"That guy right there thinks you are hot"

[TillTheEndOfTime]

1. I in no way suggest letting a girl use you as a doormat or use you for money, or be her *****.

2. What I do suggest is that the DJ bible is horribly wrong. ITs sooo wrong, that your probably better off by simply doing the opposite of what it says to do.

So, mr. DJ bible lover, how do you explain the original poster's situation with DJ bible logic? according to the DJ bible, the chick should have actually been turned off, and avoided approaching the guy. IT seems the opposite has happened after the friend displayed his wussyness.. According to the DJ bible, women dont tolerate wussy behavior and its a turn off..according to the DJ bible.

So again, how do you explain this?

For fuvk's sake! The bible is meant to be taken as a BLANKET statement about women. It cannot possibly be accurate in 100% of individual situations you come across. Take everything with a grain of salt because there are so many different factors that one couldn't possibly expect the bible to consider.

Believe it or not "game lovers", but when a girl is physically attracted to you, you can be a wuss with no game and she'll still like you. Believe it. It is true. I have seen this situation more than once. It seems like that could be the case in this situation.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

For fuvk's sake! The bible is meant to be taken as a BLANKET statement about women. It cannot possibly be accurate in 100% of individual situations you come across. Take everything with a grain of salt because there are so many different factors that one couldn't possibly expect the bible to consider.

Believe it or not "game lovers", but when a girl is physically attracted to you, you can be a wuss with no game and she'll still like you. Believe it. It is true. I have seen this situation more than once. It seems like that could be the case in this situation.

so in otherwords, you agree the DJ bible is wrong, it says alot of things that are untrue and poorly explain reality? yes or no?

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

so in otherwords, you agree the DJ bible is wrong, it says alot of things that are untrue and poorly explain reality? yes or no?

I say that the general principles are on the right track, but some of the details are off mark. Like I said, it ignores factors and assumes everything is about "personality/game" which obviously isn't always the case. It assumes all girls think one way. Which obviously isn't the case.

It is a good STARTING point, but once you lift off, you should start trusting your instinct and forgetting about "rules" you read.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Like I said, it ignores factors and assumes everything is about "personality/game" which obviously isn't always the case.

So then its NOT ACCURATE!! thats all you needed to say.

not accurate=bullsh1t.
not accurate=wrong answer

The DJ bible sucks. being half-right a couple of times "here and there" aint enough to get it out of the "total bullsh!t" classification.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

I say that the general principles are on the right track, but some of the details are off mark. Like I said, it ignores factors and assumes everything is about "personality/game" which obviously isn't always the case. It assumes all girls think one way. Which obviously isn't the case.

It is a good STARTING point, but once you lift off, you should start trusting your instinct and forgetting about "rules" you read.

I'll use this analogy. Learning from the bible is like first learning to drive an automatic car. But once you go out on the field, each girl is a manual car. You have to learn from experience how to work the clutch. You have to learn from experience when to shift up or down or you'll wreck the engine. The bible cannot teach you these things. So if you take the bible literally, you'll drive the manual like automatic and be doing 8000 rpm on first gear.

I didn't want to get into a "right vs wrong" debate because it ain't so black and white like that.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

I'll use this analogy. Learning from the bible is like first learning to drive an automatic car. But once you go out on the field, each girl is a manual car. You have to learn from experience how to work the clutch. You have to learn from experience when to shift up or down or you'll wreck the engine. The bible cannot teach you these things. So if you take the bible literally, you'll drive the manual like automatic and be doing 8000 rpm on first gear.

I didn't want to get into a "right vs wrong" debate because it ain't so black and white like that.

okay, so going with that analgy:

automatic NOT equal to manual

and DJ bible predictions NOT predictive of real life experiences.

so given this, automatic=manual would be a lie and DJ bible prediction=real life experiences would also be a lie. hmm, sounds to me like the DJ bible is still wrong, this analagy agrees with such a statement.

Your analagy is only comfirming what Im saying. are you arguing with me or agreeing with me?

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

okay, so going with that analgy:

automatic NOT equal to manual

and DJ bible predictions NOT predictive of real life experiences.

so given this, automatic=manual would be a lie and DJ bible prediction=real life experiences would also be a lie. hmm, sounds to me like the DJ bible is still wrong, this analagy agrees with such a statement.

Your analagy is only comfirming what Im saying. are you arguing with me or agreeing with me?

Going back to the analogy. There are basic truths for both manual and automatic cars. You step on the gas and they go, you hit the brakes and they stop. That will never change and will always be right. These are related to the general truths found in the bible.

So what I am saying is that there are general truths in the bible to follow. But don't take SPECIFIC real life scenarios and try to go backwards and apply them to the bible. It doesn't work that way. That's NOT the way the bible was written.

The bible is a tool like anything else. There is a wrong and right way to use it. If you abuse the bible, it will abuse you. That is the warning/disclaimer I think you were referring to earlier.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Going back to the analogy. There are basic truths for both manual and automatic cars. You step on the gas and they go, you hit the brakes and they stop. That will never change and will always be right. These are related to the general truths found in the bible.

So what I am saying is that there are general truths in the bible to follow. But don't take SPECIFIC real life scenarios and try to go backwards and apply them to the bible. It doesn't work that way. That's NOT the way the bible was written.

The bible is a tool like anything else. There is a wrong and right way to use it. If you abuse the bible, it will abuse you. That is the warning/disclaimer I think you were referring to earlier.

No thats not the warning disclaimer Im refering to.

The warning disclaimer Im refering to is it should tell people straight up that:
-it's predictions about women are off
-it makes the assumption that all women are the same
-It suggests certain things are required for a woman to want you when really those thing arent important at all.
-It denies the importance of other things when those otherthings are actually very important.
-it claims certain "techniques" make women want you and appeal to you, when these "techniques" are total BS and make no difference if not actually hurt you.

it should say something like:
Disclaimer: the DJ bible provides very innacurate information about women and dating. Most of it is actually completely wrong information and should not be taken as credible or reliable dating advice. Use of this information is unsafe for your sex/love life. Use at your own risk

Basically, its soooo wayyyyy of from reality, that it is useless. I dont see how any sane logical person could even say its useful, even for "training wheels" purposes, it is useless.

and Just because manual and automatic both share gas and brake doesnt mean that the DJ bible is acutally useful in anyway or in anyway relfective of reality. It says way too many things that are not true or very far from reality. There may be a couple of common sense points here and there, BUT THIS DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT IS HORRIBLY INNACURATE AND THEREFORE BULLSH!T

If it is horribly innacurate, its BULL****, its wrong.

If you get too many questions wrong on a test, YOU DONT KNOW THE MATERIAL! just becuase you got a few right doesnt mean you "KNOW THE MATERIAL. This concept extends to the DJ bible, so please dont try to justify the Bible as accurate or useful just becuase it has 2 common sense points in it that are true.

 

[Babnik]

No thats not the warning disclaimer Im refering to.

The warning disclaimer Im refering to is it should tell people straight up that:
-it's predictions about women are off
-it makes the assumption that all women are the same
-It suggests certain things are required for a woman to want you when really those thing arent important at all.
-It denies the importance of other things when those otherthings are actually very important.
-it claims certain "techniques" make women want you and appeal to you, when these "techniques" are total BS and make no difference if not actually hurt you.

it should say something like:
Disclaimer: the DJ bible provides very innacurate information about women and dating. Most of it is actually completely wrong information and should not be taken as credible or reliable dating advice. Use of this information is unsafe for your sex/love life. Use at your own risk

Basically, its soooo wayyyyy of from reality, that it is useless. I dont see how any sane logical person could even say its useful, even for "training wheels" purposes, it is useless.

and Just because manual and automatic both share gas and brake doesnt mean that the DJ bible is acutally useful in anyway or in anyway relfective of reality. It says way too many things that are not true or very far from reality. There may be a couple of common sense points here and there, BUT THIS DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT IS HORRIBLY INNACURATE AND THEREFORE BULLSH!T

If it is horribly innacurate, its BULL****, its wrong.

If you get too many questions wrong on a test, YOU DONT KNOW THE MATERIAL! just becuase you got a few right doesnt mean you "KNOW THE MATERIAL. This concept extends to the DJ bible, so please dont try to justify the Bible as accurate or useful just becuase it has 2 common sense points in it that are true.

Well, its not all wrong.

There are awesome points, such as being the man, having a life, taking charge, being sexual, flirting, and such.

You don't want to be AFC. Even if we go back to the looks thing and looks matter so much (lets agree on this just between us) and if you go on a date and do NOTHING to your date, just hang around then NOTHING will happen.

Believe it or not, most of "the game" is just flirting which is a natural thing, its within us. DJ Bible is for those who have a lack of basic instincts or something.

I can't agree that it is complete BS though.


I used to struggle with the fact that I wanted a relationship before I had sex with a girl and they flaked.

DJ Bible taught me not to. Regardless of how good looking you are, if you are clingy and disparate and too eager - girls WILL flake. If you don't f*ck when is the right time to - they flake.

My big big thing against the Bible is how guys expect women to chase them. It just won't happen. Very few girls make all the moves. The vast, very vast majority will not pull your **** out and suck it even you want it big time.

 

[FatHuntresS]

maybe god_of_getting_layed aint that godly either. or maybe i agree with you, but my agree = your disagree, and that is why. are u agreeing with me ornot?

 

[Babnik]

1. I in no way suggest letting a girl use you as a doormat or use you for money, or be her *****.

2. What I do suggest is that the DJ bible is horribly wrong. ITs sooo wrong, that your probably better off by simply doing the opposite of what it says to do.

So, mr. DJ bible lover, how do you explain the original poster's situation with DJ bible logic? according to the DJ bible, the chick should have actually been turned off, and avoided approaching the guy. IT seems the opposite has happened after the friend displayed his wussyness.. According to the DJ bible, women dont tolerate wussy behavior and its a turn off..according to the DJ bible.

So again, how do you explain this?

He wasn't a wussy... all he did was said "This chick is hot" and kept looking at her and eating as I was leaving, so I felt like just coming up to her and saying this for the bloody hell of it.

I know the guy and by all means he isn't a wuss, but was like 2nd time he noticed that girl and kept saying "Damn, she is hot!"

 

[spider_007]

Karma bud

oh and the bible is not wrong.


You just didn't count on the fact that the girls is so outgoing and that she thought he was decent looking.

remember confidence radiets.....from accross the room.

SH1T HAPPENS!!!!
move on.

I still don't see what you ware trying to do....it's not like she would go; "eww, how gross" to a total stranger, even if she didn't like him.

 

[rrrrr]

I thought I already make my posts dumbed down enough for most of the low IQ people on this forum to understand, but I guess not.

Basically, in layman's terms, my posts means: this is proof the DJ bible is wrong most of the time, if not always.

DONT TRUST IT.

THey need to put a disclaimer at the top of the DJ bible about it's innacuracies.

I'm not even going to read all this thread because the premise of the original poster was stupid: going up to a girl and saying "my friend thinks you're hot" does not make the other guy look like a coward, you idiot, nor does it make you look strong that you went up to her. SO this says nothing about the bible or seduction.

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

I do this sometimes, make other guys look pathetic.

Actually I think it makes one more pathetic when they are trying to smash others game. Infact, I think in almost every end of it, even acknowledging some guy with any game, puts the girl to thinking about the guy. Which is not good. Sort of like the "there is no such thing as bad publicity" line of thought.

One day I may get my ass kicked for that.

Well at least you know whats coming for you. Then again, you could just work on your game, instead of trying to undermine others. But that takes confidence and self esteem and it's hard. Oh well, I might send you flowers in the hospital... then again maybe not.

But I don't feel bad about it... I mean if I want it, why should HE get it?

If you want it, why not just work towards it? Don't take the back door route, throw your best game on, if it doesnt work... think about what you screwed up and move on. Better game next time. Quit being a douchè.

 

[Babnik]

Actually I think it makes one more pathetic when they are trying to smash others game. Infact, I think in almost every end of it, even acknowledging some guy with any game, puts the girl to thinking about the guy. Which is not good. Sort of like the "there is no such thing as bad publicity" line of thought.
Well at least you know whats coming for you. Then again, you could just work on your game, instead of trying to undermine others. But that takes confidence and self esteem and it's hard. Oh well, I might send you flowers in the hospital... then again maybe not.


If you want it, why not just work towards it? Don't take the back door route, throw your best game on, if it doesnt work... think about what you screwed up and move on. Better game next time. Quit being a douchè.

You are the dude who tells your friends about a single job opening while you are trying to get the job right? And NOT telling them is another form of a LIE.

You are officially NICE!

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

You are the dude who tells your friends about a single job opening while you are trying to get the job right? And NOT telling them is another form of a LIE.

You are officially NICE!

Maybe you need real friends to understand why you don't fuc/< them over.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

I'm not even going to read all this thread because the premise of the original poster was stupid: going up to a girl and saying "my friend thinks you're hot" does not make the other guy look like a coward, you idiot, nor does it make you look strong that you went up to her. SO this says nothing about the bible or seduction.

*clears throat*...

The DJ bible says that if you come across as wussy or do anything wussy or demonstrate a lack of confidence, the woman will be turned off by it. Exerting any energy to talk to the guy or anythign in this case should not be happening according to the bible.

The bible also implies that women are very sensitive to any kind of wussy behavior. it also says that many "borderline wussy" behaviors are enough to turn a woman off. ie. simply asking for a kiss instead of doing it, not making eye contact becuase you are too shy is supposed to make a woman's ***** dry up and get chapped according to the DJ bible.

ANY KIND OF SUBTLE WUSSY BEHAVIOR IS ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU FAIL ACCORDING TO THE DJ BIBLE.

Now, a guy asking his friend to tell a girl he thinks she is hot when he clearly has the means and motive to do it himself is clearly showing that hes too scared to do it himself. Why else would a guy have his friend do it? Women know its common for a guy to get his buddy to do things for him when hes too scared to do it himself. ie have his friend ask her for her phone number, have his friend talk to her and tell her shes hot etc.

Even though Babnik's friend didnt tell babnik to approach the girl, from the woman's point of view, Im 100% certain she thought babnik's friend told him to tell her he thinks shes hot becuase he was too scared to do it himself. What actually happened is not important, what the woman perceived is what is important. This is such a common scenario, theres no way she didnt think this is what happened. In fact, if the woman didnt think that babniks friend was too afraid to approach her, she had to have been one very stupid woman. Thats common sense. when a friend is doing the other guy's work the other guy is clearly scared. A very common scenario, every hot girl has experienced this many times in their life and even EXPECTS it from men.

Bottom line, she perceived him as too scared to do it himself, and there is no way she didnt perceive him as scared to do it himself. So without a doubt she was aware of his fear (she perceived him as afraid), YET SHE APPROACHED HIM ANYWAY. and keep in mind that this wasnt "borderline wussy", this was a clear demonstration of fear, which is far far worse.

ACCORDING TO THE DJ BIBLE, THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED:
If a woman perceives a man as fearful, She will be very very very turned off.

but instead, she approached him. A contridiction. PROOF THAT THE DJ BIBLE IS INCORRECT ABOUT WOMEN.

yep, the DJ bible sucks :yes:

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

He wasn't a wussy... all he did was said "This chick is hot" and kept looking at her and eating as I was leaving, so I felt like just coming up to her and saying this for the bloody hell of it.

I know the guy and by all means he isn't a wuss, but was like 2nd time he noticed that girl and kept saying "Damn, she is hot!"

Im sure he isnt a wuss, and wasnt a wuss there.

But the point is, your friend may not have been wussy, but the woman definitely perceived him as one. THeres no way shes didnt think your friend put you up to it because hes afriad. Hot women get this all the time and expect it.

So when a guy comes up and says "my friend thinks your hot!". what do you think she is thinking about the friend whos sitting away watching when scared guys pull this stunt on her all the time? yeah, she thought your friend was afraid even though he may not have been at all.

Reality is only what she perceives it. If she perceives your friend as afraid, then hes afraid from her perspective of reality.

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

*clears throat*...

ACCORDING TO THE DJ BIBLE, THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED:
If a woman perceives a man as fearful, She will be very very very turned off.

but instead, she approached him. A contridiction. PROOF THAT THE DJ BIBLE IS INCORRECT ABOUT WOMEN.

yep, the DJ bible sucks :yes:

The bible is mainly to get your head on straight. It's not an end all be all book, but then again I don't think it claimed to be. I don't know what your trip is or why you're here complaining about stuff. Maybe instead of being a negative influence, flippin about the bible, you could spend your time being helpful or maybe you could, just use your brain son.

 

[bigjohnson]

I thought I already make my posts dumbed down enough for most of the low IQ people on this forum...

I'm pretty sure a guy who misspells "laid" in his handle should refrain from excessive IQ references.