Study says all red meat is bad for you

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I would like to see the same research, but controlled for level of physical activity and exercise. I would suspect a hamburger does not pose the same long-term health risk to an athlete as compared to a typical obese American.


http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-red-meat-20120313,0,565423.story

All red meat is bad for you, new study says

A long-term study finds that eating any amount and any type increases the risk of premature death.

By Eryn Brown, Los Angeles Times

March 12, 2012

Eating red meat — any amount and any type — appears to significantly increase the risk of premature death, according to a long-range study that examined the eating habits and health of more than 110,000 adults for more than 20 years.

For instance, adding just one 3-ounce serving of unprocessed red meat — picture a piece of steak no bigger than a deck of cards — to one's daily diet was associated with a 13% greater chance of dying during the course of the study.

Even worse, adding an extra daily serving of processed red meat, such as a hot dog or two slices of bacon, was linked to a 20% higher risk of death during the study.

"Any red meat you eat contributes to the risk," said An Pan, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston and lead author of the study, published online Monday in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

Crunching data from thousands of questionnaires that asked people how frequently they ate a variety of foods, the researchers also discovered that replacing red meat with other foods seemed to reduce mortality risk for study participants.

Eating a serving of nuts instead of beef or pork was associated with a 19% lower risk of dying during the study. The team said choosing poultry or whole grains as a substitute was linked with a 14% reduction in mortality risk; low-fat dairy or legumes, 10%; and fish, 7%.

Previous studies had associated red meat consumption with diabetes, heart disease and cancer, all of which can be fatal. Scientists aren't sure exactly what makes red meat so dangerous, but the suspects include the iron and saturated fat in beef, pork and lamb, the nitrates used to preserve them, and the chemicals created by high-temperature cooking.

The Harvard researchers hypothesized that eating red meat would also be linked to an overall risk of death from any cause, Pan said. And the results suggest they were right: Among the 37,698 men and 83,644 women who were tracked, as meat consumption increased, so did mortality risk.

In separate analyses of processed and unprocessed meats, the group found that both types appear to hasten death. Pan said that at the outset, he and his colleagues had thought it likely that only processed meat posed a health danger.

Carol Koprowski, a professor of preventive medicine at USC's Keck School of Medicine who wasn't involved in the research, cautioned that it can be hard to draw specific conclusions from a study like this because there can be a lot of error in the way diet information is recorded in food frequency questionnaires, which ask subjects to remember past meals in sometimes grueling detail.

But Pan said the bottom line was that there was no amount of red meat that's good for you.

"If you want to eat red meat, eat the unprocessed products, and reduce it to two or three servings a week," he said. "That would have a huge impact on public health."

A majority of people in the study reported that they ate an average of at least one serving of meat per day.

Pan said that he eats one or two servings of red meat per week, and that he doesn't eat bacon or other processed meats.

Cancer researcher Lawrence H. Kushi of the Kaiser Permanente Division of Research in Oakland said that groups putting together dietary guidelines were likely to pay attention to the findings in the study.

"There's a pretty strong supposition that eating red meat is important — that it should be part of a healthful diet," said Kushi, who was not involved in the study. "These data basically demonstrate that the less you eat, the better."

UC San Francisco researcher and vegetarian diet advocate Dr. Dean Ornish said he gleaned a hopeful message from the study.

"Something as simple as a meatless Monday can help," he said. "Even small changes can make a difference."

Additionally, Ornish said, "What's good for you is also good for the planet."

In an editorial that accompanied the study, Ornish wrote that a plant-based diet could help cut annual healthcare costs from chronic diseases in the U.S., which exceed $1 trillion. Shrinking the livestock industry could also reduce greenhouse gas emissions and halt the destruction of forests to create pastures, he wrote.
 

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Everything the average fat sedentary American (or Australian for that matter) eats is bad for them, not just red meat.
 
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I eat around 5 lbs of red meat a week. I may get cancer one day, but I'm going to look damn good doing it.
 

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I have heard the same thing a while ago and still believe that its true...maybe not for EVERYONE. This is why we stick to chicken and fish!
 

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Bible_Belt said:
"If you want to eat red meat, eat the unprocessed products, and reduce it to two or three servings a week," he said. "That would have a huge impact on public health."
Mind-blowing conclusions right there, Mrs. Brown.
 

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Since we're all told red meat is bad for us, people who care about their health don't eat red meat, plus perform dozens of other things that are considered healthy like avoiding other unhealthy things and actually exercising. So it's not exactly a surprise that people who eat less red meat are healthier because they mostly do everything they're told is healthier!

People who consume red meat or even more red meat don't care so they ignore the warnings about this and everything else too. They're frequently the people who smoke, don't exercise ever, and eat a lot of sugar too. Wanna bet that as red meat consumption goes up, exercising goes down and smoking goes up? How's that a correlation for ya?


This sh1t is self selecting and hugely influenced by the existence of the studies to begin with. Little to nothing is controlled for, questionnaires are useless because people are wrong or lie, and "linked" doesn't mean "causes" even in the slightest.

Nutritional science around the world is BULLSH1T. The conclusion that red meat is bad because of the way it's cooked or preserved is ludicrous. Well, then, if the way we cook and preserve meat is bad, then it's the fault of those things, not the meat itself. Cook and preserve it differently if that's the real culprit, which it probably isn't, because there's no science that really says there's a culprit to begin with.

Yet another sh1tacular article written by a stupid, scare-mongering journalist about a study performed by "scientists" who aren't performing legitimate science. The scientific method doesn't include questionnaires and slews of uncontrolled variables.
 

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Part of the issue is because cows are fed an improper diet that makes them sick, injected with lots of hormones and antibiotics and kept in stalls where they can barely move. Is it any wonder why this makes people sick? Cows are designed to eat grass but instead are fed heavy grain diets and this ends up making them ill and causing inflammation throughout their body. Same thing with people...how many inflammatory diseases are actually caused by gluten intolerance? A lot more than we think. People are not designed to live on grains...in fact Dr. Awalter Price a dentist became obsessed with finding out what native peoples ate that protected them from disease and his findings were shocking to him...lots of meat and organs/lots of fats and roots, berries and fruits. In fact he could NOT find any society that ever flourished while eating a grain based diet. He discovered conversely that when Native American populations changed their diets from meat based to grain based their levels of diseases and sickness skyrocketed, based on their bone records. Diseases that were never seen before suddenly became commonplace. Heavy grain consumption is not good for humans nor animals and abimals that are fed grains become sick, making us sicker. Read "Fat Burning Kitchen" for more information on that...excellent book. Corn is also not fit to be eaten by humans. It spikes insulin and vontains substances that prevent proper nutrient uptake and leeches minerals from the body.

I am pretty sure the study results would have different if they were eating organic grass fed beef that is much higher in CLA and other nutrients. Remember the bigger the animal, the more accumulated toxins it is going to have in it...

I don't eat red meat often but if I did, it would only be organic grass fed beef...
 

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Whenever I eat red meat, I feel amazing afterward. I like chicken and fish, but they don't give me the same effect and don't satiate my hunger for as long as red meat does. I would probably eat steak for every meal if I could afford it.
 

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Ice Cube did a study once and found "big d!cks in your ass is bad for yo health"...
 

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Marmel, you made a good point. Factory Farms pump out like some 25,000 steers a day. Giving them sh*t for food, poor living conditions and pumping them with steroids and anti-biotics, which will remain in the beef. Cooking it does not get rid of the horomones.

I love red meat and eat it anyways, even though its also high saturated fat... I always like shopping for my beef at a trusted grocery store or local butcher. That way I know what kind of meat I'm buying. Like if its all natural or organic fed, where its from and ect.
 
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