Tell her I am a virgin?

[Paradox]

You guys are crazy. Here are a few definitions:


Main Entry:
vir·gin, virgin
Pronunciation:
\ˈvər-jən\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French virgine, from Latin virgin-, virgo young woman, virgin
Date:
13th century

1 a: an unmarried woman devoted to religion b capitalized : virgo
2 a: an absolutely chaste young woman b: an unmarried girl or woman
3 capitalized : virgin mary
4 a: a person who has not had sexual intercourse b: a person who is inexperienced in a usually specified sphere of activity <a virgin in politics>
5: a female animal that has never copulated

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/virgin
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Main Entry:
sexual intercourse
Function:
noun
Date:
1799

1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexual+intercourse

 

[legolas]

A Virgin? Really??

Do you know what the real definition of a virgin is?

Apparently not.

A virgin is a woman who has had her chastity under lock and key and has been under constant supervision throughout her teenage years and into adulthood. She has never been touched or kissed, NOT even by herself. She has no idea what her body is capable of feeling and has never felt sexual in her life. Her sexuality has been dormant all her life.

Such women DO NOT EXIST in modern times!! Maybe there's a girl who still has her hymen intact but that does not make her a virgin unless she's been locked up for 18 years and has never watched TV, never been online and never had any friends her age, thus virginity is a myth.

You're not a virgin even if you wanted to be!! Sorry dude

But hey look at it this way. You've only experienced 1 of the 3 orifices of the female body!!

2 more to go :cheer:

 

[Paradox]

Who truly cares about the "definition" of a virgin. We all know the intent that the OP meant with the term.

Thanks Danger

 

[Paradox]

For the most part, I really am not going to be back. So I would like to consummate our relationship this weekend. Should I bring it up. Thoughts?

So you want to give away your virginity that you have held on to for all of these years on a fling? On a girl you may never see again? Seems like a waste to me.

Why not save yourself until you get married. You've waited this long.

Just my opinion

 

[LeftyLoosey]

So you want to give away your virginity that you have held on to for all of these years on a fling? On a girl you may never see again? Seems like a waste to me.

Why not save yourself until you get married. You've waited this long.

Just my opinion

SECURITY! We have an undesirable in here.

 

[Chrispy]

If you give her one to many orgasms, i guarantee it won't be a question she will ask nor will it be one you should voluntarily answer at any time.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

How the fvck can a 26 year old man be a virgin? I just dont get it. I dont even buy the "but religion" trumps a mans urges" bullsh!t argument anymore either.

The problem I have with 'late term virgins' is that they have a definite tendency to make their necessity a virtue. The less able they are to get laid (due to social retardation or simple physical undesirability) the more reinforced the conviction becomes. However the whole dynamic is self-fulfilling; they feel empowered for having "held out" for so long, which then feeds into the "not-like-other-guys" mentality.

This is why the OP is asking his question; he believes that having held onto his virginity for so long is a great selling point for himself. In other words "I'm not like those other guys, I held onto my virginity this long and you are so special a girl that I'll forego this conviction to bang YOU." The assumption is that she'll be so flattered by such an offer she'll reciprocate with all her unbridled lust. Of course the more likely scenario is she'll use this confession as a convenient out of the situation by saying how she could never live up to his expectations. She's not the girl he's looking for. By admitting this, he's essentially saying "I was saving my virginity for the woman who'll be my wife." The covert message is a marriage proposal. Needless to say, this will be overwhelming for the girl.

All that said, and as odd as it sounds, I can appreciate the conviction of saving oneself for marriage. As impractical as it's become, the latent purposes for doing so do make sense. Unfortunately the idea has been subjected to the modern insecurities and inconsistencies of the overly religious. Without turning this into a theology thread, the idea of maintaining virginity has become a hinderance to full maturity, and this is then exacerbated by confused and inconsistent understanding of gender definitions from the past 50 or so years of feminization. The church is no shelter from the Matrix, and if anything, feminization thrives there.

Simply put there are experiences and opportunities for personal growth that only embracing our sexuality can offer. One point I regularly make with respect to AFCs is that at some stage in their maturation they become retarded. I use "retarded" in the clinical sense here; their social maturing becomes held up by their lack of access to new experiences. Most of the time this is due to an inability to see past old conventions they learned in adolescence which halts them from passing to the next level so to speak. The problem with saving oneself for marriage becomes apparent in this.

From my experience in the church, most men I know are either so entirely unprepared for the responsibilities of marriage they tend to hook up with single mothers or they see marriage as an obstacle to their getting to ƒuck and marry at 19 in order to be "legitimately having sex" with no caution or condition whatsoever to whom they marry. Add to this the predominance of weak-masculine, asexual fathers and dominant masculinized mothers insisting on the feminine as priority and the religious AFC cycle continues.

One last conflict that "late term virgins" have to resolve is that in order to get to a point of intimacy with a woman - in order to marry them and thus have sex - is that there is a necessary sexual desire for both people. The conflict is this; in order to get to that pure, acceptable sexuality there is a needed sexual desire that has to preexist. The conflict comes from sorting out what is impure and what is not. Our OP is getting hummers and hand jobs so maybe that's settled. Some 'religious' girl will have anal sex but not vaginal.

 

[orly]

I'm a Christian. I'm not perfect, but then again, who is.

A lot of Christians adhere to a "pick and choose" mentality, and the the call to abstain from premarital sex is one thing most don't choose to follow. I don't judge people on that - no one is perfect - even the Bible says that.

I'm 27, and virgin. Not by choice. I'm don't actively go around trying to get sex, but if the right person and moment presented itself, I wouldn't push it away.

That said, I am spectacularly unsuccessful with women, and the opportunity has never presented itself. Girls have never been willing to give me a date, let alone sex.

Really, I don't know what to do. I've read all the material, I know what I'm supposed to need to know, I've put it into practice, it hasn't worked. I don't really have approach anxiety. I overall like myself, and I have confidence. Just not with women.

In a way, it's like how everything in my life has worked out. Once I experience how to succeed at something, I can replicate it. If I try hard at something, eventually I succeed. Except when it comes to women, it's been a cataclysm of one failure after another repeat ad nauseum, to the point where failures don't teach me anything new - just increases the depression and bitterness.