Student gets tazed for not having id...

[Production6257]

OK, way to just completely misconstrue the story, Morphiex. Here is what happened, according to an official news report, and not BS hearsay:

They asked him to show ID, and they do this to EVERYBODY after 11pm. He made it into a race issue and went limp and asked everyone in the library to join his resistance. Also, a cop grabbed his arm and he yelled "Get off me!", so it seemed that he was ready to get violent. So they tased him on the lowest setting. The Taser was set to just shock a certain part of the body, instead of the whole thing.

The thing that really gets to me is when people turn it into a race issue when it isn't even there. If this was a white kid, people wouldn't give it a second thought and it would be funny to watch. Just make sure to get the real facts instead of believing the first thing you hear.

 

[piranha45]

im siding with the guy who says he shoulda been shot and purged from the gene pool

 

[~attrACTION~]

I agree with whistler and hammahamma.

It's pathetic that people from either side try to "use" little nonsense situations like these to add fire to their agenda. It had nothing to do with race or politics. Just cops doing their job. I personally don't love cops for my own reasons, but the kid was a punk who was clearly out of line...and he screamed like a *****. They should have just shot him in the leg and dragged him out.

I got an email from someone earlier this week asking me to sign one of these stupid petitions in support of the kid. Whatever, that's why I hate the whole taking sides thing. People who takes sides get blind and forget about the truth/reality.

 

[Morphiex]

misconstrue the story ?, i said what you said , but i put "maby they thought he was a suicide bomber and got scared," aslo i said "oki from what i understand".. i didnt say it was facts , but pherhaps the police were a bit egdy because of current threaths by muslim extremists , that they would have thought since he was irani-decent that he could POSSIBLY be a suicide bomber... therefore went to more extreme measures to subdue him then pherhaps they would have used with a white person... is this so hard to believe ? , or do people get treated equally everywhere in the usa... the police see a person whos middleeastern yelling and ranting , would they not belive that he was possibly a terrorist ? would not that fear make them missunderstand the situation and revert to using UNECCESARY force to subdue the suspect... if it had been a white person yellign , they would pherhaps have thought of another columbine episode and doen the same thign but they would have more likely thought of him as a regular young hippie and just carried him out without using tazers....

also i said that he should have just shown is id from the begginning and not started ranting about racisme and 1st ammendment or whatever...
and that police didnt have to use the tazer even once , when he showed no real threat other then yelling....

i think whistler said it best...

 

[Shiftkey]

...wish I came across this thread eariler

When you disobey a command from a police officer, you are in violation of the law.

lol and what law is that Mr. Lawyer?

 

[Charm&Style]

I agree with whistler and hammahamma.

It's pathetic that people from either side try to "use" little nonsense situations like these to add fire to their agenda. It had nothing to do with race or politics. Just cops doing their job. I personally don't love cops for my own reasons, but the kid was a punk who was clearly out of line...and he screamed like a *****. They should have just shot him in the leg and dragged him out.

I got an email from someone earlier this week asking me to sign one of these stupid petitions in support of the kid. Whatever, that's why I hate the whole taking sides thing. People who takes sides get blind and forget about the truth/reality.

True bro, but what gets me is that some people on this forum speak out of their a$s and just talk mad sh!t about any middle eastern because they're either some zionist following homo, or some racist pig whose valueless.

Another thing is that...wtf, the kid was a young man, and you guys are encouraging cops to **** a young man in development, wow then you go and call a middle eastern whose agner "terrorist". Seems to me a guy with sucha mentality as of shot the kid on the spot, or go around shotting guys who wont show the sh!t in their locker as a terrorist.

Why stop there, take it to the highschools too.

misconstrue the story ?, i said what you said , but i put "maby they thought he was a suicide bomber and got scared," aslo i said "oki from what i understand".. i didnt say it was facts , but pherhaps the police were a bit egdy because of current threaths by muslim extremists , that they would have thought since he was irani-decent that he could POSSIBLY be a suicide bomber... therefore went to more extreme measures to subdue him then pherhaps they would have used with a white person... is this so hard to believe ? , or do people get treated equally everywhere in the usa... the police see a person whos middleeastern yelling and ranting , would they not belive that he was possibly a terrorist ? would not that fear make them missunderstand the situation and revert to using UNECCESARY force to subdue the suspect... if it had been a white person yellign , they would pherhaps have thought of another columbine episode and doen the same thign but they would have more likely thought of him as a regular young hippie and just carried him out without using tazers....

also i said that he should have just shown is id from the begginning and not started ranting about racisme and 1st ammendment or whatever...
and that police didnt have to use the tazer even once , when he showed no real threat other then yelling....

i think whistler said it best...

why do you think sucha retarded things....cops know a fvckin extremist muslim from a fvckin student whose gone over the edge trying to make a stand. Seriously i wanna know how old all you douche baggs are that say such things. I for one am 18, and im not taking sides after hearing many stories but whats bothering the most is the violence and ignorance of some of you'r moralitys and mentalitys.

You've gone way over board with what the cops shouldve done to a 19-21 yr old guy.

Then there are some of you who say "he screamed like a b!tch" plz shut the fvck up, im sure if you were teased or even punked around by someone of higher authority youde scream like a girl too.

Good to know how ppl think though, that ppl have no respect for each other as single individuals.

And to clear this up for all you idiots who keep bringing up iran as an extremist islamic country. Take it from me whose lived there for a few years, and has a buncha family there. They (The People) are nooooooo where close to being the way you guys view. In fact the majority of the countrys population are 25 yrs old. They love america, and western life. Its just the corrupt government thats effing them over. So go do some research before you put titles on ppl.

Your racism is not funny, i could sit here all day making the funniest racist slurs about jews,white,w/e but how would that make me look. Have respect for yourself and for others that live this world. Dont live like savage beasts who have no moralitys in life.


Again to deuc/mike/and anyone else who thinks i have beef them, i dont. Juss gets under my skin when hatred is brought up for no reason, Especially against a youth.

 

[Slevin]

lol and what law is that Mr. Lawyer?

My personal favorite "law" below.

(active resistance carries a death penalty)

 

[Morphiex]

who the hell is bringing iran in as an extremist country ????
as far as i know im the only one here that said that people act differently towards different races ,and since the current dozens of threats made to the usa by extremists , the police are extra careful amongst people of middleeastern decent...
im 20 , ive encountered more racisme then probably most of you guys have in your lives ,i live in a place where theres only 10 coloured people 10!! ive been watched by people when im in stores , im always the ones being cuestioned by the police when i go out , and im always the one they suspect might be carrying a weapon when i go to the clubs ... why because of stupid generalization , some ****tards pakinstani gangs do alot of illigal **** in a big city and suddenly every other coloured person is marked as a low life criminal as well , im not oki with it but i still live on accepting it , its just human nature , we generalize and stigmatize each other to a certain extent...

and thus my point .
why in the world cant you people see the possibility that the police were edgy around a middleesterner who was yellign and ranting about the usa`s politics andor culture..
Is it so hard to think that the police at some moment thought of him as a suicide bomber so they decided to be extra careful and used unneccesary force to subdue him...
Why the **** is that so hard to belive... its ****ign reality people , we dont live in a world where people are perfect , the policemen can be wrong too , they were possibly scared of the situation and decided to use uneccesary force to subdue their target....

 

[Charm&Style]

Why the **** is that so hard to belive... its ****ign reality people , we dont live in a world where people are perfect , the policemen can be wrong too , they were possibly scared of the situation and decided to use uneccesary force to subdue their target....

bro which suicide bomber have you seen that would look like the kid, or even do the things the kid did.

You think a suicide bomber is juss gonna start yelling out "fvck the patriot act" and blow him self up in a ucla library. No, he wouldnt even aim at the school library and from i know, ppl usualy dont cary explosives with them.

Secondly like ive said, police and here to serve and protect, im 100% sure they can spot a suspecious middle eastern from a student whose gone over the edge of making a stand.

This is where lables come in, "Well.....since he was middle eastern and started to get loud, HE COULDVE BLOWN US UP, come on its "fvckin reality"..." Ahhh no its not fvcking reality. Thats puting lables on ppl because of their race.

But then again im glad i live in Socal where ppl live amongst a mix crowd and you get to learn different cultures and traditions of ppl. I bet most of you out there that are saying sucha idiotic sh!t live in some small town up in Nebraska.

If you were to ask majority of ppl that live in socal they all would think your a dumba$s douche bagg for saying the cops thought the kid couldve been a suicide bomber.

 

[Morphiex]

yo suicide bombers dont all look like tall bearded guys with a turban... the ones that blew up in london , those damn stupid mofos, looked like normal people , like normal young people... they are trained to look and act normal... so it is actually hard for people to notice who is a extremist and who is not ... therefore panic arises and people do stupid sh\it , like the one police officer in london shot and killed and armless brazilian tourist , cuz the police thought he was a terrorist and had a gun....

you can keep telling yourself this afterschool-special bullcrap that police are perfect and cannot make mistakes ,and everything is right and nothing bad happens without reason.... but reality is people fu\ck up ,like in this case....

 

[Deep Dish]

Deus ex Pianoforte:
When you disobey a command from a police officer, you are in violation of the law.

lol and what law is that Mr. Lawyer?

California code
2800. (a) It is unlawful to willfully fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order, signal, or direction of any peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, when that peace officer is in uniform and is performing duties under any of the provisions of this code, or to refuse to submit to any lawful inspection under this code.

 

[Skilla_Staz]

Bam!

 

[Derek Flint]

He failed to comply with school rules by refusing to show his Student ID when entering the library.

Cops were called, and when the Cops came, he refused to show it to them too.

When asked to leave, he resisted, became verbally abusive, and then the cops attempted to forcibly remove him from the premises.

He again resisted, and was warned that if he continued to resist, he would be tazered.

He again refused to comply, was tasered, and still refused to leave.

He was warned repeatedly, yet again refused to comply and instead starts hysterically ranting about fascism, and the Patriot Act and some other BS

He had several chances to remedy the situation, but instead choice to escalate it at every point.

This isn't about race or ethnicity or any of that - it's about a ****y, arrogant punk who went looking for trouble, found it, and when it was more than he bargained for, he screamed like the drama queen little ***** that he is, and now he wants to play the race card and blame others for his stupidity.

Just a spoiled punk kid who thought that he can do what he wants, when he wants, and that the rules and the law don't apply to him.

I've seen plenty of his type - always talk a lot of $#!T, but cry the loudest when the check comes due.

I hope he $#!T and P!$$ED himself when he got lit up.

 

[Charm&Style]

100's compared to the majority is nothing. Those hundreds that stand behind him first of all are the revolutionist from back in khomenis time. And ofcourse thats all your going to see on the news media not only here in the US, but even back in Iran...why Because duh the government controls it all (back in iran) and the jews that run the media here just want to feed BS to gullable ppl here in the US so more hatred can arise and other politcal reasons can concure.

Again you only view what you c on the media as your source. Actually research modern day iran and learn a fact or two if your gonna put a lable as all iranians being islamic radicals.

But what would i know, im just iranian.

 

[Charm&Style]

bro im against this whole issue of the UCLA student case being labled as racial discrimination. Ive read the stories and all...i do think the cops took it overboard especially becuase there was 2 of them against one kid, but thats a whole different story.

Plus my statement wasnt towards you about labling.

If you want percentage the last time i checked i believe 93-95% of irans population where 25 yr olds who if you check are all against the government and love western society. Like ive said before, since your a man of hard facts a little research about other cultures, religon, race wouldnt hurt.


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[Charm&Style]

Its not only iranians that are labled as extremists its everyone from the middle east. The point is that iranians are the last ppl to ever do such a thing.

wow bro im trying to talk to you as nicely as i can yet you really do bvtch like a girl. Whats the point of me pointing out the few vague/idiotic statements that you have given which is so obvous you got off the news thats so bias. Your the type that thinks hes the sh!t and wont open up unless its to someone who agrees with you.

Its ok though, this thread isnt leading anywhere besides a few more racial slurs. Its coo though, you cant expect everyone to have high morals.

Btw since when has using the word "you" been to only one person, The "you" i used is to everyone reading my post who puts lables on ppl.

sorry if that got you all butt hurt.

 

[MetalFortress]

Hey, guess who's NOT getting tazed?

Me. That's right, I'm not getting tazed by cops. You know why? Because when they ask me to show my ID, I show it. If I don't have it, I apologize and say I forgot it. Therefore, I, a part-Armenian with a penchant to tan VERY easily, thus having been mistaken for an Arab MANY times, have never been tazed by cops, and will never be tazed by cops.

This kid deserved to be tazed. And to all you retards who say that they had no right to expect him to get up after tazing, how do you explain this? http://www.uselessjunk.com/article_full.php?id=12724

You need to start thinking logically if you think this kid was treated unfairly. It's the cop's job to keep order, and because of that, the cops should not be afraid to do it the hard way if need be. If they just laid down and let this kid walk all over them, they'd be crappy cops. If this kid cooperated, he would not have been tazed. Bottom line.

Oh, and if you're going to state that someone's an idiot for saying that the cops had every right, GIVE A LOGICAL REASON, ass-breaths. Don't come on here and start sounding like a heroin-shooting Vietnam-era hippie, spouting canned slogans that sound good because you can't think of any real rebuttal yourself.

 

[doctoroxygen]

Hahaha. There are a lot of personal insults being thrown around here..

Does anyone ever think about why internet arguments get so much more heated and angry than face-to-face arguments? It's very interesting to me.

 

[Charm&Style]

You talk too much. You made bold statements about people labeling all Iranians. Where are my f'ucking quotes.

douche, plz comprehend, read the post i made earlier and said that that wasn't to you, in fact since now youve got me suspecting that with the fancy schmancy way you talk you mite, just mite, be partially retarded ill bold it for you IT WASN'T TO YOU MY FRIEND. It was aimed towards morph and others who want to label middle easterns, which me being from an iranian decent used iran as the perfered country, are not terrorist/extremist/suicide bomers and etc.

The posts youve made about the kid getting out of hand and so on i agree with you 100%. The time i made the disagreement i didn't know the full story.

Still though, if thought logical, any harsh violence that occurs to a studen ON a college campus is going to cause chaos no matter what.

I believe the cops coulve done a way better job of mntaining ordear and peace within the campus. There were TWO of them, how come when cops come around druggies who have lost their mind and do worst sh!t then this, and get all angry and voilent, how come they arent tazerd. The cop usualy talks to them, and if they were to start swinging at the cops or threatining the cops then their a$s would get tazed or w/e.

Im juss saying all of this wouldve been pervented with a little bit of patience, which as a fellow friend of mine whose a cop says that patience is one key factor that is taught to them while in training.

The dumbass persian kid wanted to make a stand, the cops couldve easily laid him on the floor, put handcuffs on him, took him outside and had that talk.

You ppl who are all for this aggression and voilence are dumb, its only going to make little situations into big ones which lead to all this nonesense controversy.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Hahaha. There are a lot of personal insults being thrown around here..

Does anyone ever think about why internet arguments get so much more heated and angry than face-to-face arguments? It's very interesting to me.

I'll tell you why. There's no physical retrobution. People can completely expound on their beliefs no matter how extreme or far fetched without the fear of getting 'tazed.' Too bad.... :trouble: