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Taylor Swift blowback due to ‘weird, lonely, insecure men’

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I have been a Taylor Swift fan since 2008 (of her music, not necessarily her as a person).

She is an exceptional singer and songwriter, and excellent marketer. I think in the last couple of years she has become arguably the biggest contemporary star of our current time.
She has definitely become the biggest contemporary music star of our era - on the order of the tier just below Sinatra, Elvis & The Beatles, at the level of Elton John, Queen, Michael Jackson, etc.

I don't have quite the respect for her song-writing abilities - there will be no jazz artists covering her songs - as the musical stuff going on is quite basic; what she excels at is doing ad-lib variation vocalization of these simple songs (and she uses the same basic songs over & over). Of course, she is the all-time muse for young women, so I have to respect the lyrics of her material, even if it doesn't do anything for me.
 

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You say she is average looking(I give her a 6.5 her butt and boobs to small for me) but there are dudes that would give their left nut to smash her, not saying I disagree with you but I'm saying there men even on this forum that cannot get a Taylor Swift To me she is not exciting just a skinny chick with a cute face (they are dime a dozen where I'm from)
This is pretty much on point.

I have been a Taylor Swift fan since 2008 (of her music, not necessarily her as a person).

She is an exceptional singer and songwriter, and excellent marketer. I think in the last couple of years she has become arguably the biggest contemporary star of our current time.
She's a great marketer. She's been more popular than Peak Britney Spears (and had a longer peak than Britney) despite not being as good looking as Peak Britney Spears. She's also had more staying power than Britney Spears.

I have been following the NFL for 20 years, have known about Travis Kelce (and have been a fan of him) since 2013, and quite frankly find the publicity these two are getting in the last few months annoying to the point that I immediately scroll past any content online containing either of them.
I agree with this.
 

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Gosh, I can remember going to all-day rock festivals in the '80s for like $16.
Yep!
Even the biggest (Live Aid) - My ticket was £5 plus a £20 donation (£25 total)
Saw Queen during the 'Magic' tour (86) for £13, supported by Status Quo
And a few years earlier, the 'Hot Space' tour 1982.... supported by Heart, Joan Jett, and Teardrop Explodes - 3 top acts, plus one riding high at the time - for £9
Saw Thin Lizzy for £4 IIRC in the early 80s....
Def Leppard - 1987 - £6
Even allowing for inflation, that's WAY below current prices for top acts.
 

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Swift is a product of our dumb, silly society who wants to make-believe Swift is this innocent and flawless woman who has beaten the misogynists that have always taken advantage of her (brilliant PR move by Swift honestly - her dumb fans buy her old albums in HER version that are identical and make her more money).

First, take off the pounds of makeup she wears and she is probably a HB 6.5/10 who most of us wouldn't consider anything special in the looks department. Secondly, her music is either pretentious or just about breakups and she has limited actual voice ability -- B level artist. Lastly, NFL fans like myself are tired of seeing her not because we are lonely or weird but because we are watching the football game to watch the football game. We don't need to see Swift's reaction every time Travis Kelce catches a 10 yard pass. It is asinine.

Add on top of that that their relationship is so clearly fake and phony and 100% a PR move for both of them. Doesn't stop the media and Swift's dumb fans for thinking it is this great thing. When they break up I am sure Swift will have some mega-hit off of it that we will all be dumber for having heard.

And to the guys in here saying Kelce is a "Chad" -- give me a break. The guy is a phony who sold his soul to Pfizer for what he hopes is an eventual career in Hollywood (also why he is "dating" Swift). That tells you all you need to know about him.
 

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Swift is a product of our dumb, silly society who wants to make-believe Swift is this innocent and flawless woman who has beaten the misogynists that have always taken advantage of her (brilliant PR move by Swift honestly - her dumb fans buy her old albums in HER version that are identical and make her more money).

First, take off the pounds of makeup she wears and she is probably a HB 6.5/10 who most of us wouldn't consider anything special in the looks department. Secondly, her music is either pretentious or just about breakups and she has limited actual voice ability -- B level artist. Lastly, NFL fans like myself are tired of seeing her not because we are lonely or weird but because we are watching the football game to watch the football game. We don't need to see Swift's reaction every time Travis Kelce catches a 10 yard pass. It is asinine.

Add on top of that that their relationship is so clearly fake and phony and 100% a PR move for both of them. Doesn't stop the media and Swift's dumb fans for thinking it is this great thing. When they break up I am sure Swift will have some mega-hit off of it that we will all be dumber for having heard.

And to the guys in here saying Kelce is a "Chad" -- give me a break. The guy is a phony who sold his soul to Pfizer for what he hopes is an eventual career in Hollywood (also why he is "dating" Swift). That tells you all you need to know about him.
Without make up and naked Swift is a hard 5 in a Bikini if we wanna be fair. Her butt is just terrible which brings her down to a 4 to me. I like my women with some junk in the trunk lol

No No NO my glutes cannot be bigger than my woman's nope
 

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Not a Swift fan at all but I watch all of those games and honestly don't know how 4-5 two second shots of her reacting to plays would really bother anyone.
It isn't so much “4-5 two second shots” of her, it’s the meaning behind it.

There is nothing wrong with what her and the NFL are doing, but it bothers NFL fans that they are doing it on football time: If they put this display on during the non NFL months, NFL fans wouldn’t care, but when their hype is over shadowing the games, that’s when it’s frustrating for them.

NFL fans think “I tuned in to watch the game, not to see the reaction of a 33 year old woman billionaire where her 6’5 millionaire husband scores a touchdown.

Welcome to Capitalism.
 

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I frankly don't give a crap about the NFL or Swift.

But if you guys are so interested in the game, why not tell the NFL you have an issue with their coverage? Or would that mean you'd have to admit it's not about the game but about making hundreds of millions of dollars?

p.s. I'll leave you all alone so you can continue memorizing your favorite player's jockstrap sizes.
 

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The Taylor Swift-NFL situation has been interesting for sure, and the networks along with the league are making sure to milk every cent out of it. I even heard that during one game, the camera crew saw her eating fries, but couldn’t make out what she was dipping her fries in and Heinz ketchup saw it as an opportunity to cash in and they’re now developing a Taylor Swift inspired fry sauce to make money from swifties. This whole thing with her and the NFL is mostly about profits at the end of the day.

As for the lonely men remark that this reporter mentions, I fall into that category and I don’t give a fu*k who she dates. It doesn’t make me jealous or more bitter over my lack of a love life. Not to mention the fact that I don’t even listen to the genre of music she plays.
 

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Taylor Swift is trash and not good for the world.

One time she gave a 100k bonus to each of her truck drivers.

Imagine throwing money around like that. The power trip. Just change the life of your workers on a whim.

The pleb workers are so happy their rich queen decided to throw them so money.

Imagine being the queen of the western world and you can throw money down to your pleb workers and they will all love you.

Degeneracy at its finest. Taylor Swift is the perfectly example of the degeneracy of the modern world, capitalism, excess, celebrity hype and superficiality.
 

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I have been a Taylor Swift fan since 2008 (of her music, not necessarily her as a person).

She is an exceptional singer and songwriter, and excellent marketer. I think in the last couple of years she has become arguably the biggest contemporary star of our current time.
For women.... not for men. Her appeal is from women. Most guys just rolls their eyes. She is the "sex in the city" of our time. If your girlfriend like Taylor swift, I feel sorry for you. You have a higher chance of getting divorced or her breaking up with you.
 
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Taylor Swift is trash and not good for the world.

Between riding the c0ck carousel, and making fun of her past partners, she's sometimes a misandrist. She is not a good role model. If you tell me you like Taylor swift, you are telling me you are an idiot WITHOUT telling me you are an idiot. Just like saying you like Barbie the movie.
 

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that means nothing to me. sex in the city was probably just as big or bigger than Taylor swift in its time. it spawn multiple movies, quoted and talked about by millions of women. millions tried to emulate the life of those characters by actually moving to big cities, etc.. etc...

but ultimately, it was a hindrance to women in general. it was trash... just like the whole Taylor swift concept.
It is an apples and oranges comparison with a TV show and a pop artist. Loyalty to a TV show can be easily replicated with a TV show that is like the one that was replaced. You do not get emotional attachment to a TV show.

Pop artists might lose influence, but they will always have influence with their fans. They create an emotional connection with their fans that never really goes away. This is why Elvis still has fans.... 45 years after he died. Even though the Rolling Stones are WELL past their prime, they still fill arenas when they have a concert.

Emotional attachment should not be hard to understand... Trump is a great example of someone that has an emotional hold over his fans. The guy can do no wrong as far as his fans are concerned. Heck... he even convinced a couple of thousand to attack the Capitol building, that was some influencial sh1t.

Why do you think these people are paid to give endorsements? Why do you think companies are willing to pay Trump just to 'brand' their products with his name. Trump water, Trump steaks, Trump wine..... Trump doesn't make any of that... he just sells his name to the produces... and Trump's fans will buy it.... same way Swift fans buy whatever crap has her image on it.

Don't mistake the fact that men as well as women are susceptible to emotional manipulation. If we weren't you would see men buying new cars and trucks, filling sports stadiums, mega-churches, and getting into relationships with the wrong women.
 

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Between riding the c0ck carousel, and making fun of her past partners, she's sometimes a misandrist. She is not a good role model. If you tell me you like Taylor swift, you are telling me you are an idiot WITHOUT telling me you are an idiot. Just like saying you like Barbie the movie.
So what... she isn't a good role model.... neither is Trump.

People complaining that a music artist is a 'bad role model' since a cave man stretched a animal hide over a hollowed-out tree trunk and started hitting it like a drum. At one time Mozart was considered a bad influence because he mixed opera with ballet. Jazz, Swing, Rock.... all these genres were at one time considered dangerous. What we are seeing with Taylor Swift is no difference that what we saw with the Elvis in the 50s or Beatles in the mid-60s.

We advanced primates are a strange species.... we both love and hate change... we also love/hate those we look up to. Love and hate are two sides of the emotional decision-making coin.
 

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So what... she isn't a good role model.... neither is Trump.
so you think Taylor swift is ok and you hate trump? need you say more?

I'm pretty sure you probably find nothing wrong in this video also:


Elvis and the rolling stones never made fun of half the population. they were not misandrist either.

gangster rap was once popular... now it's not. so was disco... some things are just bad and will be confined to the trash bin of history.

I think we are done here :)

ps. you actually think Taylor swift is comparable to the beetles and the rolling stones? :) this is like saying the Barbie movie is as good as citizen kane... really? what are you smoking, I would like some.
 
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so you think Taylor swift is ok and you hate trump? need you say more?

I'm pretty sure you probably find nothing wrong in this video also:


Elvis and the rolling stones never made fun of half the population. they were not misandrist either.

gangster rap was once popular... now it's not. so was disco... some things are just bad and will be confined to the trash bin of history.

I think we are done here :)

ps. you actually think Taylor swift is comparable to the beetles and the rolling stones? :) this is like saying the Barbie movie is as good as citizen kane... really? what are you smoking, I would like some.
Calm down bro lol
 

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Calm down bro lol
I had to listen to my middle age female coworker get all excited about scoring Taylor swift tickets for a concert several MONTHS from now. the only thing I could think of was "what are you? 15 years old?" while keeping a straight face and nodding silently hahahhaha

I'm not sure why I am passionate about this subject. it just seems to me society is not in a good spot. things like Taylor swift only exacerbate it BUT people don't seem to get it. it's like feminism. when it first started I'm sure people were like, "what's the issue? women just want equal rights? why is that so bad?" but ultimately it wasn't about equal rights. same with singers/celebrities like Taylor swift. she just a nice woman. "why is she so bad?"

ohh well, yeah... gotta calm down and let the chips fall as they may :)
 

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John Mayer destroyed her, he’s the only one to really bite her back in a way she couldn’t respond to, he wrote a song about her called 21 personalities or something like that, it’s brutal
 

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Taylor Swift is trash and not good for the world.

One time she gave a 100k bonus to each of her truck drivers.

Imagine throwing money around like that. The power trip. Just change the life of your workers on a whim.

The pleb workers are so happy their rich queen decided to throw them so money.

Imagine being the queen of the western world and you can throw money down to your pleb workers and they will all love you.

Degeneracy at its finest. Taylor Swift is the perfectly example of the degeneracy of the modern world, capitalism, excess, celebrity hype and superficiality.
Imgaine getting a 3% raise at best every year and a bonus of only 1K
Not defending Swift but that there is the reality for most people working in middle management in 2024 currently heck some companies don't even give bonuses out
 
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