by parents doing too much for their kids, and kids willing to accept that. I wouldn't turn down the money or the offering, but your damm well sure I'd return the same to them with or without it.

For instance, I know of many people I associate with who have paid-for top shelf educations. Their parents want to, and the kids get a lot of dough to drink, have sex, and skip LOTS of classes. The "smart" is to not refuse their money or the education, or the avoidance of student loans, but to make good. Strive for top grades. Get lots of internships. Get involved. Join groups. Get scholarships. Seek the counsel of professors who you're paying for, top quality money. GO to all your classes. Sounds geeky, but if I had that offering from generous parents, it's what I would do, and it's what I would expect.

Not all kids are so lucky. Some don't go, others must borrow. In any event, give 100%. Most don't though. They skip classes like it's not a bother. Like they're not paying. Oh well. Live life as you want, but I'm here to point out the WHYS, it's your job to fill in the blanks.

A slothful existence and idle hands weakens the spirit, and this is why most guys are weak toward girls. They've never truly worked or been taught how to. They've never been a trench-like situation to work above something.

Alot of the greatest sales books are written by guys who had nothing, zero, zilch, nada. Gee, I wonder why that was? Not only did they have no education, but they had nothing to fall back on. No hope for jobs like we do today. So they HAD to succeed at all cost. Today, that isn't necessary, what with simple jobs @ McDonalds, Kohls, Gas stations, Best Buy, malls, gyms, etc, a person can pick up a lifestyle quick. Next, get the credit card out, and you can buy a lifestyle. There's little work there, you just trade time.

So what is the AFC? A person weakened by improper training. You can awaken once you know you've been subject to these habits that did it. Call it what you will, blame who you must, but from now on out, the only person to blame is you, because you know it exists and now choose to do nothing about it.

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The AFC virus flows into how SOME of the problems are not women's fault.

I say SOME, because I know I'll get lots of statistics and divorce statements, and obesity facts, and even some ideas about awful dates. BUT, I'm an American guy, mostly of German and French descent. And so I've dated and met American women, so I know. I've dated Spanish-Americanized girls, and some Asian women as well.

Do you know what common denomiator I had with them all?

Choice.

That's right.

As much as a girl was a bytch, or white trash, or pleasant, or beautiful, or smoked, or was obese, I had CHOICE, and that is my power. My Strength. I CHOSE not to date them again, or I chose to discard the number. In either case, I chose, knowing the full extent I must bear any liability for the risks I am involved in.

Sure, countless times I sought the counsel of friends older than I on problems, and most times, if I was TRULY honest, and they heard what I said without any skewing of the facts, they offered great advice. If I was harmed, the obvious answer was "told ya so." I saw it coming and got burned. My fault.

Same here. Don't get mushy about relationships, or marriage, just yet, Romeo. Sure, you see a woman and her looks alone can transmit the fantasy of all the dirty things you can do, but I've known not-so hot chicks that were freaks, and super hot girls who were squeasmish about sex, so it's not an absolute.

What is an absolute is that women are, well, somewhat unstable no matter what they are, where they live, and how they're raised. I mean no disrespect, but in a man's world of black and white, a woman appears a little out of control. There are some logical women, but mostly we seek them for their emotions and sensitivity, otherwise you'd be gay.

It's a tiresome venture to put it all on them. Yes, America in and out of itself offers one of the best lifestyles, so many, particularly our generation wants to be part of that. Most girls have dreams of being soccer moms, of having huge homes with unlimited budgets to refurbish them, of having wonderful ****tail parties and holidays, and having a loving marriage in which the man can read her like a book and acts so perfectly that he will never hurt her emotionally.

NEVER
GONNA
HAPPEN

It starts with a relationship and what you want. A relationship is of any length, short or long, but for that time period, you know each other intimately. It's mutual. Guys, we've got to be smarter. Sure, sometimes a woman might just totally buck the entire bell curve and be completely nuts, and when you see this, act accordingly. Restraining order. Change phone numbers and passwords, and move on. Don't associate.

But by and large...WE WILL ALWAYS be in charge, always have supreme responsibility, and generally be under-appreciated, except when we least expect it.

To me, it's like noting the weather. Sure, it might be minus 30 outside, or snowing 2 feet in New England, but what can I do about the weather?

1. I can move.
2. I can dress/prepare appropriately.

That's it.

The other change we seek is a matter of culture, and as I stated before, has to come from the TOTAL male population, not just the 1 woman you see. That ego battle is a waste of time and energy.

Women for the youngin's will do as they will do, and a man must realize he does what he does. Countless times women are recycled in my life. I dated one girl months ago, she comes back around to realize she missed me and wants to see me. AT that point, I choose to accept the risk of her flaking again, or not. It's nobody's fault, no story needs to be told. If you're going back to "bite the dog that bit ya", you already know the risks.

I feel the same thing endemic of how men operate "in the field" today, too. They go in all doey eyed like deer, seeing women as docile creatures. HA! The teenagers are the worst, and it lasts until mid-20's, until they realize how desctructive their behavior truly is. Then, they wise up, hopefully before they've burned every bridge.

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Women can be a blessing or a sin, DEPENDING on the MAN. If the man is not in control of himself and lacks the proper perspective, he will have no control of his woman and lack the proper frame. If he is in control, he has proper control of his emotions, himself, and his frame.

It isn't an instantaneous thing, which is why "inner game", or your perspective/frame on life and your mind is certainly the most difficult, most time consuming, and most important part of it all.

Thus begins the AFC Virus conversations ...



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you're chump around women, you're a chump around everything else, too.
Not true.

Many men who are clueless with women are Lords in other areas. Some of the biggest AFC's are lawyers, surgeons, political leaders, over achievers and captains of industry. I used to be an AFC, but my resume and my accomplishments, given my age, was impressive. At the tender age of 18 I had business connections, distinctions, influence and leadership experience- although I was an AFC with women.

To say that a chump around women is a chump all round stresses far too much importance on dating as a measure of a man's worth.
 

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You know, and I know, that the words described here are true.

If a person aruges your points, then they obviously haven't gone through enough personally to comprehend where you're coming from and what you're pointing out. On the same note, they probably can't really add too much to the discussion either.

Another topic about how to get laid or anything along those lines will only blur what really needs to be spotlighted here. So we can save that discussion, which has been beaten to death, for another time. Let's get down to business here, shall we.

Too often today we see opportunities, but fail to take advantage of what is placed in front of us. Why is this? Are we scared? Are we unsure of ourselves? Are we too weak minded to think for ourselves? It could be any combination of those, but the constant in each of those problems is the individual. The individual that can't keep motivation and stay on track to reaching his goals has much ahead of him if he wishes to pursue and actually reach those aspirations.

What have you done today?

What will you do tomorrow?

Those are important questions to ask yourself.

Are you keeping your thinking patterns congruent with what you want and how you'll go about achieving what it is you want? Do you even know what you really, really, want? If you don't, sit down for while and sift through you deepest, darkest, personal thoughts and let them fester inside your head until you come to a solid idea of what's really important to you. Screw your negative thoughts and everything else, go after what is that you can't get out of your head. Because that's what'll get your blood pumping and get your motivation levels up.

Keeping those levels up is the damned hardest part of any entire process. You just have to keep your head on straight and stay on track. No magic pill, no magic anything. Just plain dedication and willpower.


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Originally posted by Marlimus
Not true.

Many men who are clueless with women are Lords in other areas. Some of the biggest AFC's are lawyers, surgeons, political leaders, over achievers and captains of industry. I used to be an AFC, but my resume and my accomplishments, given my age, was impressive. At the tender age of 18 I had business connections, distinctions, influence and leadership experience- although I was an AFC with women.

To say that a chump around women is a chump all round stresses far too much importance on dating as a measure of a man's worth.
Word. Absolutely right, here.
 

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He brings up a great point though. In everything that happens in yoru life, it's CHOICE that dominates, and that is what he was trying to convey.

Faults are in every explaination, and guarenteed there are bound to be a few douches that will flame.

The point is that to end AFC behaviour, you must choose your future. If you see this girl, she might not even be hot, but you are interested in her, forget the AFC days of loving her to death. Go with the flow and enjoy the result, failure or not. Learn and re-apply.
 

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Originally posted by A-Unit
you're chump around women, you're a chump around everything else, too.
Yes, very true.

My 2 cents? I think it all has to do with what we define a chump to be.

Like anything it's all relevant. BUT, when I came to this site and until now, I have the understanding that a chump is a guy who is p*ssy-whipped, he has no control, he does not lead. the p*ssy controls him, and leads him...to supplicate, put it on a pedestal, and hence oneitis, etc etc.

Now, the reason I think these guys who are chumps around everything else is because they are simply whipped. I definitely agree here. I have seen it with my own eyes.

They have no true control over their lives. They've plunged into one thing, such as being a doctor, a lawyer, what have you, etc. A man who takes control over his life has balance. He doesn't allow being a doctor to be his life. You can't be any one thing. You need to explore various aspects of life in order to be truly successful.

wait...quick question...how many doctors have you met that are actually healthy eaters and workout are in shape, etc?? lol, I have only met 2 so far. and I have met quite a few medical professionals actually.

When people ask me who I am, I say "I'm a student." But, I'm a student of life, not engineering, not medicine, etc.

Yeah, I agree, guys who are chumps in one thing are chumps in everything else. The majority of people I have met in my life have no time-management skills whatsoever.

The key is having control over your life, and being free of external influence. I'm working on achieving that absolute state myself...reading a lot of Zen stuff lately, it's awesome.

Anyway, A-Unit says it better...yet another great post :up:

eh...it's like that quote I read somewhere..."Few people truly live, most merely exist." (or something like that, forgot who said it)
 

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In a carefree society where it was just only you and the girl of your dreams. You would be the man you were born to be

Add today's societies pressure's
Popularity, Trends, Peer Presure, Society Pressure, Wealth, Money, Negative beliefs.

Without training or guidance, a person can easily be a Simple AFC
 

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