Stop pedestalizing chicks with high number based off her looks.

[DaddyLongShanks]

Any guy who claims he doesn't pedestalize attractive women, is either lying or gay (in which he pedestalizes dudes).

We all pedestalize, just to varying degrees.

No we do not! Some of us have been around enough of a variety of it, that we know the game and know how to control ourselves. There are still some who do it to me today, so I didn't say I am one of those as of yet.

 

[guru1000]

Any guy who claims he doesn't pedestalize attractive women, is either lying or gay (in which he pedestalizes dudes).

We all pedestalize, just to varying degrees.

It's not a pedestal in the conventional sense. It's a seesaw, and I am the one looking down. Always.

 

[zekko]

Any guy who claims he doesn't pedestalize attractive women, is either lying or gay (in which he pedestalizes dudes).

We all pedestalize, just to varying degrees.

I don't see why there has to be a pedestal. Scale or no scale, okay, a girl is pretty. So what? Omigosh, what do we do now? Yeah, maybe we'd like to bang her, or try to get to know her better to see if she's worth dating. Where does the pedestal come in? Acknowledging that a girl is attractive is not a pedestal. What do you want to do, only date ugly women?

 

[zinc4]

You pedestal because you put them above uglier women...everyone does it...its the natural law of attraction for guys just like women dominant guys over weaker guys....its just natural.... Nothing goodnir bad...just reality

 

[DragonBlood]

You pedestal because you put them above uglier women...everyone does it...its the natural law of attraction for guys just like women dominant guys over weaker guys....its just natural.... Nothing goodnir bad...just reality

I completely agree. Live in reality, understand and accept your role in it.


You cannot "objectively" make a women less attractive just because she is an ass. You cant talk away beauty. Our instincts deep down know all too well that regardless of her personality if we knock the HB8-9 up she will produce a healthy child, of high status and with good options.


The only people who look down on beauty as not being good enough, or not even important, are typically jaded by their bad experiences. They have given up on what they really want and make excuses to justify it. Worst still, is that because HB8-9 have intrinsic value since birth of course their personality is going to be under developed. They dont need to work on it to get what they want from life! She won the genetic lottery. Good for her. If someone gave you 5 million dollars at birth to do with as you please, do you think you would be as socially developed or motivated as you are now? Only scarcity and hardship develops your personality.

As a side note regarding aging beauties or women on menopause. What typically happens? They become ugly! These are honest signals that she is no long able to produce healthy children, her number goes down, her options go down, pain and suffering increase, and personality quality increases. Your hot babe of 20 years marriage turns into an aging beauty and doesnt give you the tingles no more compared to that 21yo over there no? Tragic. Maybe you are aging as well and your low sex drive and low passion bull****s you into thinking looks dont matter.



Ive put up a thread trying to get over my HB9 ex. She has a horrible personality and is childish over all. So far I have found afew HB7s so I bull**** myself into believing these girls are so much better than where I was before... but after a few weeks by objective comparison I get turned off. You cant lie to your instincts. Completely out of my control, I actually feel bad about it. I almost wish I hadnt brought such beautiful women into my life in the past because it messes with your head. If your body knows you can do better, it wont allow you to enjoy sliding down the scale.

HB7s and below generally have better personality, because they are literally struggling to survive against HB8-9. They have to bring more to the table to build up their options. It is what it is, but dont say beauty isnt important in women. The only real question is are you dominant enough, powerful enough and attractive enough to build up your best options? Do you have the energy required to sustain a HB9 or do you want an easier life with easier women. How easy do you want it? Take a number of your choice.


If you dont have the resources or mental and physical energy to keep a HB9 happy, by definition of genetics alone you dont actually deserve to be with one. Strength breeds strength. It just so happens hers is completely external and yours is completely the internal, if we are talking on the extreme ends, hot girl - dominant guy.


You want the pretty egg, and you will always want it till the day you die.

 

[zinc4]

I'll take a well rounded hb8 for relationship....working on one right now...the 9s are always too made up anyways and not natural with a few exception s of course...

If I want to date a hb9 I'll get an escort in somebthird world country..
Cheaper and less drama..

 

[DragonBlood]

My HB9 was sadly a natural. It can drive a man insane to "go backwards". I will also add that yes people do settle, such as you say zinc on the HB8 for relationship. I believe this comes down to conserving time and energy. That the people who settled for "good enough" and started a family right away completely out bred the people who would have pushed all their lives for only the hottest girls. Settling is a superior breeding strategy long term. That at a certain point in time the energy and time required for finding a replacement mate hits a point of diminishing returns.

So yeah, beauty is everything. But only based on the point you are in life and how much of your energy you want to commit to relationships in general. Beauty underpins almost all of your decisions and behaviors in dating one way or another. Attract what you are. Be aware how your behavior impacts on beauty.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Can you people please post pictures of these 9s that are so easily available to everyone?

 

[Brosy]

IMO: to pedestal is to value a girl above yourself, not other girls.

The minute this mentality manifests itself it's usually game over anyway (be it immediately, or be it a painful end to an unbalanced relationship where you have been the less-dominant particpant).

If you can't overcome the high value you have placed on her, the best you can hope for is that you can inhibit your insecurity long enough to get your end away.

 

[G_Govan]

Unfortunately you have no control over your hindbrain. If she's an 8 to your penis, you can't make her a 5.

I do agree with making a conscious effort not to place good looking women on a pedestal. However, still to this day it requires a lot of mental gymnastics for me.

I basically feel one way but force myself to ignore it or act as though I'm indifferent unless her behavior warrants my attention in a good way.

Women actually employ this tactic instinctively. It's called "feigning disinterest."

 

[Yewki]

IMO: to pedestal is to value a girl above yourself, not other girls.

I actually like your definition more, as to rank ("pedestalize") women above/below other women is pretty normal... it's only bad when you rank one way higher than the others. So the act of ranking women, or pedestalizing a particular woman, isn't by itself a bad thing.

But I would suggest altering your wording a bit. Valuing a woman above "yourself" is a bit ambiguous. Instead something like, to pedestalize is to value a woman as your main priority, above other side interests and hobbies.

 

[zekko]

IMO: to pedestal is to value a girl above yourself, not other girls.

Yeah, that's what it means. I thought everybody knew that, but apparently Brosy here is one of the few posters who actually knows what he's talking about.

To pedestalize means you are looking UP at her. When guys say don't put a girl on a pedestal, it means don't put her above yourself (or your agenda, as Yewki points out). It doesn't mean that you aren't allowed to think that she has any positive traits at all.

 

[DiegoSantori]

If men didn't pedestalize women, the sosuave forum would be empty and OP would not have started this thread.

Men are born to pedestalize women. There was a study demonstrating that after a short interaction with an attractive woman, men experience a decline in mental performance. It's biology, man. It's nature. All you can do is try to stay cool, calm and collected and hope that your hormones don't make you say stupid or weak sh**.

 

[skinnyguy]

If men didn't pedestalize women, the sosuave forum would be empty and OP would not have started this thread.

Men are born to pedestalize women. There was a study demonstrating that after a short interaction with an attractive woman, men experience a decline in mental performance. It's biology, man. It's nature. All you can do is try to stay cool, calm and collected and hope that your hormones don't make you say stupid or weak sh**.

True true.

I think partly to blame is the media and Instagram. These days, you'll see a hot woman on TV and fantasize about her, then go to your room and whack off.

Since the media pedestalizes hot women, we do too. Some of the reporters on FOX News look like porn stars.

The OP thinks that men who pedestalize hot women are beta. Well in that case, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are beta.

I guess we should all be banging ugly women.

 

[silencer]

True true.

I think partly to blame is the media and Instagram. These days, you'll see a hot woman on TV and fantasize about her, then go to your room and whack off.

Since the media pedestalizes hot women, we do too. Some of the reporters on FOX News look like porn stars.

The OP thinks that men who pedestalize hot women are beta. Well in that case, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are beta.

I guess we should all be banging ugly women.

Wrong.

The moral of the story is you don't go for whom you find unattractive. You go for those you find attractive but also look for and choose the QUALITY attractive ones that compliment you in all aspects you as you would them. Otherwise you are simply pedestalizing ANY and ALL attractive women based off LOOKS ONLY and then that is your problem for various reasons.

Insecurity. Need for validation, No self-awareness, no self-reflection, intellectual dishonesty with yourself and others, unable to distinguish between quality and non quality while living in denial.