The 1-10 Scale

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Bokanovsky said:
The 1-10 cale is completely useless. There is really no point in debating the differences between an 8 and a 9 or a 9 and a 10 (some of which boil down to subjective criteria anyway).

For the vast majority of guys, the 1-4 scale makes a lot more sense:

4: A girl that you find extremely hot. Basically, she is your dream girl (physically) and is the type that you could easily develop onetis for. Most guys rarely if ever get to date/have sex with such a woman.

3: A girl that you find attractive and would bang or date without hesitation. You feel good having this woman on your arm, even though you know that there are hotter women out there.

2: A girl you might consider banging when intoxicated or going through a dry spell. You couldn't date her without feeling somewhat ashamed of yourself and knowing that you could do better.

1: Untouchable

This is pretty good. Since < 6 is moot anyways, might as well simplify.

The main reason I made this thread was because A) I think its fun to rate girls, and B) every guy on earth thinks his gf is an 8.5. She isn't.
 

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I kind of hate rating girls actually. In my opinion the best scale is the binary scale. YEA or NAY.
 

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Down Low said:
What is the distribution of looks? It's very high-schooly to jump up with the answer "normal distribution." Why? Because we're not dealing with a small, fairly uniform group of mid-teens girls.

Worse still, the college scene, the club scene, where chatter about rating is more likely to be heard, is full of men who are too young for marriage, with similar-aged women -- that is, women who are too old for marriage. Within that environment, few men are going to arrive at the conclusion that 14-year-old girls are the best bride material. This most-important point never gets noticed while they make a fuss over silliness about dragon tattoos or brand of purse, as if they were Chinamen rattling on about the size of hands and feet.

On the one hand, looks deteriorate with age. Women hit their peak about two to four years after menarche, and then decline at a consistent rate. Constant decline = linear.

On the other hand, for any one particular age, looks will be distributed normally. What does this do to our line of looks vs. age? Turns it into a scatter diagram without having any effect on the central tendency. (Except that the variation also decreases with age: there's hardly any difference between the most-beautiful 99-year-old and the most-ugly.)

So, when we start summing up total numbers of HB 7s, HB6s, and so on, we find a simple second-order curve that is the definite integral of the line of looks declining with age.

Just to make it easy sleazy, do what I did, and use a simple multiple such as 3/2 to describe the greater numbers of HB (X-1) compared to HB (X).

That's why I say that only 1 out of 9 women are HB 5 or better. Anything above HB 5 and, odds are, you're fooling yourself by rating her by dragon tattoos and brand of purse.
Maybe its 1 am or I'm just dumb but can you explain this in normal English please, all I worry about normally is if she passes the boner test, if she does I'm going in if not I'm backing away.
 

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Maybe its 1 am or I'm just dumb but can you explain this in normal English please, all I worry about normally is if she passes the boner test, if she does I'm going in if not I'm backing away.
100 human females are randomly beamed up by space aliens for probing. Here's their distribution according to looks:

HB 9 . . . 1
HB 8 . . . 1
HB 7 . . . 2
HB 6 . . . 3
HB 5 . . . 4
HB 4 . . . 7
HB 3 . . . 10
HB 2 . . . 15
HB 1 . . . 23
HB 0 . . . 34

Finishing with the human females, the space aliens decide to probe 100 random human males. Here's the male distribution according to looks:

MB 9 . . . 3
MB 8 . . . 4
MB 7 . . . 5
MB 6 . . . 6
MB 5 . . . 7
MB 4 . . . 9
MB 3 . . . 11
MB 2 . . . 14
MB 1 . . . 18
MB 0 . . . 22

The space aliens decide that human looks decline as they age. Males reach their peak at about age 30, then decline gradually. Females reach their peak about 2-4 years after their first menstrual period, then decline a little quicker than males, to near zero during menopause. The space aliens conclude that, on average, males are prettier than females, and decide to probe only males from now on.

One of the space aliens objects. It blurps that thorax girth and bumpiness is pretty; therefore, the space aliens made a mistake by not limiting their collection of female specimens to only those with pretty thoracic qualities. The other aliens disagree. They blurp that, among all humans of the same age, some are prettier than others, but they all wilt over time. They neep to computer displays that show that looks average out for each of the age groups. The space aliens pull out their lasers and disintegrate the criminal disagreer.

After enjoying their probings, the humans are terrified by the meaningful violence, and jump to their deaths.
 

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typical said:
Maybe its 1 am or I'm just dumb but can you explain this in normal English please, all I worry about normally is if she passes the boner test, if she does I'm going in if not I'm backing away.

He's saying that human beings are morons

That women at age 21 are well past the date when they should be locked down and settled thus stagnate into corruption and that ignorant, childish men will never learn this until it is far too late and the women far too old
 

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Umm I was under the assumption that if you were to take any population and rank it according to some trait, given that you took a very large sample and made sure that other attributes were kept within a certain range that the distribution would look like your typical bell curve/normal distribution.

Thus if the median/mode and mean are at 5 on the scale that means that 68% women would be 1 standard deviation away or roughly between 3 and 7. That means that only 16% of women are below the looks scale of 3 and only 16% of women are above the looks scale of 7.

I agree that looks diminish over time but the number of really beautiful and really ugly women would always stay roughly the same at 16% each and the vast majority (68%) would be slightly below or slightly above average.

To me it seems like you're trying to disprove the normal distribution curve here, by saying that vast majority of women are ugly as hell with very few that are average looking and even fewer being very good looking.

So lets say you took all the people in the world between the ages of 16 and 40 and ranked them according to looks only and separated the men and the woman's tables both tables would actually look nearly the same and would look like the normal curve. They have to be because science and statistics says so.
 

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Burroughs said:
He's saying that human beings are morons

That women at age 21 are well past the date when they should be locked down and settled thus stagnate into corruption and that ignorant, childish men will never learn this until it is far too late and the women far too old
Dunno man. They don't seem to have any gut instinct for young girls, and can't apply math to real-life problems either. Maybe stories about alien probing are better for the younger generation?
 

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1-4. The fvcking b!tch wouldn't even talk to me.

5. She was nice enough, but just not into me.

6. We made out, but only because she was drunk.

7. We had an amazing connection. I ended up getting a bl0wjob, but then she never answered my calls again. She must have had a boyfriend. Or herpes.

8. We saw each other about a month, had sex a few times, then both realized that despite the decent sex, we couldn't stand each other's personalities.

9. We had mind-blowing porno sex that went on for hours at a time. But closeness turned into codependency and she ended up being bat sh!t crazy.

10. She's blowing me underneath my desk as I type this message.
 

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It varies from culture to culture, too. Many of the women we regard as lovely (even if they are Asian) many Asian MEN think are plain, or even ugly. A lot of black men like a HUGE, fat ass on a woman. I can't stand women who let themselves look like that, myself.
 

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Down Low's condescending math only applies if you take a completely random sample from the entire population. There is no way this would apply to the "HB" age range---effectively 16-40. We'll even say 18-40 to keep it legal. So if we were to take a random sample of North American females in this age range, I think the looks would be normally distributed. 68% in the 4-6 range, which is pretty consistent with observation in any public place if you focus on that age group.

A study like this would be near impossible to do because of the subjectivity involved, but, if you had a large enough panel of men from the same age group and culture to rate the sample subjects, there might be some consistency and you could take an average of the ratings for each female.

Until that time I'm sticking with my scale!
 

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My scale :

Nope.
Yes.
Girlfriend.

Looks, intelligence, personality, how they treat me frame up the girlfriend category. The other two fall strictly on looks.
 

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Warrior74 said:
My scale :

Nope.
Yes.
Girlfriend.

Looks, intelligence, personality, how they treat me frame up the girlfriend category. The other two fall strictly on looks.
And that's what it should be for every man, she's either worth screwing or she is not worth screwing, and if she is worth screwing then with time and consistent good behaviour she can become your girlfriend till then date around.
 

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I'll skip the discussion and just give the cheat-sheet answer. Make a 3D graph. For the slice of the answer that is age 16, a normal curve centered at HB 5 is a good approximation. For age 17 and beyond, keep shifting the center downward about HB (1/6) per year. However -- and this is very important -- the top of the range must also be clipped at the same rate. Thus, age 22 is centered at HB 4 and never exceeds HB 9, and age 40 is centered at HB 1 and never exceeds HB 6.

The center hits HB 0 at age 46, so there really isn't any need to limit the upper end.
 

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The fact that men go to such depths to rate a woman's attractiveness speaks volumes about their character and what they value.

I have never met a woman that has come close to being as shallow as the men in this thread.
 

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rearea said:
The fact that men go to such depths to rate a woman's attractiveness speaks volumes about their character and what they value.

I have never met a woman that has come close to being as shallow as the men in this thread.
100% Troll
 

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rearea said:
The fact that men go to such depths to rate a woman's attractiveness speaks volumes about their character and what they value.

I have never met a woman that has come close to being as shallow as the men in this thread.
Shaming.

Physical Beauty.That's what men like. What's the problem with that? Why do women's stupid values that make them end up living broke with the drug dealing pimp boyfriend never come into question when they choose asshøles over nice guys? They are not shallow, because they go for the personality, right?

Every men I met was willing to admit that he was shallow in physical attraction and if you talk to them, they are pretty objective and candid about it.

Can you do the same?
 

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goundra said:
It varies from culture to culture, too. Many of the women we regard as lovely (even if they are Asian) many Asian MEN think are plain, or even ugly. A lot of black men like a HUGE, fat ass on a woman. I can't stand women who let themselves look like that, myself.
Insightful

+1
 

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Men who think in terms of math, describe the world around them mathematically. Men who think in terms of literature, use literary references.

In every way that ever mattered, picking a girl to inseminate is, was, and always will be equal to picking a girl to impregnate. Men are very picky about selection of mate. Women only make themselves available when they're in heat and have male-like high libido. But it's men who choose which women to take. That is good and right. That is natural selection. Men choose the most-fertile women for copulation. There are no 40-year-old HB 7s because anyone could always say "yeah but you shoulda seen her when she was younger." 40-year-olds have reproductive issues that limit their fertility. 16-year-olds, OTOH, are at their peak of fertility. That's why they're the most beautiful. That's why 14-year-olds make the best wife material: their best is ahead of them not behind them.

Only a silly boy with no experience with women would say it's "shallow" for a man to exercise his natural rights.
 

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Down Low said:
Men who think in terms of math, describe the world around them mathematically. Men who think in terms of literature, use literary references.

In every way that ever mattered, picking a girl to inseminate is, was, and always will be equal to picking a girl to impregnate. Men are very picky about selection of mate. Women only make themselves available when they're in heat and have male-like high libido. But it's men who choose which women to take. That is good and right. That is natural selection. Men choose the most-fertile women for copulation. There are no 40-year-old HB 7s because anyone could always say "yeah but you shoulda seen her when she was younger." 40-year-olds have reproductive issues that limit their fertility. 16-year-olds, OTOH, are at their peak of fertility. That's why they're the most beautiful. That's why 14-year-olds make the best wife material: their best is ahead of them not behind them.

Only a silly boy with no experience with women would say it's "shallow" for a man to exercise his natural rights.
This has been known since the dawn of time...only in the last 500 years as the western world under the yoke of Rome has this been changed....so that Rome could enslave first through sanctioning marriage then creating banks to finance the state
 
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