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Supremo's Workout Plan

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Mk so I worked out back to back (Thurs. and Friday) since I just got back from break... wasn't too bad felt a little sore though on squats.

3x5 @ 235 lb deep squat
3x5 @ 90 lb standing military press
3x5 @ 115 lb power clean
3x8 pull ups

It really feels SO good to workout again. My body feels WAY tighter (toner tight, not sore tight) and I feel more energized.

Quick question, I was thinking about adding a ZMA supplement to my diet. Any problems with this? I've read up about it and it seems like a pretty good thing to have.

Thanks all
 

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Supremo said:
Quick question, I was thinking about adding a ZMA supplement to my diet. Any problems with this? I've read up about it and it seems like a pretty good thing to have.

Thanks all
ZMA is good, take it just before bed.
Fish oil is more important though.
 

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wolf116 said:
ZMA is good, take it just before bed.
Fish oil is more important though.
Already on that... but thanks, will start on the ZMA soon.

Does it really increase your testosterone? Sounds pretty cool. Read on one of Pooks post that people reported having like a 300% increase in sex drive, helps build muscle, and sleep better? DAMN!

Why wouldnt everyone take that
 

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Buy the zinc and magnesium separately and take them at the same time. Just as effective but much cheaper.

Both of these play a role in sex drive, testosterone, etc. Zinc is the most crucial though.

I can't take it at the moment cause my face breaks out badly when I take it, I must be getting enough zinc already for it to be causing a hormonal imbalance. So be cautious of that.

Quagmire
 

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Quagmire911 said:
I can't take it at the moment cause my face breaks out badly when I take it, I must be getting enough zinc already for it to be causing a hormonal imbalance. So be cautious of that.

Quagmire
Right now I'm taking doxycyclene as a prescription from the doctor to help with ance (I used to get it pretty bad on my back) and it's helped a lot.
All it says is not to take it within 2 hours of taking another vitamin, mineral, etc.

Well, I guess we'll see.

Quagmire, is all ZMA made of is Zinc and Magnesium? I was under the impression that there was more to it.
 

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Supremo said:
Right now I'm taking doxycyclene as a prescription from the doctor to help with ance (I used to get it pretty bad on my back) and it's helped a lot.
All it says is not to take it within 2 hours of taking another vitamin, mineral, etc.

Well, I guess we'll see.

Quagmire, is all ZMA made of is Zinc and Magnesium? I was under the impression that there was more to it.
Yeh just be careful and watch your timings. You want to take the zinc and magnesium around an hour before bed anyway, so it shouldn't interfere with your meds. Double check though.

And ZMA is just zinc and magnesium.
 

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Quagmire911 said:
Buy the zinc and magnesium separately and take them at the same time. Just as effective but much cheaper.
I haven't noticed this. I tried looking into that and the only way it's cheaper is if you get the crappily absorbed kind.
 

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mrRuckus said:
I haven't noticed this. I tried looking into that and the only way it's cheaper is if you get the crappily absorbed kind.
Must be a UK thing. Supps are priced a lot differently here.
 

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Ok so I realize that I love working out, and the 3 times a week thing isn't working out. I've been doing it every day since break got over. I don't remember everything but todays:

3x5 @ 245 deep squat
3x5 @ 145 flat bench press
2x5 @ 255 dead lift

The day before I also did:
3x5 @ 100 standing military press
3x5 @ 125 power cleans

I still only weigh 150-153 lbs (varies every day) so that sucks.

I also tested my max bench press (1 rep) and barely did 185lbs. Not too happy about that. I really want to get to 200 in the next month and a half at least.
 

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Supremo said:
Ok so I realize that I love working out, and the 3 times a week thing isn't working out. I've been doing it every day since break got over.

don't sabotage yourself man, just stick to the program


I don't remember everything but todays:

3x5 @ 245 deep squat
3x5 @ 145 flat bench press
2x5 @ 255 dead lift

The day before I also did:
3x5 @ 100 standing military press
3x5 @ 125 power cleans

I still only weigh 150-153 lbs (varies every day) so that sucks.

have you been eating all your meals? your weight should be up at this point, if not and u haven't been missing meals then the diet needs a little tweaking...and the training everyday thing has something to do with it to

I also tested my max bench press (1 rep) and barely did 185lbs.

i wonder why that is....follow the program the way its laid out. You did power cleans and standing military press the day before (and even more stuff prior to that) then did a full workout today with a random max test what weight did you expect to put up?


Not too happy about that. I really want to get to 200 in the next month and a half at least.

then stick to the original plan, not trying to be an a$$ but this is a good example of why most people fail so hopefully you and others will learn from this
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Effort thanks for the criticism.

Here's the thing: I hate NOT working out 5 times a week. I hate NOT seeing gains like I used to. It sucks only doing 3 sets of 5 of everything and not feeling sore at all after working out. I like to KNOW that I worked out.

And no, I haven't been sticking to the eating plan at all... it's just hard with school and all to find time to cook everything blah blah blah excuses.

Regardless, I'm not getting gains in the weight room like I was before I got on this plan.
 

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Yeah but the lack of weight gain is due to not eating properly man, as you know. Nothing to do with the routine.

Just do the program mate, working out 5days a week ain't gonna get you better gains than 3x a week (not likely anyways). Why do you hate doing 3x5 and low volume?..It obviously works.

And about the soreness thing...well, I *DO* get sore on a 3x5 type scheme, but soreness ain't the important thing anyway. The thing that's important is that you're progressing and your BW is going up.
 

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It's likely that you were not actually getting gains before, but just getting the "pump" from all that volume.

Once you are doing a low volume plan right, it is very taxing to your body and it would be impossible to train every day.
 

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Yeh, you'll not get anywhere if your diet is **** like others have said.

You are complaining that the program isn't getting you "sore" enough. Soreness isn't a good indicator of anything in this game.

Your squat, as you have logged, has gone from 185lbsx3x5 to 245lbsx3x5 from the 6th of December to the 11th of January. If you are not happy with that then I don't know what to tell you, as those are fantastic gains.

You need to realize that this isn't going to happen overnight. Personally I love the weights too, eating I can just about manage and the cardio I hate. The result being strength gains, weight gain, but too much fat gain.

If you really want to do well in this then you have to do things on point. That 245lbs set on squats, how did it feel? Making 10lb increases every week suggests that the weight was to light the week before, especially if your diet is ****ty. If the last set of five isn't challenging and you don't have to grind it out, I'd say you need to add 20-30lbs to the bar and see how you get on then.

And are those "deep squats" ass to grass?

Quagmire
 

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Effort thanks for the criticism.

Here's the thing: I hate NOT working out 5 times a week. I hate NOT seeing gains like I used to. It sucks only doing 3 sets of 5 of everything and not feeling sore at all after working out. I like to KNOW that I worked out.

And no, I haven't been sticking to the eating plan at all... it's just hard with school and all to find time to cook everything blah blah blah excuses.

Regardless, I'm not getting gains in the weight room like I was before I got on this plan.
Then why are you even posting on this board? Go to BB.com, I'm sure they'll hook you up with a 7 day split.

Don't bother asking for more advice until you're willing to take it.
 

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Supremo said:
Here's the thing: I hate NOT working out 5 times a week. I hate NOT seeing gains like I used to. It sucks only doing 3 sets of 5 of everything and not feeling sore at all after working out. I like to KNOW that I worked out.
If you don't know that you worked out, i'd venture a guess that you didn't work out. You just tossed around some puny weights and walked out without taxing yourself. Like nearly everyone else there.

Hi, mediocrity, you remember Supremo? You've known him since birth. Ironic name he has, no?
 

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I posted this in another thread explaining the whole point of the "where to start" post i made and also "simple starting diet". The whole point of this 11 weeks is to develop consistency with the most important things.Heres the post


"The majority of the guys on this board are originally coming from a place where they train 4+days a week doing each and every body part from each and every angle. They fail because they lack constistancy, there diets suck, there training sucks, (usually overtraining), there conditioning sucks and there sleeping sucks and of course there taking every which supplement under the sun.

So the whole point of the "where to start" thread is to get these guys on a program thats proven to work for the masses(obviously people vary a lot in terms of what they can tolerate, but this will cover everyone), while also changing eating habits to that which supports growth, improving conditioning, and sleep. And most importantly having them create a journal to force them to be consistent. Another issue these guys face is over analyzing, always thinking about there routine and making changes to it. So i said make no changes to any of the routines, since once 1 change is made another and another and they screwed themselves out of progress. I set it up so they wouldn't have to have a thought process other than show up and lift what the routine says to lift and once i made the "simple starting diet" thread, show up and eat what the thread says to eat. (i set it up this way intentionally since most guys think themsevles out of progress) so now they just do whats written, stick to it and in 11 weeks they have more progress than they've ever had in there training career, but more importantly, they now have 11weeks of consistancy under there belt at doing all the things they need to be doing to make progress. That 11 weeks will also produce good custom information of each individual which will tell us what needs to be done next to focus on there specific strengths and weaknesses."
 

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Am I the only one that thinks taking your squat from 185lbsx3x5 to 245lbsx3x5 in 5 weeks is great progress? Especially if diet wasn't on point?

That also as I said above and will re-iterate, suggests that the intensity wasn't there.

Quagmire
 

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Quagmire911 said:
That also as I said above and will re-iterate, suggests that the intensity wasn't there.
I know that i don't get sore from standing up from my chair or walking down the stairs everyday.

coz it's easy.
 
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