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When meeting for the first time?? Not for me, bro.
I don't do push/pull either. I only pull.
"Tell me something about yourself"
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I don't do push/pull either. I only pull.
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If OP is really as good as he says, I would think that he's giving the "He's too good to be true" vibe and I would say not showing a subtle chink in armour and continue playing up the mystery would definitely hurt his chances in finding a quality woman (norwithstanding trash because they fall for this kind of sh!t anyways.)
Keep it short.
To this day almost every woman I have dated says the same thing. I don't know anything about you. The fact is women don't give two figs about knowing you- beyond your job.
All they care about is the emotional grab.
So if you have been leading with C&F then use a more intense emotional response that changes direction for a moment. Use eye contact, pull her in, kiss softly, spin her or whatever bs will get her heart fluttering.
Know where she is at with her comfort level, so you know what you can get away with.
As for what you say, I usually keep it very short and it doesn't actually reveal anything.
If she is persistent then you need to blow up the spot and go with "I love to eat (whatever food) let's go eat"
Start from zero and build back the emotional intensity. Let her con herself into thinking she knows you. When in reality she just knows how you make her feel.
To this day almost every woman I have dated says the same thing. I don't know anything about you. The fact is women don't give two figs about knowing you- beyond your job.
All they care about is the emotional grab.
So if you have been leading with C&F then use a more intense emotional response that changes direction for a moment. Use eye contact, pull her in, kiss softly, spin her or whatever bs will get her heart fluttering.
Know where she is at with her comfort level, so you know what you can get away with.
As for what you say, I usually keep it very short and it doesn't actually reveal anything.
If she is persistent then you need to blow up the spot and go with "I love to eat (whatever food) let's go eat"
Start from zero and build back the emotional intensity. Let her con herself into thinking she knows you. When in reality she just knows how you make her feel.
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Of course not when you first meet.
speed dawg
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"when meeting for the first time" is in the first sentence of the original post.
"Tell me something about yourself".
It's a horsesh!t "question" that demonstrates low social intelligence. That is not how people naturally converse.
Plus, self-reporting is garbage.
You don't learn anything worth knowing about a person by having them talk about themselves. You do that by talking about "stuff" and allowing them to gradually reveal their preferences and opinions about the world.
The nuclear option (always fun) is "That's a horsesh!t question and you know it. Why don't you tell me what you think about..."
You're taking back the frame and showing her how to have a real conversation. Jesus they're hard work sometimes.
It's a horsesh!t "question" that demonstrates low social intelligence. That is not how people naturally converse.
Plus, self-reporting is garbage.
You don't learn anything worth knowing about a person by having them talk about themselves. You do that by talking about "stuff" and allowing them to gradually reveal their preferences and opinions about the world.
The nuclear option (always fun) is "That's a horsesh!t question and you know it. Why don't you tell me what you think about..."
You're taking back the frame and showing her how to have a real conversation. Jesus they're hard work sometimes.
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I didn't realize it was their first time meeting.
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Wasn't our first meeting. Translated from my native language too literally, I meant when I'm just in the earrly phase of getting to know a girl.
Doesn't really matter, anyway. The dynamic remains the same: I meet a girl, get to know her and build some rapport, apply ****y&funny and get her IL to rise very high. Then suddenly this question pops up.
This process could take place at literally the first time we meet or it could be spread out over several meetings, the dynamic remains the same.
By the way, was the word c0cky also filtered out on the old forum?
Doesn't really matter, anyway. The dynamic remains the same: I meet a girl, get to know her and build some rapport, apply ****y&funny and get her IL to rise very high. Then suddenly this question pops up.
This process could take place at literally the first time we meet or it could be spread out over several meetings, the dynamic remains the same.
By the way, was the word c0cky also filtered out on the old forum?
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Sprayarc, your suggestion to tell her you really like dogs is interesting... Recently, when I insisted that the girl had to be more specific with her question before I could answer, she said "Hmmm, well for example do you own a dog?"
Another of her responses was: "Well, what's your motto in life?"
Another of her responses was: "Well, what's your motto in life?"
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Well it was just off the top of my head. I guess its revealing something about yourself without revealing yourself and keeping her wanting more. Otherwise you might seem boring or lacking social skills or something to that extent. Idk.
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Way to intense. Stop taking everything so seriously. You need to lighten up.
Happy New Year Die Hard!
My gut feel on your situation is that you are doing a great job with initial attraction but hitting a wall when it comes to making a real connection with these chicks. They want something more genuine and real from you.
The most charming people are the ones who break down the walls that people have up. They do this by lowering their own and revealing something about themselves first.
http://www.scienceofpeople.com/2013/10/helpful-conversation-starters/
A simple story or anecdote that reveals something "real" about you is all it takes to answer the "Tell me about yourself" question.
My gut feel on your situation is that you are doing a great job with initial attraction but hitting a wall when it comes to making a real connection with these chicks. They want something more genuine and real from you.
The most charming people are the ones who break down the walls that people have up. They do this by lowering their own and revealing something about themselves first.
http://www.scienceofpeople.com/2013/10/helpful-conversation-starters/
A simple story or anecdote that reveals something "real" about you is all it takes to answer the "Tell me about yourself" question.
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Happy New Year to you too!
Your gut is right. It's not a problem in a general sense, when I take the normal route of just getting to know her through a few dates in public places and eventually ending up at her or my place and have sex.
It's more specifically when I try to put that whole process in one night, lol. I got no patience, I guess
. For example, sometimes I meet a girl in social circles a few times, we only say hi or at the most inquire to each other's jobs and then go our own way again coz we're both with other people. But there's that initial attraction, the strong eye contact and lots of smiling... Until finally one day we accidentally meet up in the club and circumstances allow us to fully explore that initial attraction.
So then it's on and I run my game on her. I can make a big impression on girls within a very short time (like spending an hour talking and dancing with her) and create a real intense atmosphere between us. Basically just what we all talk about here, taking her on an emotional ride, making her hamster spin really hard, being smart and witty in conversation, make her laugh very much, applying kino and eye contact, push/pull and all that shait. I just blend it all into a super c0cktail that sweeps her off her feet.
But I guess that's exactly why they suddenly feel the need to see something genuine from me. It's like they suddenly realize that they're on this rollercoaster ride and have totally no control over their own feelings. It engulfs them... Which kinda scares them, I guess. It's like I'm playing Jedi mind tricks on them and they suddenly realize "Wait a minute, what's happening to me? I am not myself anymore, it's like this guy has taken control of me. He makes me feel so good and excited, I love it and want to surrender to this experience... But wait a minute, I really don't know this guy that well! So before I totally surrender myself to him and let him fly me off to wonderland, I should do a final check..." And that's the moment where she looks for something genuine and real from me. It's like I have to pass that test and if I do she will probably ask me to come home with her herself, coz she's dying to get taken by me.
I know this coz I've passed that test many times before and things went exactly as described. But it's like I just knew what to say at those times, while on other days I don't know what to say. So I'm trying to come up with some routine things that will always work. That's what I'm asking you guys for!
Your gut is right. It's not a problem in a general sense, when I take the normal route of just getting to know her through a few dates in public places and eventually ending up at her or my place and have sex.
It's more specifically when I try to put that whole process in one night, lol. I got no patience, I guess
. For example, sometimes I meet a girl in social circles a few times, we only say hi or at the most inquire to each other's jobs and then go our own way again coz we're both with other people. But there's that initial attraction, the strong eye contact and lots of smiling... Until finally one day we accidentally meet up in the club and circumstances allow us to fully explore that initial attraction.So then it's on and I run my game on her. I can make a big impression on girls within a very short time (like spending an hour talking and dancing with her) and create a real intense atmosphere between us. Basically just what we all talk about here, taking her on an emotional ride, making her hamster spin really hard, being smart and witty in conversation, make her laugh very much, applying kino and eye contact, push/pull and all that shait. I just blend it all into a super c0cktail that sweeps her off her feet.
But I guess that's exactly why they suddenly feel the need to see something genuine from me. It's like they suddenly realize that they're on this rollercoaster ride and have totally no control over their own feelings. It engulfs them... Which kinda scares them, I guess. It's like I'm playing Jedi mind tricks on them and they suddenly realize "Wait a minute, what's happening to me? I am not myself anymore, it's like this guy has taken control of me. He makes me feel so good and excited, I love it and want to surrender to this experience... But wait a minute, I really don't know this guy that well! So before I totally surrender myself to him and let him fly me off to wonderland, I should do a final check..." And that's the moment where she looks for something genuine and real from me. It's like I have to pass that test and if I do she will probably ask me to come home with her herself, coz she's dying to get taken by me.
I know this coz I've passed that test many times before and things went exactly as described. But it's like I just knew what to say at those times, while on other days I don't know what to say. So I'm trying to come up with some routine things that will always work. That's what I'm asking you guys for!
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I think you're way ahead of me in game but maybe you're over complicating it
Y not start small. I tell chicks that I Love karaoke and I'm always singing along to myself. so I'm sitting at the lights today totally rocking out to this bad 80s song "video killed the radio star" and I m even doing the "ooh ooh oohs" and I look to my left and there is the most stunning blonde girl I have ever seen in a convertible looking at me like I am an alien. So I feel totally busted and do the eyes front and plant it when the lights change so I can escape. I've got a couple of simple stories like this that I can wheel out. there's a lot of places you can go with this you can go into ****y funny routines asking her if she's a shower singer or go down the emotional path and ask her to what her most embarrassing moment was etc. I use very simple stories like this because I can remember them and it's far more important how you tell them. You think she needs more just add a lot of descriptive detail.
Y not start small. I tell chicks that I Love karaoke and I'm always singing along to myself. so I'm sitting at the lights today totally rocking out to this bad 80s song "video killed the radio star" and I m even doing the "ooh ooh oohs" and I look to my left and there is the most stunning blonde girl I have ever seen in a convertible looking at me like I am an alien. So I feel totally busted and do the eyes front and plant it when the lights change so I can escape. I've got a couple of simple stories like this that I can wheel out. there's a lot of places you can go with this you can go into ****y funny routines asking her if she's a shower singer or go down the emotional path and ask her to what her most embarrassing moment was etc. I use very simple stories like this because I can remember them and it's far more important how you tell them. You think she needs more just add a lot of descriptive detail.
