Tenacity Is Opting Out Of V-Day 2017

[BlueAlpha1]

Or you could really teach these chicks a lesson and go "MGTOW"!

I get what you're saying about some MGTOW guys. The virgin neckbeards like Matt Forney or whatever, but I do think for some it's a little more than that.

MGTOW can be a man who has been desirable to a woman or many women before, but got burned too many times and is just struggling with the will to continue to play by these rules.

I think MGTOW can also mean just defying societal norms. For instance, my mother didn't get jack for this holiday except my company for a while this afternoon. Meanwhile, her husband spent $105 to have flowers delivered and her 86 year old father bought her a dozen roses also. I have explained to her why this is a stupid holiday and that I will not tolerate any b*tching about not having a red carpet rolled out for no reason when men never get a similar holiday. And because of these boundaries she didn't make a big deal out of it, but if her husband had forgot to send roses, oh man. MGTOW can just be another way to say unplugged.

But once again, I understand it's also used by 34 year old virgins living with their mothers.

 

[Von]

Went to dance school and danced, passed my dance level exam.

All the girls I like at my dance school were there.... some where really happy to talk to me, I didn't make any move per say.... one of the girl I like we had a good talk... and she stick to me when talking like its our zone. Her who is still a teenager (under 18) is getting a real beauty (told her that I am confident she'll be a beauty when at 18 lol... maybe awkward but she flirts with me alot lol)

All the girls are noticing my body shape improvements and muscle and they compliment my dancing.

So
1) Girls talked to me more today
2) Dancing improving
3) Body shape improvements are getting noticed and I see attraction
4) I can't give a crap about women right now cause I got too much damn stress and duties about my business right now.... so I act distant and beta
5) Happy Valentine everyone, being in a couple is overrated but if you see a girl you like alone on st-valentin... your chances increased by 50% that she's available

 

[bigneil]

Yeah but good behavior is what? Calling you back? Texting you good morning?

What is the girl doing that's so "good"?

- If the chick helped you solve a problem you were having in (insert any area here) then I would understand.

- If you were DOWN and out, then the chick came to your rescue, then I would understand.

NO, women never act like men!

Good behavior is her initiating, her reaching out and her eagerly accepting your invitations for dates (which you know from past experience will be chock full of sex). Women aren't going to shine your shoes and pay for your college.

 

[Tenacity]

NO, women never act like men!

Ummmmm......

Good behavior is her initiating, her reaching out and her eagerly accepting your invitations for dates (which you know from past experience will be chock full of sex).

These are just very low expectations. Good behavior has gone from women being loyal, supportive, cooking, cleaning, fighting by your side, etc........to now just responding to a text message. To now just answering your phone calls.

Women aren't going to shine your shoes and pay for your college.

Bullshyt Neil, you better call RAY RAY and POOKIE. Black women with PhDs and Master's Degrees are buying this dude cars, paying for his degree, fixing up his resume, letting him live rent free, washing his a.ss, bathing him, cooking, cleaning, etc., etc., etc., etc.

I want the motafvcking RAY RAY and POOKIE treatment from bytches from now on. RAY RAY and POOKIE don't pay for dates, the bytch pays their date! So if you can't beat them, than join them! Tenacity is about to start doing some RAY RAY and POOKIE shyt.

 

[Bible_Belt]

My plate winner of the day brought over a big salmon fillet and cooked me dinner (thank you, food stamp program.) She also left a few beers here. That was one marathon of a blowj0b. You know the girl likes you when you are the one who stops her from sucking your d!ck any more.

 

[zekko]

My girlfriend was telling me about all the "stupid men" she saw rushing around buying candy and flowers at the last minute yesterday. Part of her point was that they waited until the last minute, but I also think there was a part of her that realized the ludicrousness of it all, and appreciated that I didn't make a big deal out of the holiday. As counterintuitive as that may seem.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

My girlfriend was telling me about all the "stupid men" she saw rushing around buying candy and flowers at the last minute yesterday. Part of her point was that they waited until the last minute, but I also think there was a part of her that realized the ludicrousness of it all, and appreciated that I didn't make a big deal out of the holiday. As counterintuitive as that may seem.

This is exactly it. It's a falsehood. Making an effort on one day of the year that you're 'supposed' to. It's about as blue pill as it comes. Absolutely no spontaneity whatsoever. Making these efforts sporadically throughout the year will have a far greater effect than the predictability of Valentine's Day.

Women are just as bad in a different way. As I went on my usual journey home last night, the number of single-looking chicks that stared at me longingly as I walked past was quite absurd. Again it's like one night of the year that they realise that yes, they are basically alone, and maybe their standards and expectations of men are far too lofty; feminist ideologies temporarily out with the bath water.

That being said, making a bit of an effort in a fun and humourous way can be beneficial. Probably the hottest chick I've ever dated received this card from her now husband. She loved it, as did all her friends. As you see, she's wearing red varnish for the occasion. This guy gets it.

 

[bigneil]

Good behavior has gone from women being loyal, supportive, cooking, cleaning, fighting by your side, etc........to now just responding to a text message.

No, women were those things for one man who took her virginity and paid her every expense.

They didn't just walk around acting that way to everyone in advance (no sex without marriage for one). Why do you think Arabs perform genital mutilation? Why do you think men have certain types of sperm to build walls and kill other sperm? It's been one big orgy since the beginning of time, but suddenly you want to increase your demands.

All a girl can be expected to do these days is INITIATE a text conversation and then to eagerly agree to whatever plans we suggest. That's all I ask. That and she be the hottest girl I ever saw.

 

[zekko]

Making an effort on one day of the year that you're 'supposed' to. It's about as blue pill as it comes

It's also unimaginative, supplicating, and pedestalizing.

Why do you think men have certain types of sperm to build walls and kill other sperm?

Those are beta, mate guarding sperm.

 

[bigneil]

I only had one girl send me a valentine, and it was my favorite girl, so I was happy.

If it didn't mean anything, shouldn't every girl have sent one?

Seriously, the new trend here is denying that love and sex and initiation mean anything. I know one thing: those things mean something when you are 46 and she is 21. They mean something when she's your dream girl and greatest lover. You guys need to find hotter, younger women and you'll start caring again, trust me.

 

[zekko]

Seriously, the new trend here is denying that love and sex and initiation mean anything

I was thinking something along those lines the other day. Everybody (men and women) wants to act so high value, so confident, like they have so many options, and don't have any needs. Like they are the prize and everybody else is beneath them.

That's how people are being told to act these days, and the result is most people are just cold, man. If you can bring a little warmth in, I think it would be appreciated.

 

[AlphaNate]

Hey any of you guys want to do a "Tenacity Fun Challenge"? lol

- Between today and the end of February, setup 3 - 10 dates with chicks

- Have them "meet you" somewhere at like a Restaurant, Movie, etc., that requires her to drive at least 30 minutes AND requires her to "dress up a little"

- Continue to tell her you are on your way, to stay right there in the lobby.......

- Then don't show up

- Let that bytch text and call you pissed off like, "Tenacity, where are you? Helloooo? Tenacity! WTF is going on??"

- Let that bytch suffer from the embarrassment of sitting all dolled up like a fvcking beauty Queen in a Movie Theater lobby or a Restaurant lobby....waiting for you to show up.

- Go COMPLETELY GHOST on that bytch, don't answer any phone calls or text messages. Never even communicate with that bytch again. If you met her on POF, BLOCK her. Let her log in and see that you blocked her

Who is down to do this shyt lol? You might say, "Hey Tenacity, WTF? What's the point of this shyt?" Well, quite simply, it's just to BOOST our Egos gentlemen . Just like fat, sloppy, 3 kid having bytches log into OLD to boost their ego....how about we FVCK with some bytches by flaking on some dates? I hate to compare us to fat, sloppy bytches with 3 kids, but I just wanted you to understand the analogy lol.

You have to prove you did this though by using PhotoBucket and posting the text conversation. Today I've already CANCELLED on two bytches, one bytch is about to get completely FLAKED ON, and then another bytch I will cancel with at about 5:00 p.m. using the excuse of "they still have me slaving away here in the office".

Fvck these bytches, time to give them some of their own medicine.

You're a bad person lol

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

I only had one girl send me a valentine, and it was my favorite girl, so I was happy.

You may have other girls, but by the very virtue of having a favourite, you will treat her far differently to the 'others', even if you don't realise it yourself. But good for you for being happy; the others don't really matter in that sense.

Seriously, the new trend here is denying that love and sex and initiation mean anything.

As I wrote only earlier on the IDTG's thread about 'going ghost between dates', everything is relative; though herein, because we are men, and as I keep highlighting over and over again, we mistakenly seek black and white answers to every consideration.

Modern men have been conditioned to think like women; that is over-analyse every scenario. Everyone wants a foolproof plan of action, or method, or definitive theory to a problem. This is what the game started out as; do a, b and c; get results x, y and z. That's not really how it works in the big wide world. At least not anymore.

Even traditional 'PUAs' are not the 'artists' they think they are. They are acting more like 'pick up scientists'.

Since when did art have any hard and fast rules. Pretty much all you need as a true artist, are a few general concepts, techniques and materials, apply plenty of imagination; then off you go.

Anyway, I digress. The point being, adherence to hard rules and black and white thinking is antiquated at best. For true success in future, being able to think and act dynamically and imaginatively on the fly will bring ultimate rewards in the new hi-stimulation age.

 

[bigneil]

I would argue that there are ONLY three things a woman can provide a man:

1) Initiation - this is the core of the relationship. Her initiating with you. Stop texting her and see how long it takes her to reach out. She went cold? That means she stopped initiating.
2) Sex - this is her bottom line, Gold standard end game. In the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
3) Love - this is an emergent property based on sex + chemistry + resources (which she will see as courting and generosity). Love is nothing more than her interest level reaching 100% - where it will always ricochet back down (see Beware the After Effects in Art of Seduction).

Working example - On Valentine's day, with my having avoided her all weekend, my girl sent a text wishing me a happy valentine's day (She initiated). Now with the green light, I sent her a photo of a romantic getaway and got her to promise to meet me there (She promised sex). Then she sent hearts (She showed she is feeling love in this moment). IMO that is as good as it gets (items 1, 2 and 3) assuming she is your dream girl.

So, dating is simply a man trying to maximize the above 3 from the hottest possible women, with each being a reflection of her interest level (which is a moving target that requires indefinite re-seduction to maintain).

 

[Tenacity]

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You're a bad person lol

Hey, you down to try it with me bro . Come on don't be a chicken bro .

All a girl can be expected to do these days is INITIATE a text conversation and then to eagerly agree to whatever plans we suggest. That's all I ask. That and she be the hottest girl I ever saw.

And we wonder why women bring NOTHING to the table other than sex and companionship. We as men don't ASK nor REQUIRE for more.

Women on the other hand want guys to be 6 foot tall, 12 inch dyck, $100k a year salary, drive a BMW, have a $300k credit limit, be able to make her laugh like Chris Rock, be smooth like Justin Timberlake, be ripped like The Rock, and fvck her like a Porn Star. Also add in having this awesome ability to "HANDLE HER bullshyt".

I would argue that there are ONLY three things a woman can provide a man:

1) Initiation - this is the core of the relationship. Her initiating with you. Stop texting her and see how long it takes her to reach out. She went cold? That means she stopped initiating.
2) Sex - this is her bottom line, Gold standard end game. In the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
3) Love - this is an emergent property based on sex + chemistry + resources (which she will see as courting and generosity). Love is nothing more than her interest level reaching 100% - where it will always ricochet back down (see Beware the After Effects in Art of Seduction).

But Neil I just pointed out to you how RAY RAY and POOKIE are getting far more than that. They are getting:

- Free Rent
- Free Food
- Free Clothes
- Free Shelter
- Get To Sit Around Playing XBox All Day While She Works

- They also get worshipped on her social media with the chick posting pics of the bum talking about how he's a KING.

RAY RAY and POOKIE require more, thus they get more. Guys like you and me Neil have our shyt together and don't require more, but my point is that we need to START requiring more.

RAY RAY and POOKIE get all of this shyt, while we settle for being happy over a text message? Or a phone call? Fvck that lol.

 

[Von]

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Hey, you down to try it with me bro . Come on don't be a chicken bro .



And we wonder why women bring NOTHING to the table other than sex and companionship. We as men don't ASK nor REQUIRE for more.

Women on the other hand want guys to be 6 foot tall, 12 inch dyck, $100k a year salary, drive a BMW, have a $300k credit limit, be able to make her laugh like Chris Rock, be smooth like Justin Timberlake, be ripped like The Rock, and fvck her like a Porn Star. Also add in having this awesome ability to "HANDLE HER bullshyt".



But Neil I just pointed out to you how RAY RAY and POOKIE are getting far more than that. They are getting:

- Free Rent
- Free Food
- Free Clothes
- Free Shelter
- Get To Sit Around Playing XBox All Day While She Works

- They also get worshipped on her social media with the chick posting pics of the bum talking about how he's a KING.

RAY RAY and POOKIE require more, thus they get more. Guys like you and me Neil have our shyt together and don't require more, but my point is that we need to START requiring more.

RAY RAY and POOKIE get all of this shyt, while we settle for being happy over a text message? Or a phone call? Fvck that lol.

I would add... Available all the time, 100% 100% at her whimps.

Crazy, when you say to girls, you work all the time... conversation ends basically there lol. But how can you be all the above without working first

 

[Tenacity]

I would add... Available all the time, 100% 100% at her whimps.

Crazy, when you say to girls, you work all the time... conversation ends basically there lol. But how can you be all the above without working first

YES....that's another point bro lol.

- I've had chicks get pissed off telling me "I work too much" many times before!

- This being the SAME chick who tells me that she left her prior dude, for not having enough "ambition"

Dude when I tell you guys that these chicks are OUT of their god damn minds....I'm not lying to you lol.

 

[bigneil]

Why on Earth would I want rent, food, clothes or shelter (redundant under rent unless you mean a tent in the back yard) from a woman?? My rent costs $1200 a month. I earn $2000 a day currently. I can pay my entire monthly expenses in one day.

I care as much about a woman's money as they care about me wearing false eyelashes.

Those are not DJs, those are pimps. Granted, they are doing something right, but I genuinely have no interest in having girls buy me stuff. I prefer to err in the direction of their being younger, hotter and more deeply in love. You think I'd trade my 21 year old HB9 for a 30 year old HB7 with a spare bedroom?

 

[Tenacity]

Why on Earth would I want rent, food, clothes or shelter (redundant under rent unless you mean a tent in the back yard) from a woman??

Because these are benefits other men are getting.

I feel like FORD Motor Company during the Auto Crisis. Do I need a bailout? Hell no. But if these other motherfvckas are at the table getting SHYT handed out to them, then you damn right, I want a handout as well.

Those are not DJs, those are pimps.

I don't care what label from the Manosphere they are, the bottom line is if RAY RAY is getting free rent then I'm going to expect the same shyt. If RAY RAY is getting free food, I want the same shyt.

I'm not about to accept 1/10 of the benefits that RAY RAY gets. So RAY RAY gets:

- Sex and Companionship
- Worshipped by his girl on Social Media
- Free Rent
- Free Food
- Free Money
- Gets To Use Her Car
- Free Shelter
- And gets bailed out of jail whenever he goes there

But TENACITY only gets: Sex and Companionship? Nothing else? Nooo that's bullshyt.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Because these are benefits other men are getting.

I feel like FORD Motor Company during the Auto Crisis. Do I need a bailout? Hell no. But if these other motherfvckas are at the table getting SHYT handed out to them, then you damn right, I want a handout as well.



I don't care what label from the Manosphere they are, the bottom line is if RAY RAY is getting free rent then I'm going to expect the same shyt. If RAY RAY is getting free food, I want the same shyt.

I'm not about to accept 1/10 of the benefits that RAY RAY gets. So RAY RAY gets:

- Sex and Companionship
- Worshipped by his girl on Social Media
- Free Rent
- Free Food
- Free Money
- Gets To Use Her Car
- Free Shelter
- And gets bailed out of jail whenever he goes there

But TENACITY only gets: Sex and Companionship? Nothing else? Nooo that's bullshyt.

Agree. You need more than pookie gets