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Sun Tzu, adapted for modern times

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I've read Sun Tzu's Art of War dozens of times and it's only fairly recently that I feel it's become ingrained in my mind. Here is my version of Sun Tzu's basic principles, adapted for this site. Keep in mind that there is some humor in here, but the advice is all real.

Sun Tzu's Art of War (on Women)

Make friends. Go to where the fish bite hard. Befriend their friends, go to where they cannot help but be.

Have icy composure. Know everything about them but be unknowable to them.

Play your strengths, hide your weaknesses.

Be sometimes subtle, sometimes blunt, always unpredictable. Lie shamelessly one moment, the next moment be completely, selectively, honest. One moment pretend to want them, the next pretend to not want them. This is what the ancient warriors called "mind-****ing".

Create vulnerability in them, stay flexible and ready, strike hard at the exact right moment.

Play from uphill--always care about the outcome less than them. Indifference is your main resource. Let me repeat. Indifference is your Main Resource.

Make moves that are quick, simple, and efficient.

Feed off your conquests for food, money, and most importanly, for access to more women.

Love them all, you don't have to **** them all, don't piss them off needlessly.

Be persistent but flexible. Persistence without flexibility is asinine, persistence with flexibility is gold.

Strike early, play to win quickly.

Once you see victory is assured, draw it out--this is foreplay.

When you win, win completely.

Listen to those who are successful, ignore the others.

Strike like rocks on eggshells, always strike a weaker power with your strong, content, indifferent power.

Use Contrast and Teasing to enhance sensation. A cool drink tastes better on a hot day. A cool drink tastes better after she hasn't had one for a while. This is called being unpredictable to increase intensity and this is called making them wait to create anticipation, too.

Never do the expected thing.

Make them come to you. Bait them in, lure them. Get them to chase you by taking something they want, by putting them in danger of losing something, by showing excellence, by giving them competition. Getting them to chase you by taking something they want is called feeding off them for baits--this is the peak of efficiency.

Break the shell, make the insides melt. When the insides melt the shell becomes useless.

Be always ready to strike at a moment's notice from behind a mask of icy composure and flexible, impossible to pin down, subtlety.

Divide them, get them alone, hit them alone. In a group the only two of any value to you are the strongest and the weakest. Get them on your side. Take away the attention of her friends to make her chase you.

Fight on your own turf whenever possible. Get them out of their turf, they will need you more.

Have an exit plan just in case.

Be excellent but, to the outside world, formless and unknowable. Make sure she spends more time thinking of you than you spend thinking of her. Give her reasons to think of you. Mystery is the best reason.

When it is not time to strike, do not force it. When it is the perfect time to strike, do not hesitate. At the actual moment of making a move, being formless is counterproductive--formlessness is for before, when actually striking you must be hard as a rock.

Have discipline. Have rules. Stick by them.

Use human spies. Every woman is different, has different weaknesses. Find them out. Always know more about her than she does about you.

Keep your health and don't do anything stupid. Your health is the most important thing.

Be calculatingly reckless--better go into battle early with a good plan than late with a great plan.

Take away their energy and their desire to resist and play games by exhausting them with baits and game-playing of your own. Play the game better than they do. Be better than they are. Games are an opportunity to excel. Turn their games around, be suave. When they have no energy to resist, when you put them in a place of comfort and they are grateful, your move will succeed like a spear sliding into butter cannot fail.

Be what they want and can't have, where they want to be but can't. Leave on a high note, when you're having the most fun, make them think of you and chase you.

Watch what they do, not what they say.

Don't rush in. Give them a little time to just observe you in your excellence, to let their lust for you grow. But then approach to give them an opportunity to show you their desire for you.

Don't push too hard--pushing hard for love is their job.

Act as if they were already acting the way you want them to act.

Be rested, full, and content when you make them come to you. When they are tired, empty, and hungry they will sense your power and want to attach themselves to you. The more women and options you have, the more indifference you have and more rested, full, and content you are. Never work on any less than two women at any one time.

Use the terrain. Let the place you are in with her intensify her experience of you.

In seduction it is better to receive than to give, in making love it is better to give than to receive. Mix it up anyway to be more unpredictable.
 

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And this is the most important thing--so important that I want to post it independently, down here:

Have fun, don't actually treat all of this as a battle unless you hate women, or are a professional pimp who does this for a living, or unless you've made some kind of bet. The basic principle is More Women=>Greater Indifference=>More Ability to Have Fun with Women=>Greater Attractiveness=>More Success=>Still More Women. It's a self-perpetuating cycle.

[This message has been edited by Vatican (edited 06-06-2002).]
 

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i think it an honour to be the first to say great post.
tell me about your libary? i have the art of war,48 laws of power,fanny hill,ethics etc

get back
 

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Thank you, first of all. My library... is huge. I have ten times more books than I could ever hope to read. That's why I love the short and sweet. Art of War, 48 Laws (sweet if not short), The Prince... I love Homer, as well. Homer really gets me into the sensual/indifferent mood. Art of War is amazing, though. Every time I read it I find something new there. Reading Sun Tzu over really helped me to formulate my theory of Indifference--basically, make them care as much as possible while yourself caring as little as possible.
 

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homer...mmm i have not read any?will do a search. i must say that i am like your theory of Indifference,makes sence,gives you control.currently reading caravaggio which is kinda cool

*do you write?
*which country? (u live) i am in england
*can you recommend some good online resourses?
*what are the main types of book do you read?(art,histroy,etc)

oh and you might want to have a look at speed reading(books), i have not tried but i have been told its good,i will pick one up soon.

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Good points. I also am a great fan of Sun Tzu. I can recommend the following books as well on your path to becoming an alpha male

1)
The Prince - Niccolo Machiavelli
A great book on power and how to get and keep it. Very adaptable to aid you in your quest to become the alpha male
2)
On War - Carl von Clauswitz
A great read along the lines of the art of war.
3)
The art of war - Niccolo Machiavelli
Another book on war strategy. This one focuses on the mental strangth (scaring your enemies through reputation etc.)
4)
The 48 laws of power - this should not be your first read as it is based mainly on the above books. Read the original, then the interpretation


I recommend you get these on audio tape, so you can listen to them again and again in your car and on your way to work until they are engrained in your mind for good.
 

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Read B.H. Liddell Hart's "Strategy" if you can get your hands on a copy.
 

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Originally posted by lordclem*:
homer...mmm i have not read any?will do a search. i must say that i am like your theory of Indifference,makes sence,gives you control.currently reading caravaggio which is kinda cool

*do you write?
*which country? (u live) i am in england
*can you recommend some good online resourses?
*what are the main types of book do you read?(art,histroy,etc)

oh and you might want to have a look at speed reading(books), i have not tried but i have been told its good,i will pick one up soon.

 

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Good points but...

We are not at war with women. I do agree that some of these tactics apply to dating, but women want to enjoy themselves.
The way to a womans heart is easy,
how she feels about herself around you.
That is it.

You have to enjoy yourself while applying this and it is not easy. Women are far better players then any man will ever be. It's in their nature to be that way.
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
Rather...secure the conditions for victory before seeking to do battle.
Further... to secure against defeat lies within our own hands.
 
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