GrandMaster
Don Juan
After getting out of my first LTR I have started sarging regularly again.
I've been quite successful at opening girls, getting initial attraction and getting first kino. I #closed a couple and arranged dates with almost all of them.
and this is were I stuck. whereas I find the attraction game easy and I totally control the situation, on the date I sort of have to put in a lot of mental effort to keep conversations going. obviously this depends also on the girl and her level of selfesteem, if she's talkative or not.
now from the last 5 new dates I haven't been able to extract a kiss close. I easily kiss and bj closed a girl I hadn't seen in 1.5 years but had already slept with. I just totally had the frame.
I also have a great vibe with her and there's never an akward moment. she also gets all my ****y funny jokes.
General question: can the real pros vibe with anyone or are some girls just really boring / on a totally different level where you can't connect with them (not getting c&f, not interested in your stories and your not really interested in theirs)
for example I asked this girl today "where do I have to go so that you don't follow me?" and she replied "so you already want to get rid of me?" but not in a funny way rather an insecure way.
My game works best with HSE chicks who get ****y funny and also tend to talk alot. but with the girls I can't connect that fast I just don't seem to get real attraction / interest although already on the date.
what would you recommend as readings / mindsets / techniques for someone who can easily get a date but can't get the kiss close consistently?
how do you game a girl with rather low self esteem?
I've been quite successful at opening girls, getting initial attraction and getting first kino. I #closed a couple and arranged dates with almost all of them.
and this is were I stuck. whereas I find the attraction game easy and I totally control the situation, on the date I sort of have to put in a lot of mental effort to keep conversations going. obviously this depends also on the girl and her level of selfesteem, if she's talkative or not.
now from the last 5 new dates I haven't been able to extract a kiss close. I easily kiss and bj closed a girl I hadn't seen in 1.5 years but had already slept with. I just totally had the frame.
I also have a great vibe with her and there's never an akward moment. she also gets all my ****y funny jokes.
General question: can the real pros vibe with anyone or are some girls just really boring / on a totally different level where you can't connect with them (not getting c&f, not interested in your stories and your not really interested in theirs)
for example I asked this girl today "where do I have to go so that you don't follow me?" and she replied "so you already want to get rid of me?" but not in a funny way rather an insecure way.
My game works best with HSE chicks who get ****y funny and also tend to talk alot. but with the girls I can't connect that fast I just don't seem to get real attraction / interest although already on the date.
what would you recommend as readings / mindsets / techniques for someone who can easily get a date but can't get the kiss close consistently?
how do you game a girl with rather low self esteem?