Thanks for showing me the truth about women

[Guest]

Thank you

At first it was hard to swallow. I couldn't believe what I had read on this website, and I actually was going to contradict. But, instead of opening my mouth too early ( which I usually do ), I told myself to keep reading.
After all, this is about helping other people, it's encouraging. It's not at all about: "face the truth and give up."
So I read more.

I finally came to the conclusion, that you have only two choices. Either: take it as it is, work on yourself and start playing the game, or: don't do it, if you can't get yourself to like it. I took the second choice.

The facts about women, their behaviour and sexual turn ons that are reveiled here, are so obnoxious, crazy and outrageous that I won't go near one of them for the rest of my life.
My values are and always will be: honesty ( telling someone if you love them ), good behaviour ( treat people the way you want to be treated yourself ) and equality.
Thanks to the amount of research done by members of this community, I've finally found out that women hate it if you get emotionally attached to them, that they like "*******s" who treat them like doormats ( at least once in a while ) and - probably the worst part - are desperately looking for the big, strong daddy who tells them which way to go. In the end, they have the nerve to call all this BS "love". I have no words to describe my disgust concerning these facts, but I'm grateful that you opened my eyes.
I won't become gay, because it doesn't work for me. Being a monk doesn't seem the worst option, after all.

To all of you who decided to accept the truth and play by these twisted rules: I sincerely wish you the best of luck.

 

[Captain Harlock]

what are you trying to say?

 

[Guest]

I'm trying to say that, although it might look different at first, that I really believe that the people who work on this website share their true experiences.
No bull**** like: "Buy my book and become rich instantly"-kind of tactics.
I truely believe, that, if you can get yourself to change, in order to succeed at "the game", you can find great advice and people who are willing to help you in this forum. Or, on the other hand, use these facts to make up your mind, get out of your own little dream world (like I did). Basically, I think "thank you for the effort", "for showing me how the truth really is", is what I wanted to say.

 

[Vypros]

That's your own twisted version of the truth.

And it's rooted within YOU and what you believe. Probably stemming back from some negative experience with women that when it happened you made a decision about yourself in order to survive that wasn't true. And now you keep reactivating that negative, limiting belief in order to cope with the reality that you have created for yourself.

There are MANY women out there who don't need to play games, don't want a man to treat her like ****....they just want someone with CONFIDENCE. And the beautiful thing about that is that your confidence has very little to do with women. Women are just the byproduct of the confidence you build by creating your own world.

Instead of clinging to your bitter, tainted view of reality, look inside yourself for that negative belief and decide if it's honestly something that's true or just a belief that you have created to survive and cope with the lack of results in your life.

 

[KontrollerX]

Interceptor?

TheHumanist??

Which one of those guys are you?? :crackup:

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

I've finally found out that women hate it if you get emotionally attached to them, that they like "*******s" who treat them like doormats ( at least once in a while ) and - probably the worst part - are desperately looking for the big, strong daddy who tells them which way to go. In the end, they have the nerve to call all this BS "love". I have no words to describe my disgust concerning these facts, but I'm grateful that you opened my eyes.

Just my two cents, and I don't care if you or anyone likes it or not, but I totally disagree with you. I think women like the ones you describe are usually not well, mentally, and are definitely not the norm.

If you were open-minded enough for this forum, surely you are open-minded enough to consider my opinion.

 

[MikeBrown30]

I won't become gay, because it doesn't work for me. Being a monk doesn't seem the worst option, after all.

You may as well become gay, at least you'll get some action. You fail at life.

 

[Guest]

****....they just want someone with CONFIDENCE.

Exactly. But confidence says nothing about a human's qualities or "value", if you like. In fact, I don't even like people who are or act too confident, so how can I like a woman who does. If I'm confident and relaxed around a woman, "totally in control of the situation", it only means one thing: that I'm not at all attracted to her. On the other hand, if I see a woman I find attractive, in my opinion it's only natural to be somewhat shyer. I think it's human, and I can't see anything wrong about it.
Studies have shown, that if you act like the cool control guy ( no matter if you really are one yourself ), you
get loved for that. As I said: Lying, pretending, playing a role etc. is what it's all about.

 

[decentguy]

What a pessimistic interpretation of reality. I think you've missed the point on the values of positive masculinity that are shared on this board. The goal is not to lie, pretend or play a role. The goal is to learn to be happy, confident and self-fulfilled on your own first and foremost. It's about improving your own life and not needing or depending on a woman to be happy. Once that's done, women will be naturally attracted to who you are and you will naturally attract the kind of woman that you want. Faking it can only get you so far until you crash and burn.

There are many low quality women out there, but that doesn't mean the good hearted ones who are emotionally mature and want a real relationship don't exist. They're just harder to find, and you have to learn skills to weed out the not-so-good ones.

 

[Guest]

I know what you mean. I once went to a party after finishing a tough but well paid job ( I'm a freelancer ). Although I knew most people there, a friend of mine later told me that a couple of women there had made positive remarks about me. He himself said that I had looked somehow different that night, and he thought it was because of the successful job. To say the truth, I hadn't changed one bit about my personal appearance, and the women he mentioned had never shown any interest about me until then.
Now is it just me who's freaked out ? If I'm attracted to someone, I don't care if she wears some sexy business outfit or a pair of old sweatpants, if she has a good day or is in a sad mood. The thought of women taking notice of me due to some uncontrollable coincidence is even beyond making me angry. It simply is undescribably stupid. There are not always good days in life, everybody knows that. And neither do succesful ( or on the other hand frustrating ) jobs make you a better or worse person.

I somehow like how you don't generalize, though, and instead distinguish between the mass of low quality women and a few good ones.

 

[decentguy]

See, it's not hopeless!
Again, it's not about having a good day or bad day. Being successful and confident is a more stable personality trait than simple coincidental factors. It's about how you view yourself in general, about how you know that you can take on any challenge, it's about being solid. Both men and women respond positively to these personality traits and respect them. And I hate to break it to you but the mating game ain't fair. That doesn't mean it should be about phoniness, it just means that the strongest survive. So you have 2 choices: take the easy road and refuse to work on making lasting positive changes in your life, or become one of the strong ones by cultivating your garden. The latter requires effort, but there's no reward without effort.

I hate to sound cheesy but we all have what it takes, to varying degrees, we just don't always see the potential within ourselves.

 

[Guest]

You're not cheesy at all. As I said, I like how forum members here try to encourage others. Your strongest point was, that you left no doubt about that there actually are good women out there, and I believe that this is based on your own knowledge. Only that I haven't met one before, doesn't mean that there aren't any. I also like the idea of adapting your system, putting the low quality daddy girls in the garbage can and opening a new "drawer" in my mind for quality women. I like that new term. Thanks.