Strippers and Church Ladies

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A mainstay in my life over the last several years has been my relationship with a couple of women who are seemingly polar opposites yet very much the same. One is a stripper named Amanda and the other is a church lady named Kathleen. Both are in their mid thirties.

Kathleen

Kathleen is one of those pampered women who grew up without want and married a successful business man. She occupies her time volunteering for and organizing charity efforts mostly by marshalling the resources of her church and the efforts of its members. Everything she does seems to have a religious overtone to it.

We met rather oddly. There was this anti-abortion group at the county fair. I stopped to heckle them which turned into an impromptu debate between me and perhaps a dozen of them. I held my own, even gaining applause from the assembling crowd. Throughout it all was this woman, Kathleen, who even though amongst the anti-abortionists was giving me admiring, at times flirting eyes.

Being that she was married and such a religious zealot I didn’t think much of it when she invited me to join her at her weekly dinner for poor and homeless people at a local community center. After it was over and I was picking up chairs and putting them in racks, she came over and was saying something about me being strong and athletic and handsome and that I had a wonderful smile…, blah, blah, blah. Clearly she was playing up to me - which I guess she was doing from the beginning. We ended the night with a rather erotic hug and just a sampling of a kiss. Thus began our little affair.

Once, when I was with her, this guy started preaching to me. In response I gave him my “the absurdity of the concept of a god” argument. As I spoke, tears welled up in her eyes. It was as if the realization of my absolute disbelief in the god concept was breaking her heart. I didn’t see her for months afterwards. When I came back around there were no apologies, just “I missed you” and “good to see you again” talk – on both sides. We no longer talk about religion.

Amanda

Amanda’s father died when she was still an infant and her mother pregnant with her sister. This led to her having a series of temporary “daddies”. Men who her mother could get to support her and her daughters. Some of whom Amanda claims molested her.

She quit school when she was 15 and after a series of minimum wage, dead end jobs got her GED. This only led to her going through another series of equally dreadful employment until she discovered the financial rewards that can be made by stripping. Even though she sometimes earns large sums of money she doesn’t handle it very well and often struggles to pay for her most basic expenses.

Several years ago I had just moved to where I now live. After settling in I wanted to go out socializing but knew really no one. On my daily trips I passed this strip club. Great, I thought, a place where even if I didn’t know anyone, someone would be friendly towards me. It had a nice laid back feel to it, more like a friendly neighborhood bar than a strip club. I was an instant hit with the girls and over the next few months I got to know most of them. Some would tell me that they and the others would talk about me in the dressing room, comparing notes.

There was one girl, Amanda. When I first saw her she was wearing a rather skimpy ****tail dress with Dr. Marten boots and had a tough punk-like attitude. When we sat down together there was comfort between us, an easy communication, seeing things similarly, all added up to us becoming friends.

After stopping by for once a week most weeks for a couple of months she was telling me something about that usually when a guy comes in regularly that he usually gets a private dance with his favorite girl. She could have been fishing for a private dance, which I never do, but I noticed how she seemed to emphasize “his favorite girl.” So I asked her, “Don’t you think that you’re my favorite?” She came back with, a drawn out “maybe” while twisting in a innocent kind of way.

By now I seemed to think about her time quite often. When I went to see her again I gave her a picture of a flower which I had drawn. She got real excited over the picture and wanted me to show her more of my “stuff”, as she put it, which she kept repeating because, she says, it was making me blush.

A couple of days later we met up for a late lunch. Afterwards I took her back to my studio. She was very impressed to say the least. Between that, all the flirting that we had been doing, and I’m sure that herb that we’d been smoking contributed and soon enough, we were on the floor, as lovers.

The Similarities

Once, I asked Amanda how she saw her job, what she thought she was doing, beyond just the obvious. She told me that she was like the hostess at a party and that it was her job to make sure that everyone was having a good time and left with a smile on their face. She’d say that many of her customers were just lonely guys looking for a little female companionship. That she was that female who was going to put a smile on their face.

I once read this book; I don’t recall what it was called. It was this story about a woman who, throughout her twenties, worked at a dance club in the 1920’s and into the 1930’s. Lonely men would go into where she worked and, for a price, she would sit and talk with them, and dance with them. It was a world of lonely men with money to spend spending time with younger women in need of that money. There have been times when I’ve been in strip clubs and it has occurred to me that strip clubs have replaced the old dance clubs.

Watching Kathleen “socializing” with those who come to her weekly dinners, I often see what she does with some of those men as very much the same as what Amanda does with her customers. It was quite striking, these often older, alcoholic men with almost no positive prospects for their future. Their reactions to, the way they looked at her were very mush as some of those men reacted to Amanda. For her part Kathleen projects that same hostess of the party making sure everyone is having a good time that Amanda does.

Watching them both I can see that they really enjoy doing what they do.

I have a similar relationship with each. Our relationships have been sporadic yet enduring. It is not unusual to go for a few months with out seeing one or the other and upon reuniting, easily pick up where we left off.

The Differences

I like both Kathleen and Amanda quite a bit, yet I often find myself preferring Amanda, mostly because I like her friends quite a bit more. Kathleen’s friends talk too much about god and are so hypocritical. Recently one of her friends was going on about how we’re all God’s children and we should love everyone, blah, blah… Then within half an hour was complaining about how we (white people) are being overtaken by minorities.

Amanda and the other strippers who are highly irreligious have been consistently much more accepting of other’s differences than have the good Christian church ladies. Plus, you know, strippers have much better parties than do the church ladies.

Hugs

When I hang out with women like Amanda and Kathleen, I’m not always so sure if they like me or are they just them putting on the act that they put on for everyone else. I asked Amanda once, if I really was special to her or was I just another one of her “friends”. She cried, claiming that she was hurt that I could even ask such a thing.

I always think that most women I meet like me but just to be sure I watch and compare as to how they act towards others compared to me. Both of these women come into contact with and hug a lot of different men. Yet, when I look as to how they hug, I see that with most, they hug in such a way as to minimize physical contact. A couple of days ago I went to give Kathleen a goodbye hug and she grabbed me rather tightly and with moans and little whispered words, she shook her stomach and ground up against me.
 

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potato said:
I asked Amanda once, if I really was special to her or was I just another one of her “friends”. She cried, claiming that she was hurt that I could even ask such a thing.
You realize, of course, that she cries for all the guys when they ask her that.

This is a more interesting slice of life, but you are still using words like you're a stranger to society outside the hippie commune town you appear to live in. Most people would not say that you have a "relationship" with Kathleen.

And from your other posts, I don't know where you got this idea that sleeping with a woman makes her your "girlfriend". To everybody else, that word implies some sort of commitment.
 

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If potato isn't a woman and lesbian then I don't know what is. No way does things go down like this in real life between a male and a female, and no way would a male view things like potato does.

edit: you know what I just thought for a second about what potato is trying to say to us. Potato is really just saying what a lot of people here say, that a church girl is not necessarily any better than a "stripper" lol.
 

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Phyzzle said:
You realize, of course, that she cries for all the guys when they ask her that.
Actually not. We have a good relationship, we understand each other. If you’ve read my other posts you’ll see that I have these flirty little interactions with many different women, often just women that I encounter on a regular basis. These interactions that I have with most women are similar to the interactions that Amanda and Kathleen have with the men that they deal with in their chosen occupations.

When I go to see Amanda when she is working, there is a game that we play. Part of it is in watching how people relate to others, the social dynamic of a deranged kind of environment. It can be fun at times, like when she’s in a good mood and I flirt hard with her, get her going, and in a public place where she can do nothing about it - like she’s a captive audience in a provocative way, in a place where touching by either party is strictly forbidden. Mostly though, we tend to point out to each other the oddities, the entertainment value of those around us. We have fun even if it is at somebody else’s expense.

This is a more interesting slice of life, but you are still using words like you're a stranger to society outside the hippie commune town you appear to live in. Most people would not say that you have a "relationship" with Kathleen.
I haven’t told you everything about Kathleen.
 

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potato said:
I haven’t told you everything about Kathleen.
Im breathless - on the edge of my seat.

Hey Potato- Im curious - what do you do for a living ?
 

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Potato..................... Good writing. Cheers!
 

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potato said:
We ended the night with a rather erotic hug and just a sampling of a kiss. Thus began our little affair... I gave him my “the absurdity of the concept of a god” argument. As I spoke, tears welled up in her eyes. It was as if the realization of my absolute disbelief in the god concept was breaking her heart.
If she's having an affair with you, then obviously she doesn't give a sh!t about 'her god'.

Typical Christian hypocrite.
 

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Luthor Rex said:
If she's having an affair with you, then obviously she doesn't give a sh!t about 'her god'.
That is kind of the point. Both of these women hide behind being something that they really aren’t. Kathleen really isn’t a church lady. I’m not so sure she even believes any of it. She just uses god talk and whatnot to gloss over what I guess is the quilt of her situation in life. The whole seeming to care about others is mostly to feed her ego. She looks down on the people that she helps even while she smiles and tells them to have a nice day. She gives them hugs but tells them its god’s work, so that she can keep her distance.

Amanda is much the same way. She too carries a lot of guilt - guilt over the situation of her birth and her position in life. She puts up this whole act about being a big slut party girl when she really isn’t. Amanda looks down on most of her customers. She keeps up the sexually provocative talk so that nothing gets too personal.

This is why I think of this as a subject for the Mature Man Forum. With both of these women most guys fail because they tend to play to the act that she sets up. Here I’ve been able to go directly to the core woman, in both cases, as it appears to me, by us having a sense of being of the same type. Perhaps it is just a common way of looking at the world. Perhaps, because of that common way of looking at the world they are comforted that I won’t judge them badly.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Why did this get moved from the MM forum when Potato has stated his age as being well over 25? What hypocrisy to even have that rule, when a mod can move a thread just because he doesn't like it, or the poster.
 

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Wow you're even older now potato. Good story though. Mildly entertaining.
 
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