Taking it slow?

[Warrior74]

Latest update.

She came over tuesday night. We made out, but again she stuck to her guns about only going so far. She would only give me a handjob...and then stopped and said, 'I can't do this if this *grabbing my ***** isn't mine and only mine'. I was like WTF. I didn't even reply to that sh1t. I threw her back on the sofa and pulled her shirt up and started sucking on her tits and rubbing her ***** through her jeans. She got so wet I could feel it. When I went for her belt, and she shut it down again. I had to go to work early and asked her to leave. I wasn't gonna preach or moan or say anything about it. She's been sending me text, but I've been kinda busy so I didn't reply. She was cool at work each evening and we would joke around on break like we usually do but I stopped initiating contact.

I end up seeing her at the pool hall last night and we played a few rounds. She got into an arguement with two girls about something her and her gay friend said to them in the club earlier this week. It was embarassing to be honest, and if I wasn't a regular there they probably would have kicked her and the other girls out.

I notice she goes out a whole lot, she puts on a tough girl and good girl act and I think she is none of those things. I think she goes out alot because she's lonely. She only really has gay friends. It's been my observation that girls who are fag hags tend to have low self esteem. Even worse than AWs. She's starting to call me more and more. I see some major cling coming.

Anyway after a few games of pool and a few drinks she mentions she's cramping, you know what that means, on the rag. She asked what I was doing after pool and I told her I had to get to the gym early and meet some clients. Screw that. She offered to take me to the movies Sunday after I take my daughter home. I told her maybe and she gave me a good night kiss.

I'm still not going to initiate any contact. Going to have a great weekend with my little girl and just enjoy putting up christmas decorations and doing my shopping. Family time this weekend.

 

[Mr. Me]

the moment I grabbed her ass while kissing her she basically hopped up and said she had to go.

Apparently she pulled the same thing on a friend of ours.

And when you grabbed her ass, it meant that you were not so special after all, that you were just like ALL the other guys.

Up until that point, you were being cool, patient and in control of yourself. That's what intrigued her about you. Ass grabbing, on the other hand, is not about maintaining composure.

The reason women hang with gay dudes is because they like being with guys, but they don't want to be hit on. That may have told you something.

BTW, she IS a lush.

 

[BeyondCharm]

And when you grabbed her ass, it meant that you were not so special after all, that you were just like ALL the other guys.

Up until that point, you were being cool, patient and in control of yourself. That's what intrigued her about you. Ass grabbing, on the other hand, is not about maintaining composure.

The reason women hang with gay dudes is because they like being with guys, but they don't want to be hit on. That may have told you something.

BTW, she IS a lush.

She sounds like an alcoholic, and I'm not saying this to be funny. Be very careful around people who drink a lot, especially since you only see a small portion of the time she spends out drinking and stuff. She should probably get into AA and get sober before trying to be in a relationship, people who drink that much tend to be VERY unstable partners in relationships in the long-run. Don't say I didn't warn you. Good luck.

 

[thedeparted]

Let me give you the wisdom of the Dao of Steve

1. Kill all desire
2. Demonstrate excellence
3. Retreat

This girl probably has told herself she will stop sleeping around and get a real relationship. She just has no clue how, b/c all she did were bar hookups. It would have been great if you had agreed to her 3 month rule. That would show no desire and set you apart from all men. Once you conceded, she would then need to fvck you within a week to satisfy her ego and make sure you weren't gay. You'd just have to setup that one so "it didn't count". Like maybe it was in the car, or during work hours, or you only did oral, or whatever the rules are in her head.

However, if you argue the point, you are like all men, and then the ASD shield goes up. Same thing if you grab her azz after five minutes of kissing. Instead of that, keep the makeout going, and let her escalate it when she can't take it any longer. If she breaks to leave, walk her to her car, then do it again outside the car. When she ends that ask for a ride back to your place (across the street), get in, and makeout with her again. I have no idea what will happen, but I'm thinking she might just fvck you after all that.

Point is, be different, have no need, let her pursue. I bet a woman who says she has to wait 3 mo's can't go two weeks. Whether you want this chick or not, though, is another story.

 

[Warrior74]

She text me Sunday afternoon. (Did I mention she only communicates via text, she won't anwser the phone when I call, but will promptly return a text?)

her: The Day the Earth Stood Still?
me: I'm tired from this weekend. I'll pass, raincheck?"
her: I wish you would have told me you were passing, we made plans.

I didn't even bother to respond. I just spent the weekend with two 8 year old girls in tow, putting up christmas decorations, going to playdates and sorting out chirstmas shopping. And driving my daughter 120 mins round trip to her mothers. I'm staring at a 60-70 hour work week and I want a ****ing moment to rest and she decides to have a problem with me being tired? Fock her. I'm not even responding to that bullshyt, much less explaining myself. I take a nap on the sofa.

About 11 pm I wake up and my homegirl calls. She has some movies so she stopped by to watch one. Walking her out the door I see an empty peach nehi soda bottle placed right in the middle of my doormat. Now I don't know if the coworker put it there, but why the hell would it be there? Regardless after that little text exchange and all the other redflags I decided to give up on this one. Next.

BTW I reached my goal with my second job, got christmas paid for without going in debt. And I already put in my notice last week. I no longer work there, but I haven't told her yet.

That ends my experience with dating a coworker. At the end of the day I would say its best to just not do it. If things would have went horribly wrong with this girl, I would have had to deal with all sorts of bull**** everyday on top of going to a crappy job.

Thanks to all the fellas who gave me input on this thread. Some good things to think about and learn from.

 

[Jitterbug]

(Did I mention she only communicates via text, she won't anwser the phone when I call, but will promptly return a text?)

In my experience, it's a clear sign that a woman is juggling men and you're not her top guy. I've even had a few female friends admit to doing it in my presence. I'd see a girl sit there with their chick friends, receive a call from a guy which she doesn't answer, then get a text and they all discuss and laugh at him. Repeat for the next few blokes that do the same.

When I run into chicks that pull this sh!t, I will drop the idea of any possible relationship and just be opportunistic: if I get the chance to hit it, I'll take it, but that's as far as it'll go.