Success Through Giving Out My Number

[True Realness]

Hey guys, first and foremost I'm new to SoSuave and want to thank you guys for having me. Just to give a quick roundup, I'm currently talking to two girls while still communicating with my ex (we still hang-out with sex from time to time). Over the past 3-4 months, I've come across an issue that involves new girls flaking on me after I've gotten their number. To help weed out the flakes and fakes, last month I decided to only give out my number during an approach and not ask for theirs (my logic behind this was very simple; if a girl truly liked my approach and wanted to know me a little better she'd pick up the phone and call; simple as that) Every call back in my eyes would be a sign of genuine interest and decided to try this theory with every approach I made in the future

Back in March, I approached 7 twenty-something girls and the quality of each I'd rank as three HB8's and four HB7's. My style for the most part is indirect while centering my attention on a good convo and getting to know her very quickly. My openers are situational; however, sometimes I'll sit next to a girl on the subway and ask "How was your day?" and many will take the bait and run with it. After each approach and conversation with the 7 girls, I gave them my number very casually (When giving my number I'll say something like "You seem like someone I could hangout and chill with, here's my cell where you can reach me to keep in touch") By doing this, I've gotten all 7 call-backs, have been on multiple lunch, dinner or weekend dates with 4 of the girls so far, and have had sex with one so far.

My approach style along with the number giving method seems to be working at the moment. I wanted to know if there were other guys on this board that follow a similar route and has experienced success because everyone insists on getting her number instead.

 

[everywomanshero]

I passed out cards with my name and number on it to a few dozen car windows back in the AFC days. I did this right before I was moving. LOL. I never received a call.

On a cold approach, laying one out of 7 # contacts isn't bad. I would say just keep doing what you're doing. If something works, then I'd go with that unless your goal is to become a Jedi Master. There is all kinds of theories about email, phone #s, etc. I have my own theory, I will get the # but then proceed for the kiss/make out unless there is a significant reason not to. I do this for the same reason you refuse to take their #, I don't want to deal with flakiness. If a secure a kiss or makeout or fclose, then it's less likely to happen. Actually, I used to get a lot of ONSs until I started doing A3.

 

[True Realness]

Your method would definitly seem to separate the potential candidates from the flakes and fakes for sure. It's ballsy as hell to go for a kiss close on a girl you just met off the street; that could be something I could try though if I felt the vibe was that good. As far as the 7 # contacts, I'm getting close to sleeping with another one of the girls but I'm playing it cool by not forcing the issue and allowing her to chase me.

 

[animal crackers]

First, the negative

*Some girls just don't call guys because they're too scared, or they get hit on by so many guys with game that they forget and there's already a new guy there anyway.


Anyways,

I prefer this method. It's brent style. (asf dude)

-She's the one chasing
-You weed out the ones that would flake anyway
-Saves time
-Unique. If you purposely give your # out (not where she rejects your number close and says give me your #) If you suggest it, it is unique and very 'non-needy'


One great line I like to use, sounds AFC I guess but it has a good turnaround.

After you gave her your #, a little later say 'so, are you gonna call me' and if she says maybe or anything less than super positive say 'oh well, it's been fun' and walk off verrrrry...slowly. She should grab you.

If you've had a good interaction with this girl, she will feel such a sense of loss if you walk away that she won't let you. This reinforces that she actually has to call you. She worked for you, she can't let you get away.


The psychology behind it works SOO MUCH in your favor.

 

[arlanda]

Sure, going for high IL chicks only will save you a lot of headache, time, money, etc. ;-)

 

[Egoist]

its a GREAT method if you set it up right, for sure.

-If you do a strong close, especially a kiss close, it helps.
-Give them instructions on how where when to call you, maybe even get a commitment from them on that (without being desperate) - it increases the callback rate for sure.
-if you didnt kiss close, get at least a cheek kiss from them (point to the cheek as you say bye)


so anyway, properly done, I believe this is a great way to eliminate the flakes and crap.

 

[True Realness]

I prefer this method. It's brent style. (asf dude)

-She's the one chasing
-You weed out the ones that would flake anyway
-Saves time
-Unique. If you purposely give your # out (not where she rejects your number close and says give me your #) If you suggest it, it is unique and very 'non-needy'

These are very good points, I never thought of it like that when I decided to switch my technique. I really like the unique and non-needy part you mentioned as well because most girls aren't expecting a guy to give his number and not ask for theirs in return. This sort of action might draw a level of intrigue and mystery (which could explain why it has worked for me thus far)

its a GREAT method if you set it up right, for sure.

-If you do a strong close, especially a kiss close, it helps.
-Give them instructions on how where when to call you, maybe even get a commitment from them on that (without being desperate) - it increases the callback rate for sure.
-if you didnt kiss close, get at least a cheek kiss from them (point to the cheek as you say bye)


so anyway, properly done, I believe this is a great way to eliminate the flakes and crap.

I liked where you were going with this; although I didn't attempt any kiss closes with the 7 girls I approached, I do remember hugging 2 of them after our conversation ended. But for all of them, at some point I initiated kino either on their thigh if I approached them sitting down, or on their arms if I made my approach standing up.

 

[stepover]

-if you didnt kiss close, get at least a cheek kiss from them (point to the cheek as you say bye)

How obvious can you get about being a pickup artist? That move strikes me as ridiculous. Be casual, fun, and disarming is my advice (perhaps harder said than done).

How often have you asked for the kiss on the cheek? How often do you get it? What sorta responses have you gotten?