Tease and withdraw kind of Girl?

[ChaoticGamer]

		That pic looks way to professional to have you snap it without her knowing… I don’t think she noticed, but if she did I don’t think it matters honestly.

 

[member160292]

(I snapped the pic while she was still distracted on the phone)

She was using her left hand to use her phone, meaning that she was likely facing your direction while you snapped that covert pic with your left. You have balls my man! Maybe you creeped her out

 

[Macadellic]

Rental? What do you mean sir, apologize, my English isn’t always strong

It means we have all had fun with her.

We broke in the driver seat.
We adjusted the dashboard configurations to our liking. We have taken her on trips speeding doing donuts bumpy riding over speed bumps and dips.

Lots of high mileage on this one.

And here you are wanting to take full ownership of a vehicle that looks like the street fighter car after Ryu is done with her.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

It means we have all had fun with her.

We broke in the driver seat.
We adjusted the dashboard configurations to our liking. We have taken her on trips speeding doing donuts bumpy riding over speed bumps and dips.

Lots of high mileage on this one.

And here you are wanting to take full ownership of a vehicle that looks like the street fighter car after Ryu is done with her.
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That almost looks like Hank Moody's car in Californication.

 

[Gamisch]

Man I would love a MEGA thread about female psychology. Unfortunately somebody post something interesting, it gets 30 replies and then the thread basically dies, while there are sometimes tons of interesting details to discuss.

Anyway this is such a case. First thing that stands out;

The meeting; tinder. When ever you meet a woman on tinder you can and maybe must assume there are at least some other men lined up. The prettier she is , the bigger the chance she has some 1 else on her radar. Whenever you meet a woma on OLD know it's a temporary situation.

The fall/ the flake
To me it looks like this woman is a great actor( as many women are). Not even in a neccesarily negative way but women are just good at acting during social interactions. She can be mourning her father's death and yet when called upon produce a perfect "Colgate smile " as we call it, turn around and continue crying. Most men cant read between the lines and are unable to tell her true feelings.

You get flaked on, react like a b1tch so she (rightfully) ignores you.

Now ,really important members and lurkers!!; AFTER no contact phase.

First let's talk about what happens during no contact. You walked away . I think Coery Wayne is a dork, but he is right that walking away is the strongest negotiating position one can have. You expressed desire ,but changed your mind . Perhaps you found a better option. Perhaps you were turned off by her_fill in a woman's insecurity _. Anyway.
Time passes by. She maybe really liked you , but the fact you were into her more the the other way around turned her off. Still there was enough attraction to keep her checking you out. Now after 5 months she hopes ( unconsciously perhaps) that you manned the F up and calibrated/improved upon these "minor flaws ". ( you understand GAME better )

If she return after no contact you have to show progress. For all she knows you met 4 women and gained the needed experience to keep her on the leash now.

The reunion after no contact.
So ,she initiated contact. You respond and meet up with her. Now you gotta play it different then last time. Now you will be more aloof , less affectionate and touchy, less kissy kissy and less texting buddy buddy. Now something happened that allows you to look at her like she us "just a girl" instead of the queen of the universe. If you meet her again and you didn't changed these behaviors, she will be gone again.

So to summarize ; tldr. You gotta use a different strategy then the one that didn't work the previous time. Even a new hairstyle/outfit will already will work in your favor. After no contact you gotta be a " different " man! Dont be fooled that " comfortably being yourself" because she knows you and acts friendly will work.if it did, she would be your warm loving wife by now

 

[The Diver]

"As you've seen lately I've been traveling a lot, and a lot of guys asked me out, but I've turned them ALL down, trust me... RIGHT NOW... I don't want a relationship!"

This is F up. It doesn't matter what she says, the bottom line is she doesn't interested in a romantic connection with you. Done!

So, what do you say we keep knowing each other and see where this goes?"

(And in short: ^ "So what do you say you'll be my orbit for few years?)

Your answer should be:Thanks, babe, but it isn't working for me". Done!. Be decisive be assertive, show some bolls.
(Why? Because you're not doing "Maybe, Will see, I'm not sure right now", and so on.)

It's Yes or No, nothing in between.

A really interested girl won't confuse you with all these Bs.

Go hard No Contact, and don't break it again no matter what. She has to come to you. And if she doesn't, so be it. She is not a special snowflake. Move on.

( just an anecdote- I have been at a party and chatted with some girl. I asked for her #. She started monologuing about why she couldn't give me her #. I didn't give an F for all the bs she said and stopped her mid-sentence and told her: " "don't worry about it, all good". Done. Or it's Yes, or it's No, I don't do middle ground.)

 

[Atom Smasher]

When a woman is interested, she will make it easy for you. Anything less is not worth your time.
Either she shows eagerness to be with you, or she gets the heave-ho. You need to cut bait and fish more productive waters.

 

[pipeman84]

Translation: I don't want a relationship with YOU.
So she acknowledges you're a good catch (intelligent, good career) that means the only reason she's doesn't want to be in a relationship with you is that you make her pvssy drier than Sahara sand. In other words she's not sexually attracted to you. Reading the rest of your post I get the sense she's in the hoe phase (met her on Tinder, she 'claims' - yeah right - to turn down the many guys who ask her out, the IG thing). I personally would break off any kind of contact with this one and just ignore her.

HER:
- "But right now I don't want a relationship, I feel I can only give you 50% of a relationship, that's not fair to you, I need to solve this family issues and I'm so stressed about having lost my job"

 

[Gamisch]

When a woman is interested, she will make it easy for you. Anything less is not worth your time.
Either she shows eagerness to be with you, or she gets the heave-ho. You need to cut bait and fish more productive waters.

This.

I Like to compare it with the dreaded street fight situation. Would could should and what happens when you accept the challenge , will only occur when you..accept the challenge . You simply refuse to be in such a compromised position.

A uninterested woman will bring a million possible shyt situations. If you walk away you never have to know and go through all that shyt. If you are curious..then it's on you as a man and you shouldn't complain about her disrespectful behavior; you signed up for that shyt .

 

[ChaoticGamer]

(I snapped the pic while she was still distracted on the phone)

She was using her left hand to use her phone, meaning that she was likely facing your direction while you snapped that covert pic with your left. You have balls my man! Maybe you creeped her out

Her noticing that is the least of my concerns, lol... Apart from being pretty sure she didn't notice (because I'm sure she thought I was texting or something), probably she doesn't even care, Maybe she's even flattered! hahah, she's a hardcore narcissist, and this I assert because there isn't a single day when she does not post at least 1 Selfie to her WhatsApp stories, Red Flag, right?

 

[Dr.Suave]

Op, you are the prize. Act accordingly.

 

[ChaoticGamer]

Man I would love a MEGA thread about female psychology. Unfortunately somebody post something interesting, it gets 30 replies and then the thread basically dies, while there are sometimes tons of interesting details to discuss.

Anyway this is such a case. First thing that stands out;

The meeting; tinder. When ever you meet a woman on tinder you can and maybe must assume there are at least some other men lined up. The prettier she is , the bigger the chance she has some 1 else on her radar. Whenever you meet a woma on OLD know it's a temporary situation.

The fall/ the flake
To me it looks like this woman is a great actor( as many women are). Not even in a neccesarily negative way but women are just good at acting during social interactions. She can be mourning her father's death and yet when called upon produce a perfect "Colgate smile " as we call it, turn around and continue crying. Most men cant read between the lines and are unable to tell her true feelings.

You get flaked on, react like a b1tch so she (rightfully) ignores you.

Now ,really important members and lurkers!!; AFTER no contact phase.

First let's talk about what happens during no contact. You walked away . I think Coery Wayne is a dork, but he is right that walking away is the strongest negotiating position one can have. You expressed desire ,but changed your mind . Perhaps you found a better option. Perhaps you were turned off by her_fill in a woman's insecurity _. Anyway.
Time passes by. She maybe really liked you , but the fact you were into her more the the other way around turned her off. Still there was enough attraction to keep her checking you out. Now after 5 months she hopes ( unconsciously perhaps) that you manned the F up and calibrated/improved upon these "minor flaws ". ( you understand GAME better )

If she return after no contact you have to show progress. For all she knows you met 4 women and gained the needed experience to keep her on the leash now.

The reunion after no contact.
So ,she initiated contact. You respond and meet up with her. Now you gotta play it different then last time. Now you will be more aloof , less affectionate and touchy, less kissy kissy and less texting buddy buddy. Now something happened that allows you to look at her like she us "just a girl" instead of the queen of the universe. If you meet her again and you didn't changed these behaviors, she will be gone again.

So to summarize ; tldr. You gotta use a different strategy then the one that didn't work the previous time. Even a new hairstyle/outfit will already will work in your favor. After no contact you gotta be a " different " man! Dont be fooled that " comfortably being yourself" because she knows you and acts friendly will work.if it did, she would be your warm loving wife by now

This Reply is amazing, and very detailed, thank you for opening my eyes sir! Needless to say, you don't think I stand a chance with girl? Could there be a slight sliver of truth about that she's saying? (No holding my hopes up) but it would be good I think to know what you think since it's clear a subject expert!

Thank you very much for the thorough reply!

 

[ChaoticGamer]

Op, you are the prize. Act accordingly.

True, I’m kind of Rusty. What’s the inner game I should internalize here?

 

[Young OG]

You made many mistakes. Needy, desperate, showing you don’t have options, pushing for a relationship when that’s the woman’s job. She also has low interest most likely because of the above. You came off as beta and she’s just using you for attention. You should have never contacted her again. Move on and date new women and try not to make any of the mistakes I pointed out.

 

[bat soup]

Hi,

This is a follow-up to my last post, but let me try to summarize it quickly here. Met a girl on Tinder, chatted for a couple of weeks (she had some initial resistance), eventually she asked me out! went on date, Kino-escalated well, got kiss, generated rapport, etc. (Maybe was too direct about wanting a relationship), she continued to show interest for a couple weeks, and then things turned sour when I asked her for a 3rd Date, she didn't turn me down, but just ignored my request via text (keep this in mind as this is her modus-operandi), some more days pass, and I ask her out again, told her something sweet, she acts as if I swept her off feet, agrees to date, but the day of, she calls and says she's sick, I REACTED to this poorly, she notices I'm frustrated and won't even READ my messages anymore after this incident, I decide to do a HARD No-Contact.

5 Months pass, I broke No-Contact, out of nowhere she says "You're so sexy in that picture", because of this positive indicator of interest, the next day I continue to catch up and I asked her out, she says Yes. The day of the date she arrives at the venue while speaking on her phone, she sits across me (bad sign I guess), she continues to talk for a bit while I'm silent, then she extends her hand and makes a gesture I didn't quite understand, then she does it again, I understood this time, she wants to hold my hand... I get closer and she holds my hand in a sweet and romantic way. While she continues to speak on the phone, I signal her to sit next to me, she gets up and does it, we're finally next to each other. For the rest of the date I let her do 75% of the talking, she tells me everything she's been up to (family dramas, lost job, bla bla), all the while I continue to escalate, she's 100% comfortable, I go in for the Kiss, she kisses me back...

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(I snapped the pic while she was still distracted on the phone)

Anyways, I feel it's time to end the date, I tell her, "I really like spending time with you, I've tried to date a couple of people, but there's something about you... How do you feel?". She literally goes on a rant about me being the most amazing guy she's ever met, among the things I remember her saying:

HER:
- "Your way of seeing life, the way you talk, there's no one I know who's so refreshing and intellectually challenging as you are, I mean... Yeah, it's obvious you're quite the catch man, I have to be honest!"
- "Career-wise you're a 10 y'know, well, I know you know that! hahaha, I've spoken to friends of mine about you, they don't believe me there can be a guy like you living in this town, I've also mentioned you to my parents, they're also so surprised by how accomplished you are, they're kind of proud I've randomly met someone like you"
- "And plus, you've always been so soooo special to me Joe, I can never forget that"

But then she started her rejection monologue:

HER:
- "But right now I don't want a relationship, I feel I can only give you 50% of a relationship, that's not fair to you, I need to solve this family issues and I'm so stressed about having lost my job"
- "And I promised myself that my next relationship is going to lead to marriage, it will be my last one!, I WANT TO BE MARRIED!, but I also promised myself I will take the time to know my next partner well, even if it takes me 2 years!"
- "As you've seen lately I've been traveling a lot, and a lot of guys asked me out, but I've turned them ALL down, trust me... RIGHT NOW... I don't want a relationship!"
- "So, what do you say we keep knowing each other and see where this goes?"

ME: "It's fine by me, I don't want to rush things either but if what you really want is to be alone, I can back away, I don't want to be a burden to you, I can take it"
HER: "Joe look, If I wasn't interested in You, there's no force on this planet that could make me come to spend time alone with you!"

Then, as she's leaving she grabbed my face, gave me a 3 seconds kiss, then a 2 seconds one, then a 1-second one.

Before this post gets too long I would like to know if you guys think what she says is plausible? friends keep telling me there's another guy in the picture, that I'm not her #1 option, simple as that. I'm really confused TBH, she's really affectionate, she even started the physical escalation this time (After 5 months she acted as if the last date was last week). However, this was on Saturday, later she sent me a text Thanking me for the date, BUT as of Today she's acting COLD again! ie. Last texts I sent her she won't even bother to read! This all feels too familiar, this is exactly what she did right before I pulled the Long No-Contact on her!

I have no idea what the hell am I supposed to do! First time in my life I have a girl like this I can't eff'n figure out! Should I continue texting her when she stops? She's the type of girl who won't INITIATE Texting EVER!
By the way the last text I sent her was a response to a silly GIF she sent me, my response was "Does this mean you want to bite me or kiss me?" (the GIF was that of a dog wearin' a Shark costume)

Sorry for the Long post, Please let me know If you guys think she's for Real? Or what's her deal? I need to know if I should continue to be patient or just run for the Hills?

Thank you!

PS. I'm surprised what a No-Contact can do, she's even spoken to her parents about how awesome I am, lol... I'm not entirely sure but it would seem her feelings for me grew in my absence, but she's strong-willed, she'd rather die than breaking no-contact.

PS 2. Forgot to mention something that's potentially important, I told her to connect on Instagram twice, and she's dodged that request, ignored/changed the subject, it's OBVIOUS she doesn't want me to see what she has in there!

I would just completely tune out everything she says and try to escalate.

If she doesn't cooperate I'd stop talking to her.

 

[bat soup]

If this happens again, just think about donuts or sport and keep escalating whilst she drones on and when you notice that her lips have stopped moving, make some kind of a grunt so that she thinks that you were listening.

 

[Dr.Suave]

True, I’m kind of Rusty. What’s the inner game I should internalize here?

Suppose you have a few other girls that are more or less as hot as her fighting over you. Everything would be different: Your behaviour, your response time, your vibe, etc. You have to act as if this was the case.