Super Psycho Mind Games with Girl for over 1 year- NEED ADVICE!!!!!

GoodButNotGreat

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THIS IS A LONG POST, PLEASE READ, I think this is a unique story and would definitely appreciate help!!!!
So whats up guys.... I have a pretty twisted, scary, relationship with a girl I have known for just over 1 year. Lets call her Sara.

So I go to a public university, and met Sara the end of last year (my freshman year).

I took her on a date, had a good time. We had planned on going to a party together the next day. Sara flakes, and her friend tells me that "I tried too hard on the date". Yeah, I opened her door, paid, nice guy stuff.

I plan on un-friending her out of my life, but she STILL goes out her way to talk to me, and still wants to hang out.

Then I came to sosuave to fix my AFCness ( a different account)...I read the great stuff here and learned how to create my own unique style.

So now I can talk and act normal around girls, I have a style that WORKS. I am able to pick up 7's consistently and 8's sometimes, I broke my virginity with an 8.5 ((NO JOKE)). Its been 3/4th of my year and I've hooked up with a TON of girls, almost had relationships...but I get bored with girls and set them aside!!! But in the back of my mind I have Sara on my mind, she is probably a 7.5 but the fact that I couldn't get her makes me want her so much, like she is my DREAM girl for sure!! We'd be perfect...so Back to the story with Sara though...

Summer goes by, we talk on AIM alot and she tells me that she LOVES hanging out(and by hanging out i mean going out somewhere) with me and just talks alot about what we should do when we get back.

We get back, and we start hanging out, I turn AFC with her again, she loses interest...but then comes back to me AGAIN! An example of what we do is would go out somewhere amazing, like a couple...but we just hug and never have ever kissed or anything. I haven't even talked to her about past bf's and her feelings of me. At this time I realize that she is a prude who barely drinks and doesn't really "hook up" with guys, but I'm OK with that.

So basically, she keeps giving me chances when I stop talking to her because I get pissed that she doesn't want me anything more than a friend (( Or thats what it seems like). She keeps trying to put herself back in my life when I start straying away.

This whole time, she is hard to get a hold of, kinda flaky to me, so I call her out. She tells me that she is sad that I feel that way. That moment she tells me to come over and talk to her about it, well I go and tell her how I feel. We start talking about our first "date", and I mention how her friend says I tried too hard, she says its a lie...and that "She really thought I was too good to be true and that I was perfect and that she didn't want it to be some game" and that "she isn't the type of girl who needs a relationship" but she realizes now that I am the real deal. We talk about her past bfs and stuff like that, first time ever even after hanging out alot!!!
==>> What does this mean??

Then she starts showing interest again....
Now this is what we are at now, I started turning AFC AGAIN...I am an idiot! I gave her a ride and walked her home. The thing is, she seems the most attracted to me when I don't care about her, but right now in time she is the one who is straying away because I turned AFC again.

I hope you guys all know what I'm at now, its pretty crazy to actually write out on a forum. But this just feels like a mind game...she wants me, then doesnt want me, and I stray away...then she comes back to me...WHAT DO I DO??? I feel that I keep FUKKING UP and that she is giving me more chances...how do I Succeed????

Any help would be very much appreciated! I am stumped from this girl! Also, if anything needs clarification I'll be more than happy to explain it better!


THANKS ALL!!!!!!
 

aifia

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this isnt as twisted as you think. This situation is pretty common.

You need to really have self control and control yourself from being AFC when you're with her.
 

ZenGodMod

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The wheels on the the bus goes round and round....

Haha!

You keep going in circles, you need to stop that! You keep waiting for something to happen, and thus nothing ever happens.

When her IL is at its highest and just before you blunder it all over again, strike fast!

ACT, grab her and kiss her like she's never been kissed before!
Problem is your worried if it all goes wrong after the kiss, don't worry.
You'll finally know if she is worth the wait or just a not worth the waste.
And that is priceless, cause you can finally move on from the eternal circle of confusion.
 

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Sh!t or get off the pot. ZenGodMod is correct about you going in circles. I'll add to that: you're going in circles chasing your own tail. Make a bold move and put this thing to rest one way or another. Cheers!
 

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ok, first of all, i dont know what u mean by showing interest, but i believe when a girl shows physical interest, then she is actually interested, before taht its like treading on thin ice, ya know.

ok in ur case, what should i say? man, i really feel like saying one thing to u: what do u mean by "being a nice guy"? is it taht u r giving her gifts ro buying her flowers, that is 'nice' according to u? if yes, then u r COMPLETELY WRONG! just imagine, its ur birthday and that girl who hangs out with often really comes with a sweet surprise for u, big bouquet and nice chocolates, whatever, my girl never did that to me, lol! how would feel like? u would have started liking her instantly, isnt it? man, its the same with girls. dont make this game so complicated. nice is nice when u try too hard, but just giving her random flowers as u walk along as a surprise or opening the door in a funny and different style, this all are called charming as long as u r not going out of ur way n trying to impress her. thats the trick.

teh next time u meet her, just take her or go for the physical escalation slowly but dont creep her out. thats it. and before that, u need to do one thing. just imagine what AFC things u normally do and if u were the girl, how would feel like and also be honest to yourself, if what AFC things u r doing is because you like her and appreciate her or because u want to impress her. cut off all that screams, "impress her".
 
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GoodButNotGreat said:
THIS IS A LONG POST, PLEASE READ, I think this is a unique story and would definitely appreciate help!!!!
So whats up guys.... I have a pretty twisted, scary, relationship with a girl I have known for just over 1 year. Lets call her Sara.

So I go to a public university, and met Sara the end of last year (my freshman year).

I took her on a date, had a good time. We had planned on going to a party together the next day. Sara flakes, and her friend tells me that "I tried too hard on the date". Yeah, I opened her door, paid, nice guy stuff.

I plan on un-friending her out of my life, but she STILL goes out her way to talk to me, and still wants to hang out.

Then I came to sosuave to fix my AFCness ( a different account)...I read the great stuff here and learned how to create my own unique style.

So now I can talk and act normal around girls, I have a style that WORKS. I am able to pick up 7's consistently and 8's sometimes, I broke my virginity with an 8.5 ((NO JOKE)). Its been 3/4th of my year and I've hooked up with a TON of girls, almost had relationships...but I get bored with girls and set them aside!!! But in the back of my mind I have Sara on my mind, she is probably a 7.5 but the fact that I couldn't get her makes me want her so much, like she is my DREAM girl for sure!! We'd be perfect...so Back to the story with Sara though...

Summer goes by, we talk on AIM alot and she tells me that she LOVES hanging out(and by hanging out i mean going out somewhere) with me and just talks alot about what we should do when we get back.

We get back, and we start hanging out, I turn AFC with her again, she loses interest...but then comes back to me AGAIN! An example of what we do is would go out somewhere amazing, like a couple...but we just hug and never have ever kissed or anything. I haven't even talked to her about past bf's and her feelings of me. At this time I realize that she is a prude who barely drinks and doesn't really "hook up" with guys, but I'm OK with that.

So basically, she keeps giving me chances when I stop talking to her because I get pissed that she doesn't want me anything more than a friend (( Or thats what it seems like). She keeps trying to put herself back in my life when I start straying away.

This whole time, she is hard to get a hold of, kinda flaky to me, so I call her out. She tells me that she is sad that I feel that way. That moment she tells me to come over and talk to her about it, well I go and tell her how I feel. We start talking about our first "date", and I mention how her friend says I tried too hard, she says its a lie...and that "She really thought I was too good to be true and that I was perfect and that she didn't want it to be some game" and that "she isn't the type of girl who needs a relationship" but she realizes now that I am the real deal. We talk about her past bfs and stuff like that, first time ever even after hanging out alot!!!
==>> What does this mean??

Then she starts showing interest again....
Now this is what we are at now, I started turning AFC AGAIN...I am an idiot! I gave her a ride and walked her home. The thing is, she seems the most attracted to me when I don't care about her, but right now in time she is the one who is straying away because I turned AFC again.

I hope you guys all know what I'm at now, its pretty crazy to actually write out on a forum. But this just feels like a mind game...she wants me, then doesnt want me, and I stray away...then she comes back to me...WHAT DO I DO??? I feel that I keep FUKKING UP and that she is giving me more chances...how do I Succeed????

Any help would be very much appreciated! I am stumped from this girl! Also, if anything needs clarification I'll be more than happy to explain it better!


THANKS ALL!!!!!!


What's so psycho about this? Calm down, this is normal. You have alot to learn.
 
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