Talk to me like I'm a three year old

[Zeph]

OK, so I went to the club tonight. I approached about 20 women. I totally failed to get any buy in. This means that my openers failed. I was half drunk (so were they).

I didn't have any canned openers (I didn't plan on going, but figured that since I was there, that I'd do the exercise of approaching anyway). A guy I met tried this:

He talks to the woman nearest us and says "One beer for three introductions". She knows him. Her job is to approach three women for us and introduce us to her.

Woman #1: Hey! Isn't this man a sexy *****? I didn't hear, so I asked what she asked. She told me. She agreed that I was a sexy ***** (social courtesy) And she turned her back and walked away.

Woman #2 is brought right up to me and I asked her what the hell this woman is saying about me. She replies "Meet this guy." I responded (with an attempt at C&F, but acknowledge that that my wit is not quick due to lack of practise). "Geez, what is this? Do you do everything she tells you to do?".

Immediate back turn (a.k.a: No!).

No problem. I spend the evening walking up to totally strange women with lines like "Hey! Are you following me!?", "What kind of trouble are you getting into?", "If you keep staring at me this way the bartender is going to get jealous!".

Now that I'm no longer in play (it's after closing time, I'm home now " the analysis is not good. One drunk woman was hitting on me all night, she's a 6-7, but I'm not really attracted. I want to practise creating initial attraction. Plus, to be honest, that if I had tried to hit on her, regardless of how drunk she was, that I had very weak game. I can accept that. This is my current stage.

Boy did I suck tonight. No big deal. In fact, this was my first honest attempt at the club scene. I'm not embarrassed, I simply recognize that what I tried did not produce the results that I wanted.

I acknowledge that The Game requires a quick social wit that I'm not yet developed. Can anyone suggest my next step?

Thanks.

 

[Mez]

LOL Thats some really funny openers.
Have you tried the bootcamp? At first I thought my skill was above the bootcamp, but I found out real quick that once you get into it...

It really gets you into a frame of mind to develop better game.

 

[bobbob]

i like the denzel quote.

 

[Tomatoes]

Man what matters is you were out there opening. Ok it didnt work. But practise makes perfect. You pick-ups may have been abit corny. Plus you are relying on C+F all the time. Try a diffrent type of approach. Keep it up thow.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You need social proof. Go with a group of friends and start having fun before you hit on any woman. If they see you strike out with another woman before you get to them, your chances go way down. Be selective with your targets. And imo sitting and talking to the 6-7hb would raise your social proof. You don't have to take her home, but a woman will see her interest in you, and that builds your value.

This is good advice as well:

Man what matters is you were out there opening. Ok it didnt work. But practise makes perfect.

 

[GuitarPlayer]

Originally posted by Zeph
Talk to me like I'm a three year old

Awwww, does him want to get waid? Maybe pway wif some girls? Go to the cwub? Kootchie kootchie....



Sorry, but you asked for it!

 

[tosh]

 

[Zeph]

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
You need social proof. Go with a group of friends and start having fun before you hit on any woman. If they see you strike out with another woman before you get to them, your chances go way down. Be selective with your targets. And imo sitting and talking to the 6-7hb would raise your social proof. You don't have to take her home, but a woman will see her interest in you, and that builds your value.

This is good advice as well:

Man what matters is you were out there opening. Ok it didnt work. But practise makes perfect.

Good advice. I thought that having a woman bring other women to us would be social proofing. Do you agree or disagree?

I could have hung out with drunk girl, another good point.

Do you think this has a weekly cumulative effect? Meat market day is every Thursday here. Are approaches rememberd from one week to another?

Yup. I'm going to hang in there. Now that I look back at it and analyse it there actually were some successes. My weakness is opening, once it's open I can move on from there.

I've got to find those boot camps.

 

[Zeph]

Re: Re: Talk to me like I'm a three year old

Originally posted by GuitarPlayer
Awwww, does him want to get waid? Maybe pway wif some girls? Go to the cwub? Kootchie kootchie....



Sorry, but you asked for it!

That is so stupid! You're right. I walked right into that one.

 

[Legend]

are you really 37?

 

[dirtyvibe]

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
You need social proof. Go with a group of friends and start having fun before you hit on any woman. If they see you strike out with another woman before you get to them, your chances go way down. Be selective with your targets. And imo sitting and talking to the 6-7hb would raise your social proof. You don't have to take her home, but a woman will see her interest in you, and that builds your value.

This is good advice as well:

Man what matters is you were out there opening. Ok it didnt work. But practise makes perfect.

it depends, generally ugly guys cant sarge alone but good looking guys can. good looks provide social proof.

 

[backbreaker]

actually you are alot better off than alot of guys here.

37 years old... you are right in the prime market.. old and mature enough for younger women to think is soo hot, and old enough to bang the hot old women as well.. that's why I am staying single until I am at least 35

anyway, I can sum up everything wrong in one word..

desperation

As ass backwards as it sounds, if you go to the club to get women, even if you are very good looking, you will usually fail or will not come out with the type of women you were looking for.

The club scene is all about patience and confidence.

first of all, when I go to the club, and not too often, but when I go, I have to have done all of the work I needed to do for that week.. if any works is not done, I will not reward myself by going out.. that's stupid.

Also, I have to be in a good mood.

And this is just me.. I make sure I have something to do (hint hint) when I leave the club before I go.. so when I go, it's not an ego trip or anything like that, I am going to have a good time, rather it be by myself, or with friends, usually the latter.

If I see a girl that I am interested in talking to, I make sure she sees me first and I judge her body language.. that will tell me if she is approachable or not.> I will never talk to a girl that hasn't taken a look at me first

if a girl likes you she will make it known in little wayes.. keep catching glances, always bumping into you, even as little to turn to face towards you.
If she isn't into you, you will know.

that way, I know when I talk to a girl, if I don't get her number, it's something I didn't do right, and hey, I can live with that, it just that that's the truth of the situtation

I never talk a girl and dance with her while she is on the dance floor.. that's tacky and unbecoming. If I am interested in a girl I will meet up with her when she isn't busy talking to anyone (unless it's her GF's) and when she isn't being grouped by guys on the dance floor.

Even then, I usually make it short and sweet.. I'm there to have fun, not to talk to girls.. she just caught my eye