Taking a beating

[Genghis Juan]

hey guys,

been working on my DJ game. Been looking back how I handled a flaky HB9 and keep reviewing the things I F'ed up...it just makes me sooo mad at myself!! A few times during those dates I let her direct the conversation to job interview like questions when I should have lightened things up. Shes 26yo, so I think at that age and beyond, dates tend to be like this with conservative girls.

When she kept deflecting the weekends, I should have just asked her for the F'ing weekdays!! I mentioned, at the time, that I wasn't dating anyone else...she reciprocated but why did I open my BIG MOUTH!!

Now I got this HB6.5 that Im not really interested in, but thinking about dating just for some F'ing practice.

The HB7.5 that I met at the speed dating still hasn't responded to my ****ing email of last Thur. asking for coffee tomorrow!! Why would she give me her ****ing email address if she is not going to respond to my ****!! Maybe, I'll give her a second chance from a different email address, just incase of technical problems, if I don't hear from her tomorrow.

I thought DJ'ing was relatively easy after reading the Bible and crap but its NOT in practice!! Sometimes on a date, I lose discipline, especially if I get excited....I ****ing hate that!!

If this **** doesn't work out....I may just take a break for a few weeks and regroup.

 

[DJnomore]

Simple rule

Have your reserve taken care of first.

Have 2 or 3 girls who like you that you can go out with.
You DO have 2 or 3 girls that like you.
Trust me on this you do.
They may not be girls you are attracted to but you do have a fan club if you look.

Once you know that you are going to have a date for the weekend then its just a matter of with who. Once you are at this point you have an amazing power. Cause when girls say no to you they know you have another girl lined up to replace them.

Don't tell them. They will know. Body language is cool.

If you are in a small social circle its good to have your reserve outside your social circle.

Most women don't know how to rank you based on meeting you. They rank you based on how full your time is and how many women want you. Wether you know it or not your body language tells them this info without your knowledge.

Also start out at a low range say 4-5 and then work up. That way the trend you notice is up not down.

 

[Genghis Juan]

Thanks DJNomore,

Yeah, I was just feeling particularly negative at the time of that post.

You're totally right, I will askout the HB6.5 for Friday or Sat for some practice and etc. Then I will attend another speed dating event to try to net some more in.

I think one of the strategies that I never followed that the Bible and others mention is to practice the 3 C's on women that are 4 or 5's first, then slowly work your way up. I didn't do this because my friend set me up with an HB9!! I had recently come out of an LTR with a girl I had wrapped around my finger, but was really rusty with dating.

Just one thing: If a girl in the reserve wants to take it up a notch, should I just tell her that I want to take it slow right?

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Senor Juan,

Take it easy, calm down. You do have other more productive things that you are pursuing, right? Women or the lack thereof, should not be getting you so angry and frustrated.

It's all in the journey bro, it is part of the flow of life to savored and enjoyed. Don't make the pursuit of a woman such a chore. It is hard work I agree, but instead of getting frustrated, you should be enjoying the game.

Maybe you are not thinking correctly on HB9 because you are thinking things through way too much and not listening to her signals and vibes that she is giving you. Quit listening to your head so much and start listening to the person you are interacting with and respond in kind.

It should have been natural for you to counteroffer and provide her with the option of a 'weekday' date - but you weren't listening to what she was telling you.

If a girl asks you a lot of questions then this a good sign of interest not bad - why do you see it a error on your part?

 

[Lone_raider]

Ahhh, now you see that despite reading the bible, there is no substitute for real life experience!

When I first found the DJ bible I read a few articles and it was like the sun breaking through the clouds for the first time. I actually laughed out loud as here I had discovered everything I had ever done wrong, and why women act the way they do. I had this whole new set of concepts and applied them all at once.....or so I thought. I was supplicating at times, becoming overly attracted to girls and showing desperation, screwing up kiss opprotunities, and failing to number close sometimes!!! Good god, it was like I had read everything and learned nothing!

But after screwing up many times, and going out on many, many dates, I finally began to get things right. Experience is the best teacher, however I needed the bible to tell me what I was doing wrong and the difference in my post DJ bible life is at least I knew what I should have been doing and eventually did it.

The important thing is to get out there and mess up! It's OK, the world doesn't end and nobody wants to kill you lol. And after you mess up several times, you eventually get it right

 

[uniassign]

If this **** doesn't work out....I may just take a break for a few weeks and regroup.

The best thing to do is to reflect and then experiment. One of the best way to learn is to go out and try new things.

If/when the experiment doesnt work, come back here or to another seduction site and ask for feedback. You are guaranteed to get diversed feeback, but that's good because then you can pick and choose the suggestions that suits your style.

The key thing is experiment and never give up.

 

[Genghis Juan]

PRL

thanks guys,

PRL, I was allowing others to influence me and get in my head! My father (really old school) was already telling me that the HB9 was playing games with me because she didn't want to go out with me on the weekends. He was telling me, "You should just tell her, when you want to go out on a weekend call me OK?"

I let that get into my head and it made me suspicious and made me panic. I also have friends who kept asking me about HB9 and either they were giving me AFC advice; like keep trying; be persisitent. Or they were Coward Jerks who were telling me to ignore her and tell her to F off. All of these people were giving me such crappy advice and yet I was kind of thinking maybe they had some credibility.

All of those crappy influences were getting into my head and effecting my game. What I should have done, right when I met this girl, was to come to this site and do my homework and also give you guys info from square one. I would have handled the situation much better.

Anyways, I'm not going to give up, I'll just have fun of course

I registered for another bigger speed dating thing and stuff.

But this site has really been a life changing experience for me. I know its just a forum and crap, but I am so much more outgoing now and I make small talk with everyone that I meet. Thank god for Sosuave! And it really is amazing, now that I have the benefit of this site, how many guys really are clueless about women and the dating game! I mean its not like more than 50%, its more like 70 to 80%. Its almost disturbing! Well...actually, it should make our jobs much easier no?

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Stay with the positive attitude my man, "It's all in the journey". Enjoy it!

 

[Cremasta]

Originally posted by Genghis Juan
Why would she give me her ****ing email address if she is not going to respond to my ****!! .

I thought DJ'ing was relatively easy after reading the Bible and crap but its NOT in practice!! Sometimes on a date, I lose discipline, especially if I get excited....I ****ing hate that!!

Just two things Genghis...
Don't try to work out WHY women do stuff... and... don't get angry when they do.

It's not worth the trouble and you'll be a lot happier about yourself when you stop tying yourself up in knots. Being happier leads to more confidence and confidence leads to more success with women... you'll have that aura of being a fun person to be around.

As PRL says... relax, calm down. This is supposed to be FUN remember?

 

[Genghis Juan]

You're right, sometimes I lose focus on the main objective, which is to just fave fun and forget all the analysis going on in my head.

One of the most valuable lessons I have learned in dealing with the HB9, is to not let friends and family influence you in making decisions on how to deal with women.

Obviously, dealing with people on this forum is very productive because we all have this place as a common reference. We are all familiar with the "gameplan", though we all adapt it for our own individual style. But, most guys outside of this forum, non-DJ's and non-DJ apprentices, maybe 90% to 98% really don't know what they're talking about. They are either AFC's, Bitter Jerks, or just generally useless. To make it worse, these guys spew their advice like its gospel.

The biggest revelation I have come across over the past few months, is just how truly miserable or negative people alot of guys are. They feel that they have no control over what kind of woman they can get. They really have a loser attitude. When I tell them that I want reach my goal of getting the particular girl I want, they always fall back on the hackneyed cliches of

"Looks aren't everything."
"Women always make the choice"
"Girls are crazy, who knows what they want"
"She's out of my league"
"Being single sucks"

When I tell them its BS, they think I'm crazy. I guess that really means I am on the right track