Evening guys looking for some advice on what too do next. Been out on 6 dates with girl over the last 5 weeks and still no sex, the dates have consisted of 2 dinners 1 she has paid for crazy golf etc. Im just wondering if i am wasting my time here she contacts me first most of the time and also hasn't flakes once. We get on good when we are together but she wont put out, says she will let me know when she is ready and doesn't want us too be just about sex she holds my hand when we are out and wants too kiss cuddle etc never had a girl wait this long so out my territory thats why im puzzled. Im spinning other plates but not sure if i should just next this 1 altogether what do you guys think?
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Tictac
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If you've got other women going, what does it matter? If you're not putting too much time, effort and money out and you want to 'play, then play.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Some girls have more asd than other's but if it has been twice and you have gotten absolutely nothing then it is your call to move on or not. I personally would move on and spin my other plates. She will take this withdrawal as a sign that she needs to put out or she wont get your attention anymore.
CuddleJunkie
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Are you beta signaling to her bro? Maybe she is deeply hurted by some pump and dump on a crush of her?
If the first, next, for you will not be able to get out of the beta category.
If the second, next, for even if she percieves as an alpha, she perceives you as less alpha than her hypothetical crush.
This are the options I see, maybe there are more. Who knows. What are you looking for in this girl anyhow? Another notch? Another plate? If the notch, put with it, for even if she thinks you are beta, maybe she is looking for a beta to control right now in her dating life, she should give you access to her pvssy after some time. If a plate, next, for the reasons I gave before.
If the first, next, for you will not be able to get out of the beta category.
If the second, next, for even if she percieves as an alpha, she perceives you as less alpha than her hypothetical crush.
This are the options I see, maybe there are more. Who knows. What are you looking for in this girl anyhow? Another notch? Another plate? If the notch, put with it, for even if she thinks you are beta, maybe she is looking for a beta to control right now in her dating life, she should give you access to her pvssy after some time. If a plate, next, for the reasons I gave before.
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Should have massaged her, told her to close her eyes and lay on her stomach, and then get her down to bra and panties...start massaging normally, then lower back, then butt, then under her panties bare butt, then go back up her upper back, around the outside of her breasts, then go back to butt and over her panties start running your finger along her pvssy...she will be so turned on if you do this right there will be no resistance and in fact she may pull your pants down and start sucking your d!ck...
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She's serious. Wants to make sure you want to be with her for other reasons than just pvssy.
My girlfriend did that, I waited 2 months. But I really did like her for other things, so I got patient. Was worth it, but I did find it unnecessary for me to have to prove it. Eventually she realized it's gonna happen anyways, I'm not going anywhere else (in truth I would have if I had to wait just one more week).
In any case I found it to be the type of decision you have to personally make based on how long you can tolerate that situation. We can't tell you when you've had enough, that's something you feel yourself. If you can't make a decision right now, then at least set a deadline. If there's no fvcking before the deadline you deem it hopeless and move on. You need a limit so you don't become trapped in false hope, thinking "next time it might happen". That's how people with gambling problems think, they tell themselves "next one could be a huge win".
My girlfriend did that, I waited 2 months. But I really did like her for other things, so I got patient. Was worth it, but I did find it unnecessary for me to have to prove it. Eventually she realized it's gonna happen anyways, I'm not going anywhere else (in truth I would have if I had to wait just one more week).
In any case I found it to be the type of decision you have to personally make based on how long you can tolerate that situation. We can't tell you when you've had enough, that's something you feel yourself. If you can't make a decision right now, then at least set a deadline. If there's no fvcking before the deadline you deem it hopeless and move on. You need a limit so you don't become trapped in false hope, thinking "next time it might happen". That's how people with gambling problems think, they tell themselves "next one could be a huge win".
Tried the massage kissing neck technique never worked lol
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
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I once waited 5 months to sleep with a guy. I wanted to sleep with him from the very first date lol, but I knew I deep down I wouldn't like how I would feel afterwards if I did. I had to make sure he was completely devoted and not just after sex. Your girl is doing the exact same thing.
Too many times us women have done the 4 or 5 dates, slept with the guy, and then he bounced. She's just being cautious and I don't blame her. If she's initiating, holding hands, cuddling, kissing, etc., she's very much into you. If you just want to have sex with her let her go.
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You are totally right, that's important if you are looking for something that lasts. But women should try to put more tact on this (which this woman moderately does), to not make the man feel like sex it's a gift she gives him sometimes, or making him feel inferior compared to those men who you bang after 4 or 5. At some point it's the woman's job to keep the man, not leaving him with those reasons that time turns into lame excuses.
This warning is never going to stop but: A DJ's main goal is not to get laid at all cost; but real love (if it still exists) appears with time. Making sure if someone is "devoted" doesn't guarantee anything, because the "perfect" time is never going to come.
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What do you want with this girl?
You get sex elsewhere right, but you want sex with her. Why?
That's the question you need to ask yourself.
Women who are worth loving love themselves enough not to screw every man they meet. They don't want to be a notch or a fling. She is showing interest. She likes you. But she would rather not be disposable to you.
So we arrive back to the real question.
What do you want with her & why?
You get sex elsewhere right, but you want sex with her. Why?
That's the question you need to ask yourself.
Women who are worth loving love themselves enough not to screw every man they meet. They don't want to be a notch or a fling. She is showing interest. She likes you. But she would rather not be disposable to you.
So we arrive back to the real question.
What do you want with her & why?
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Take the lead.
Is she a virgin? If yes (or relatively close), I might wait around, but I'd at least be making her reject me every step of the way instead of waiting for her permission. If not, I'd find a girl who's younger with less baggage and/or agendas she's pushing and outcomes she's trying to force.
I'm not willing to wait longer than the guy who waited the least amount of time--in 2016, that's one night (unless logistics are just plain sh1t). If she's cool or good company, I might keep her around in the friend zone.
I'm not willing to wait longer than the guy who waited the least amount of time--in 2016, that's one night (unless logistics are just plain sh1t). If she's cool or good company, I might keep her around in the friend zone.
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Yes, its because you wanted to be in control and use it as a bargaining chip with him, to get him to do your every whim hoping to be rewarded with some pvssy, and it obviously worked because he was a beta chump that would wait because he was afraid of losing you due to lack of other options.
No women will risk losing a man she really wants over sex if she feels he can go out and get it elsewhere. Period. Women only play the sex card with weak men who they know won't leave them or because they don't respect his ability to find other women, not with guys who they know will just get it elsewhere.
You use the word devoted. I use the term pvssywhipped beta.
And then what happens if you find out he is TERRIBLE in bed? You are going to dump him because he can't satisfy your needs after you made him wait all that time...well really, because he had no balls to go for what he wanted and let you make him wait, let's be real...if he turned you on enough you would have broken...all women do.
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Wrong. Women who think a man lacks options and who want to control the relationship do this. They use their vaginas as bargaining chips. If he waits for 5 months, everytime she doesn't get her way, well, there goes the pvssy...because he has already shown himself to be weak and incapable of getting it elsewhere. This then leads down the path of her losing more and more respect for him over time.
So you are going to tell me you'd risk losing a guy you really, really wanted over sex if that was what it took to make sure he didn't go elsewhere? No...sorry, not buying it. That's the type of thing women say to make themselves sound good but in reality they know they will fvck the dude on the first date if that is what they feel is required.
Are you going to try and make me believe you've never fvcked a guy on a first date? I don't know you but I know better than to believe that.
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You aren't very good at it then. I'd spend time working on this, you'll make your life a lot easier in the future trust me.
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I'd bring it up at the end of the next date if nothing happens...maybe say something like
"Well, it was fun getting to know you a little better but I don't think this is going to work out, so take care." And when she says "Why??" Just flat out tell her "I enjoy sex and if I'm with a woman who doesn't feel the same way then I'd rather spend my time around women who do." And then shut up and watch her reaction. She might Fvck you on the spot or she might be like "oh well, blah blah" some excuse...if it's an excuse she simply isn't into you like that and you saved yourself a lot of time.
