Swipe apps are great for practicing text game and thats about it.

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A good IG / Twitter page with alot of social value will outdo a Tinder account.

ie: I got a friend whos an artist/musician that is basically unknown.. a nobody in the real world, but he had about 5,000 followers on twitter and his twitter was him hanging with a buncha cool friends, at parties with different girls, basically portraying a lifestyle.. that a buncha 18-23 yr olds wanted to be apart of.. They're all hunting for "where the party is at" anyways..

This dude used to get so many beautiful groupies that wanted to hang out with us and just be around.. half of these chicks wouldn't leave.. spending the whole day just in our presence. it was weird.. its like we were the coolest thing ever to them. This crowd was yougner than me, I was already about 26 at the time.. most of them were like 20-23 (Depaul University kids)

Sadly, the dude's moment in the sun ran dry when some chick from his highschool came out with rape allegations, and some other girl or something tagged onto it and it made a huge rift on twitter and he eventually went incognito LOL.. Fuccin guy.

P.s. his music was utter trash..
This is just local micro celebrity sh1t though

yea it works to a degree but as your friend found out being the centre of attention in a very small area will rarely end very well

People in these types of circles get very bitter and very jealous very quickly

Its like the infamous "club promoter" chicks will sweet talk their way onto the guest list then as soon as their in they forget the dude exists

I've seen influencers in the UK with 500K + followers have absolute mental breakdowns because some club rat used him to get in and then went home with another dude :rofl:

I am not a fan of that type of transactional game , tends to bring very toxic people around you

"ill do this for you , if you do this for me"

no thanks
 

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Whenever I've seen other guys "flirt", it has been 100% cringe. I suspect the word means something entirely different to me. Most guys mean "say sexual things", and they do this for a short while and then try to escalate in some way.

Despite my handle here ("Flirt Life"), I've been reluctant to define what I consider flirting - I suspect 99% of guys will have no clue there's another level to flirting. And after all, who am I to claim I can flirt? It's not like I visit SoSuave to flirt with other guys, so there's no evidence of it in my posts.

Best way to flirt with a woman is subtly , she will pick up on it straight away and if she reciprocates its game on
 

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Best way to flirt with a woman is subtly , she will pick up on it straight away and if she reciprocates its game on
Definitely - most guys could use a lighter touch with flirting, removing a bit of cringe. I've noticed humor tends to get a girl to take more notice of me - especially if the joke is one I had to think up on my feet.

I tend to just keep flirting until I drive girls crazy enough to make a move, typically done week after week with warm approach. It's a terrible strategy which I only saw as flawed after reading a couple of Rollo Tomassi's books.
 

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No such thing as text game.
a girl has already decided if she’s gonna give you a shot based on your profile/cold approach and her state of mind.
At that point she just screens to see you are normal and confident
 

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No such thing as text game.
a girl has already decided if she’s gonna give you a shot based on your profile/cold approach and her state of mind.
At that point she just screens to see you are normal and confident

Wrong , girls will bin you real quick if you aren't familiar with the rules doesn't matter how good your profile is

NO girl wants to be answering a question like "how was your day"
 

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I recently gave Tinder another chance

I looksmaxxed the fvck out of my profile 2x gym pics , 1x topless ( 6 pac) and 1 of me out in the wild , i put nothing in my bio ( doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference)

Within 2 1/2 weeks i had around 150 likes i didn't pay for anything so at least 100+ of them i can't see

the algorithm seems to like my profile ( compared to previous iterations) and it allowed me to make make 25-30 matches in a fortnight which i think is high considering they don't actually want you having matches as it means you won't pay

Half of these matches were trash low quality women also looksmaxxing but there were a few that seemed OK

The fitter looking ones i began to engage in conversation my main aim was to just try a broad range of stuff and see what stuck

Its kind of fun because nobody is really on there for anything other than a dopamine hit , there are some absolute lunatics on there and it is funny to crank them up a little.

Some girls were more than happy to give numbers after a bit of banter / flirting and some girls are even happy to do a bit of sex talk

But generally i found once things started to get a bit serious I.E "are you free on XYZ" most just vanished off the face of the earth

I firmly believe most women under 30 who are on these apps have absolutely no intention of going on any dates with anyone and the ones that are over 30 are damaged & fvcking mental

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The good news is the women on these apps will reply the same as a girl you met IRL will makes it a great platform for experimentation without having the worry of ever seeing them IRL

the apps let you try risky stuff out so you know how to move a conversation from small talk to flirting to turning her on

I quickly learned that dead end questions like

" how are you"

" how's you day been "

" what do you do for work"

These are an absolute no go and most women won't even respond , you're definitely rewarded for being creative with the conversation

Don't take them seriously guys , just go and have some fun push some buttons !!
You can interpret this in different ways.

On the one hand, you could say that you did well because you got lots of "likes" and conversations. On the other hand, you could say that given that likes and pointless conversations with random women that lead nowhere were not the objective, that it was a big waste of time.

I find that generally these apps are a waste of time and it seems that it's only getting worse as time goes on. Sure, you might be able to get the occasional conversation with a woman that is talking to 300 other men at the same time, but like you say they disappear as soon as you suggest meeting up because their objective is generally to get instagram followers, to get attention from random men or just to mess around and enjoy playing games and wasting men's time.

Plus, of course, it's generally only the ugliest and the weirdest of women that are on there in the first place (excluding the Instragram hos, that are using dating sites as advertising for their thirst trap get rich quick schemes).
 

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Wrong , girls will bin you real quick if you aren't familiar with the rules doesn't matter how good your profile is

NO girl wants to be answering a question like "how was your day"
a high smv guy with options isn’t texting girls like that anyway
 

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This is just local micro celebrity sh1t though

yea it works to a degree but as your friend found out being the centre of attention in a very small area will rarely end very well

People in these types of circles get very bitter and very jealous very quickly

Its like the infamous "club promoter" chicks will sweet talk their way onto the guest list then as soon as their in they forget the dude exists

I've seen influencers in the UK with 500K + followers have absolute mental breakdowns because some club rat used him to get in and then went home with another dude :rofl:

I am not a fan of that type of transactional game , tends to bring very toxic people around you

"ill do this for you , if you do this for me"

no thanks
nah it wasnt like that AT all.. even before this kid, my friends and I always had all these groupie type chicks.. none of us were musicians/artists.. Its just social value bro. Social value allows you to be able to post a buncha cool picss and videos of you and a buncha your friends doin cool sht.. Young girls are superficial, if a guy has drugs, knows where the party's at, and has a buncha guy friends.. thats all they need to know to want to hang with those guys..

most college students and younger girls who are DTF are always lookin for the party. the more followers you have on social media, the more people will see your content .. its simple sht. tahst why its good to be connected and be apart of circles, especially college circles.

those kids were all Depaul kids mostly.. Depaul University in Chicago is notorious for parties, like almost every night of the week someone or another is throwing parties
 

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Wheat Waffles (YouTube channel) posted a video showing how a “Chad” uses Tinder.

Most of the girls were very direct and didn’t want to waste time chatting. Basic”hey” and “wanna meet” with girls answering yes.
 

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Wheat waffles sounds like a faggot who can't be a day over 25. Stop listening and taking advice from kids. We are men, not boys.
 

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those kids were all Depaul kids mostly.. Depaul University in Chicago is notorious for parties, like almost every night of the week someone or another is throwing parties
There is a great thread about college sex at party schools. While I'm not too familiar with DePaul University, you make it sounds like a party school. Your contributions would be good on that thread. I am curious about DePaul because it is a Catholic university. The Catholic Church considers both alcohol intoxication and pre-marital sex to be mortal sins, which are the highest level of transgressions in the religious.


Colleges with a religious orientation can vary so much on their party and sex scenes.

Wheat Waffles (YouTube channel) posted a video showing how a “Chad” uses Tinder.

Most of the girls were very direct and didn’t want to waste time chatting. Basic”hey” and “wanna meet” with girls answering yes.
Wheat waffles sounds like a faggot who can't be a day over 25. Stop listening and taking advice from kids. We are men, not boys.
Wheat Waffles does put out some good content. He has the most subscribers on YouTube of any black pill content creator.

Wheat Waffles' face is seen in this video.

 

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There is a great thread about college sex at party schools. While I'm not too familiar with DePaul University, you make it sounds like a party school. Your contributions would be good on that thread. I am curious about DePaul because it is a Catholic university. The Catholic Church considers both alcohol intoxication and pre-marital sex to be mortal sins, which are the highest level of transgressions in the religious.


Colleges with a religious orientation can vary so much on their party and sex scenes.





Wheat Waffles does put out some good content. He has the most subscribers on YouTube of any black pill content creator.

Wheat Waffles' face is seen in this video.

So I’m right, dude looks like a 21 year old basement dweller, the fact he’s black pill doesn’t surprise me, look at him.

If you’re uglier than him yes watch his vids you prob need that advice.
 

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As for solution, make money. You don’t need to be millionaire. Plenty of blue collar jobs that pay +$100k/year.
Have hobbies. Sports, not video games! Increase your social circle. Interact with women by simply talking to them (in person!). If you have your life in order, you’re above average and girls will show interest.
Not a solution.

I probably got more money than anyone on Sosuave, I got hobbies, have some married friends, I interact with hot women everyday, can flirt with them with eyes closed.

i have my life in order more than anyone on here. You think any girls gives a f? They take one look at the height (not too short, but I’m not 6’1) and say ”go to hell”. One look.

Money won’t help you gentlemen. Get the height, get the hair, and get her to put out FAST.
 

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Not a solution.

I probably got more money than anyone on Sosuave, I got hobbies, have some married friends, I interact with hot women everyday, can flirt with them with eyes closed.

i have my life in order more than anyone on here. You think any girls gives a f? They take one look at the height (not too short, but I’m not 6’1) and say ”go to hell”. One look.

Money won’t help you gentlemen. Get the height, get the hair, and get her to put out FAST.
You have your chit together, you walk, talk and interact with people as a man who's the king of his castle and you get rejected in real life due to height?! I call BS on that. 100%.
This height obsession only exists among the hoes on swipe apps and those YouTubers who capitalize on men's insecurities for clicks. Say you're 5'6''. You mean to tell me that all those 5' tall chicks tell you to 'go to hell'? C'mon man. There are even women who don't mind being with a guy who's shorter than them, look at Tom Holland or Jason Statham's girls.
 

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So I’m right, dude looks like a 21 year old basement dweller, the fact he’s black pill doesn’t surprise me, look at him.

If you’re uglier than him yes watch his vids you prob need that advice.
I am not sure I would describe the guy as "ugly." I do think he looks very "nice." Non-threatening, basic, milquetoast, etc.

Women want a man who makes them feel on edge. It increases sexual tension exponentially. You show up looking like you're on your way to math class you can sure women will feel that way about you.
 

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I recently gave Tinder another chance

I looksmaxxed the fvck out of my profile 2x gym pics , 1x topless ( 6 pac) and 1 of me out in the wild , i put nothing in my bio ( doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference)

Within 2 1/2 weeks i had around 150 likes i didn't pay for anything so at least 100+ of them i can't see

the algorithm seems to like my profile ( compared to previous iterations) and it allowed me to make make 25-30 matches in a fortnight which i think is high considering they don't actually want you having matches as it means you won't pay

Half of these matches were trash low quality women also looksmaxxing but there were a few that seemed OK

The fitter looking ones i began to engage in conversation my main aim was to just try a broad range of stuff and see what stuck

Its kind of fun because nobody is really on there for anything other than a dopamine hit , there are some absolute lunatics on there and it is funny to crank them up a little.

Some girls were more than happy to give numbers after a bit of banter / flirting and some girls are even happy to do a bit of sex talk

But generally i found once things started to get a bit serious I.E "are you free on XYZ" most just vanished off the face of the earth

I firmly believe most women under 30 who are on these apps have absolutely no intention of going on any dates with anyone and the ones that are over 30 are damaged & fvcking mental

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The good news is the women on these apps will reply the same as a girl you met IRL will makes it a great platform for experimentation without having the worry of ever seeing them IRL

the apps let you try risky stuff out so you know how to move a conversation from small talk to flirting to turning her on

I quickly learned that dead end questions like

" how are you"

" how's you day been "

" what do you do for work"

These are an absolute no go and most women won't even respond , you're definitely rewarded for being creative with the conversation

Don't take them seriously guys , just go and have some fun push some buttons !!
OLD only becomes a frustration when a man relies soley on apps to find women.

It should be part of the "big four" ways to pick up women;
street/spontaneous game
Club/bar game
Social circle game
OLD

Ime women's minds are not that deep. She can swipe right and forgot about it. But if she really likes you tiu can say whatever. She already decided she'll feck you.

Do you have an example of a woman you met on OLlD, and you managed to talk your way into her panties? And do you think it actually that it was because of your mouthpiece?
 

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There is a bird in this video at 2mins 34

she's scraping a 6 and insisting she doesn't like " skinny guys"

At 5 mins there is an actual 5 making demands its hilarious :rofl:

Like literally 10 years ago when i was 20 these types of bang average girls wouldn't have even had a voice or an opinion

they would have taken anything they could have gotten

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the video is interesting though because it highlights just how confused girls / women are

I don't think they even know what they want half the time , they seem to have very vague preferences and then depending on which direction the wind is blowing or what a freinds opinion is they can go red hot or ice cold

You CANNOT take women seriously until you've fvcked them/.
 

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OLD only becomes a frustration when a man relies soley on apps to find women.
I agree it becomes frustrating because men put too much faith and hope into it

If you treat it with contempt ( which is what most women do anyway ) it actually becomes kind of amusing

Like i said at the start you can say pretty much whatever you want to these girls , within a week they will either delete their profiles or unmatch you anyway

Sometimes i send hella crazy stuff just for the fun of it


IRL and social group approach is the only way now , and even then you have to build trust before anything is going to happen.
 

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Wheat Waffles (YouTube channel) posted a video showing how a “Chad” uses Tinder.

Most of the girls were very direct and didn’t want to waste time chatting. Basic”hey” and “wanna meet” with girls answering yes.
Guess i'm a chad
 

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