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muscleman

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There is not reason for steroids unless it's prescribed as medication or (in the case of fitness) you want to get to a certain size which isn't sustainable by natural means.

You can get huge, and I mean very big and very jacked naturally. If you lift heavy, hard, and consistent your voice will deepen, your test will go through the roof, and you'll have more confidence - don't need any enhancements for that.

Unfortunately most people who use steroids do so because they want a quick solution and mistakenly think that just because they're taking roids they'll blow up. They don't do their homework, don't train accordingly, and end up roid raged with b!tch tits. Sad but true.

If you're not completely defunct right now and still relatively young, 3-4 years of SERIOUS dedication can get almost anyone in a condition similar to those on the covers of fitness mags. Unfortunately that kind of dedication almost never happens, which is why we're here in the first place.
 

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muscleman said:
If you're not completely defunct right now and still relatively young, 3-4 years of SERIOUS dedication can get almost anyone in a condition similar to those on the covers of fitness mags. Unfortunately that kind of dedication almost never happens, which is why we're here in the first place.
+1

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

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I personally have no pure interest in training for aesthetics. I mean I like looking good and have to look good when I dance, but my core goals are to improve strength and conditioning. Looking okay is a by product of training for strength while trying to maintain reasonable bodyfat levels. I have a lot of respect for guys who are fitness models, bodybuilders, as you need an inordinate amount of discipline to be that committed to your diet.

Personally, my next set of long term goals are to get to 1200 lbs on the big 3 (yes I know this is modest), 3 plate weighted pull up for reps, and 4 plate weighted dip for reps, 315 front squat, and 275 powerclean.

Blink regarding your comment on the doses, I've talked about gear dosing to a couple of MDs. By the way your average family med. doc knows next to nothing about these drugs and won't know about the differential levels of oxidative stress imposed on hepatocytes associated w/ PO intake of 17-AA orally active drugs vs. injectibles. He/She will just tell you you'll die from AAS use, blah blah blah....

I've had a friend of mine, who's an internal med doctor ask me about dosing. I suggested ~500 mg as a guideline, and he thought that was too high. He ended up using 1 amp (250 mg/wk) and didn't get the best results. I don't know what his diet, training and call schedule were like. Another MD, an ICU doc/anesthesiologist, who's also a big time user and powerlifter uses ~1 g/wk or more sometimes. He's a pretty big guy (220-240 lbs) and older so knows what doses give him what results. My point is very few MDs have a good working knowledge base on AAS, and that dose selection is a fairly individual thing.

Before I give my cycle history... I know I don't need AAS to make gains. The problem w/ these substances once you've used them is that they are quite addictive. I love how I feel on them, and being the lazy bastard that I am I enjoy being able to look a certain way on them, despite crappy diet. I'm a pretty busy guy in the summers w/ 12 hour shifts as well as a few stagettes a week, so I frequently miss meals, will go NPO 3-4 hours before shows to look lean, etc. AAS helps me to look ok despite my inadequate diet. I also love the strength gains, and how fast I can recover.

As far as my cycle history:

1st:

500 mg test enanth w/ 400 mg deca/wk and 30 mg dbol PO daily x 2 wks... this was WAAAAY too much gear. I gained 17 lbs in 8 weeks. People would make comments like "you get bigger everytime I see you". I peaked at 192 lbs at 5'8". I had weird heart palpitations from the dbol, so I stopped taking it. I got sick coming off cycle and ended up losing a significant portion of my gains.

I didn't know what I was doing and used way too much gear for this cycle. Nevertheless, gains were great, yet unsustainable afterwards.

2nd Cycle:

Test Cyp. at 500 mg/wk x 12 wks. Got good strength gains and maintained a body weight of around 180 while maintain ok speed. I was bobsled/track athlete at the time. No real sides except for higher sex drive.

3rd

Test enanthate 400 mg/wk and tren. enanthate 200 mg/wk x 12 wks. This was a good cycle. I had just moved to a new city for school, and this cycle helped me to get back into training hard. This was my first time using tren enanthate, and I definitely noticed increased irritability and aggression.

4th

Test cyp and tren enanthate @ 400 mg/wk & 200 mg/wk x 14 wks. Again got decent results. Was able to maintain around 180 but leaner. Side effects: nothing significant.

5th

Test cyp and tren enanthate @ 250/200 mg/wk, and later 300-400 mg/wk of total gear intake. I was on this regimen for > 6 months. This was a weird time in my life as I had just started dancing, and my lifestyle sucked. I'd always be high, party lots, school fulltime, had a crappy diet, but trained hard. Aesthetically, I was probably in the best shape of my life w/ this cycle. BW was around 165. I used the gear to maintain my build despite my crappy lifestyle. Sides: I was very confident, I started dating my gf towards the end of this cycle, and she said I was an a-hole to her. In addition the post cycle recovery from staying on for so long was very tough.

6th

Sustanon mix at 600 mg/wk x 8 wks w/ 2 x 2 wks of M1-Ts to kick things off. Test only cycle. I ate a lot didn't do any cardio, didn't dance a lot, and just started working. Was doing lots of overtime so my diet wasn't great, but still trained a fair bit. Peak weight was low 180s. Looked soft as test only makes me retain water more than I like. Strength was great.

Sides: very high sex drive. The M1-Ts made me feel off after a while...

7th

My last cycle was great: test/tren @ 250/200 x 12 wks w/ 2 wks of 50 mg PO daily winstrol at the start. This cycle was done over this last summer when I have lots of stagettes, and was designed to help me stay lean and hard while still get bigger. Weight peaked at 180. Strength was at an all time best w/ PBs in deads, incline dumbell press, weighted dips/chins, bent over one arm rows, and full squat. I felt great on this cycle, and had a lot of confidence at shows and women responded accordingly.

Sides: Had issues w/ my pectoral tendons from lifting too heavy. I've heard winstrol is notorious for negatively affecting connective tissue, so I'm not sure what happened. The PCT for this cycle for whatever reason wasn't the greatest either...but I'm back to normal now. Have been able to maintain strength for the most part while body weight has shifted back to 170.

I've also experimented w/ clen here and there, but the stuff I have right now isn't anything special.
 

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Thanks for the input dude. I've only toyed with the small stuff. I lifted for 2 years extremely dedicated in the kitchen and gym before I even touched protein powder. I didn't touch a piece of wheat or dairy for 8 months straight to help and get a super low bodyfat. I haven't touch above 8% the past 3 years now. Hell even in November and Decemeber when I add pizzas and tacos to my diet I make sure they are free of trans fat and shortenings. So I never really have a time where I let it all go.

1st time, 20mg Var in the morning with breakfast,20mg 1 hour before workout. 8 weeks. Gained 4lbs of solid muscle after everything was said and done. I noticed sometimes in the gym I was able to push out an extra set at the end of my workouts. No side effects that I noticed at all. 4lbs may not sound like a lot,but when your bodyfat is near 6% every pound shows.

2nd time, 20mg Var 20mg Whiny in the morning with breakfast. 8 weeks. I don't know what the f happened but my strength went through the roof 2nd day on it. Everything was higher then it used to be,and it just leveled off from the initial gains that I saw. Gained just over 5lbs 3-4 months down the line. Also I think I was hitting 3% bodyfat during workouts,it was to the point were I was thinking it was getting groce,I know the strength and extra leanness was due to the Whiny. My shoulder joints started hurting and felt like they had too much pressure on them non-stop during shoulder workouts,I think this was due more to the added weights on every set more so then the heresy you hear about Whiny toying with your joints. Also non matter how much I drank I could never get my pee perfectly clear,it was never an issue with Var only. I'm wondering if the added leanness and strength was worth the cost of the added side effects that I never had an issue with on Var only.
 

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You're obviously a lot more dedicated than I am... and it seems our goals are different. I'm the kinda guy who needs to train for something or a concrete goal, whether it be athletics, strength or looking good for shows. Its highly commendable for you to have that kind of motivation especially w/ respect to your diet.

To me strength training and throwing heavy chunks of metal around is stress relief. You couldn't pay me enough to compete in a bodybuilding competition. I have thought about fitness modeling after I finish dancing, but there really isn't a huge market for it here unless you're elite.

I've never used anavar, and don't think I ever will. Its expensive stuff, and I simply cannot justify blowing money on it. Not sure if I'll use winny again... I really didn't like the feeling of almost having my pectoral tendon rip when pressing a couple of 105 lb dumbells.
 

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Fuglydude said:
I've never used anavar, and don't think I ever will. Its expensive stuff, and I simply cannot justify blowing money on it. Not sure if I'll use winny again... I really didn't like the feeling of almost having my pectoral tendon rip when pressing a couple of 105 lb dumbells.
Yeah that's true about Var being expensive but I have no doubt in my mind from what friends have told me(who've used it) and 1st hand experiences that there is nothing safer. While you may not go nuts in the gym on it,it provides a slow,steady stream of enhancement that almost seems natural. True you can get Whiny,Dbol and such for 1/2 the price but I don't really feel like messing with my test level that much at this age,especially when I don't really have a problem shaping my body as is.

Yes yes,also on Whiny it felt like my muscles were going to explode sometimes,but I loved the feel,but I also lift a minimum of 8 reps and have no desire for strength,pretty much eliminating risk of injury.
 

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Guys please discuss anabolics in PMs. We can't have kids coming here looking for quick solutions and reading about the benefits of AAS ;)

The way I see it is if you've put in the time in the gym and in the kitchen(at least 3 years, preferably closer to 10) then sure, do what you want, you've earned your stripes.

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