Stop masturbating

[War Against Betaism]

Your church has told you masturbating is a sin, that you're taking advantage of God's gift by using it to please yourself. This might be true, but that is not the reason for this thread. When you ejaculate, you become exhausted and restless hours later. You lose motivation and your focus is concentrated on just resting. I've read in a book that there are insects who die after ejaculating, it is always assumed that you're ejaculating in order to give birth. There was another study where scientists grouped together two set of worms, the first ejaculated every day and the other didn't. The latter group lived three days longer than the former group.

We obviously don't die after jacking off, and it is pretty absurd to compare human beings to worms, but there are obvious negative effects to ejaculating. We feel unmotivated and sluggish throughout the day, we just want to rest, the life is basically sucked right out of us. It is always talked about here how a true man is always doing something productive, learning, studying, working, etc, and we would want to perform these things at full strength. Yet that isn't possible if we're feeling these things. So if you should beat your wad, only do it before you go to sleep. I know I said to stop masturbating, but that was just to get your attention.

 

[Yoko Kurama]

Ok.

 

[War Against Betaism]

You just wrote that whole rant, then mentioned that if you go to sleep you don't have any loss of energy.

Care to explain where I said this? I said if you should jack off at all only do it before going to sleep because one, you'll be able to sleep easier because you'll be more tired, two you're not going to need any energy when you go to sleep, though I'm not even sure about this too because jacking off raises blood pressure and your heart rate, but please learn how to read.

Probably should have clarified my point clearer as I didn't realize till now that I opened up my statement hinting to stop jacking off period, though the point I'm trying to get across is that masturbating hurts your performance in just about every facet of your life during the day. You get tired and restless and in taoism they define ejaculating as releasing a part of your life force.

And what do you mean by your last point? I'd like to hear this honestly.

 

[Yoko Kurama]

Beta you read Taoism?! Sun Tzu for the win! So do I!

 

[War Against Betaism]

Unfortunately no, lol. The book called "The Multi Orgasmic Man" makes a lot of references to taoist studies made about the great male phenomenon of multi orgasm. Those two studies I mentioned in my original post are from that book as well. The taoists believed that the sperm you release is sort of like your life force and believed in keeping it in your body by strengthening your PC muscles (the muscle in your d1ck where you squeeze out the last drips of piss) and forcing the sperm back into your body. They also believe that by doing this, you'll actually gain energy from keeping the sperm in your body. That study about the worms, the worms that ejaculated lived for 8 days, the ones who didn't 11, the worms that were multi orgasmic lived 15 days. Though the book really did make me interested about Taoism religion.

 

[SinJester]

Spiritual people have been recommending this for a long time, although there is nothing scientific to back it up. People should try different things and see how it affects them. I recall reading a experiment that manage to show that after 7 says without ejaculation testosterone began to decrease, although it had a short peak before that. Also ejaculation does encourage sleep.

The only study I could find measuring testosterone levels of men who didn’t ejaculation for extended periods of time, was research done by Chinese researchers, J Zhejiang Univ Sci. 2003 Mar-Apr;4(2):236-40. The study was done on 28 men who were told to not ejaculate for entire week. It was found that for first 6 days testosterone levels did not change. However, on the 7th day of abstaining, testosterone levels jumped up by nearly 50%. It then declined quickly after that day, therefore abstaining from ejaculation had no long term rising effect.

Recent studies are also showing a significant drop in prostate cancer risk, for men who more frequently ejaculate. According to current research, ejaculation (or sex) is not going to lower your testosterone levels, in either the short term or long term.

This study used rats not humans:

A study by Department of Pharmacobiology, Centro de Investigación y Estudios Avanzados was done on rats to measure sexual satiety and androgen receptors. The rats were measured after a sexual encounter. They measured the testosterone levels afterwards and found no change. They also measured a drop in angrodren receptor density, in the MPOA-medial part of the brain. This receptor density returned 72 hours later. It appears from this study, the lack of sexual desire post ejaculation, may have been from changes in the brain, not from changes in testosterone.

A lot of people believe that ejaculating lowers testosterone which is simply false. In fact abstaining from ejaculating for a long period of time will actually lower it. The 'lack of energy' from masturbating might just be from the lack of sexual desire that follows. Hell I find that helps me concentrate.

Like I said earlier, people should try it and see what works for them. I don't think it makes me 'tired and restless' but maybe 'relaxed'. I also don't think that it make me lose some of my 'life force'. However if it works for you then that’s great.

 

[War Against Betaism]

I've seen the past debates arguing about whether or not ejaculating would lower testosterone. I'm arguing something different though and how it will affect performance during the day.

 

[insidious]

Bah, every few days I rub one out in the shower before bedtime, BFD.
What is the difference between getting laid daily vs getting mentally laid daily? Same effect, that crap shoots out. I would guess that actual sexual intercourse has slightly better cardio benefits...I think Western religion's damnation of the act is just as mindless and ignorant as the BS that Eastern religions spout. Masturbation can be an activity that relieves stress, enjoy it, do not become addicted to it. Very simple.

 

[Huffman]

I second the OP's opinion!

Actually, I feel pretty much the same way - the only time fapping doesn't get me down is when I go to sleep right after.

This obviously implies you only fap every other day or so.

 

[chinwaggler]

i have to admit i feel a bit better when i haven't done it for a while

 

[MoveYourAss...]

Don't care what others tell you

Your chuch is telling you...
Science is telling you...

Fvck that

We have a big problem nowadays with people stupidly believing what others, self-imposed "authorities" tell. Be it chritian, islamic or what ever.

Listen and have YOUR OWN experience.

Mine tells me that too much of whackking off is harmful for your overall drive, particular sex drive, of course.

This seems to be age depended.

My advice: Check it out YOURSELF. As Senhor Fingers pointed out somewhere, if you do not have an errection every morning and occasionally during the day you aere certainly overdoing it.

Some guy says every couple of days is ok for him, and I believe him. Every day is, however, too much. For ME, that is.

Try, and if only as experience, to stay without for 4 weeks. Honestly, what can you loose?

What is the gain if there is no other? POWER over your impulses. The basis of what makes a man.

 

[thechallenger]

ejaculation excretes tryptophan in the brain hence the tiredness that follows
not releasing it regularly makes the body believe, it is not a needed fluid
but too often is bad too.
find a happy medium

 

[loving]

its your decision i noticed masturbating lowers sex drive and attraction
im gonna stop dedicatedly to see hwat kind of motivation that gives me for pickup

 

[ElStud]

haha so true, but a positive about masturbation is you lose the desperation for women. On days I masturbate, I just lose the need to approach and lose that need for a women. On days I don't, I'll be a freaking approach machine.

 

[SinJester]

People should try different things and see how it affects them.

The 'lack of energy' from masturbating might just be from the lack of sexual desire that follows. Hell I find that helps me concentrate.

Like I said earlier, people should try it and see what works for them

I don't think it lowers your energy just your drive for sex, which could be percieved as a lack of energy. If you can use that to get things done that's great. You could say that not masterbating gives you more drive and motivation to get women. However you could also argue that masterbating gives you a cool head and you are less likely to seem desperate. Whatever you find works for you I wont argue.

 

[War Against Betaism]

I should also add that people shouldn't take this advice with the attention it'll boost their chances with women a thousandfold. If you suck with women then you can stop jacking off for 3 months and you're still not gonna get laid. You could pull women 24/7 and jack off 3 times a day. I moreso created it with the intention of productivity in your daily activities, I've noticed it was so much harder for me to read, study and write when I would whack it during the afternoon and morning.

 

[Smack]

Your church has told you masturbating is a sin, that you're taking advantage of God's gift by using it to please yourself. This might be true, but that is not the reason for this thread. When you ejaculate, you become exhausted and restless hours later. You lose motivation and your focus is concentrated on just resting. I've read in a book that there are insects who die after ejaculating, it is always assumed that you're ejaculating in order to give birth. There was another study where scientists grouped together two set of worms, the first ejaculated every day and the other didn't. The latter group lived three days longer than the former group.

We obviously don't die after jacking off, and it is pretty absurd to compare human beings to worms, but there are obvious negative effects to ejaculating. We feel unmotivated and sluggish throughout the day, we just want to rest, the life is basically sucked right out of us. It is always talked about here how a true man is always doing something productive, learning, studying, working, etc, and we would want to perform these things at full strength. Yet that isn't possible if we're feeling these things. So if you should beat your wad, only do it before you go to sleep. I know I said to stop masturbating, but that was just to get your attention.

Well I'm not a religious person so I don't have a church. In fact, that they class it as sin makes it all the more appealing!

 

[Night Owl]

If you like it then do it. Don't worry if it lowers this or raises that or if some religions frown upon it - who cares. Find a happy medium that suits you and give yourself some enjoyment if required. Remember: there isn't any boxes of tissues in your coffins. Better to die totally whacked out than not at all.

Personally, if I am not having sex, and the mood takes me then I do it. Bed time is a favourite time, and it makes the best natural sleeping drug in the world.

 

[Lexington]

You provided no evidence to back up your claims. Worms are separated from humans by millions of years of evolution and we share very little in common with them physiologically.

There are however, numerous studies which indicate that masturbation is a healthy activity. Numerous studies have found evidence to suggest that masturbation reduces the risk for prostate cancer:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352278,00.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm

Perhaps it effects different people in different ways, but it sure doesn't make me particularly tired and it doesn't make me lose interest as you claim. It is well-established fact that overwhelming majority of men and a substantial percentage of women masturbate.

 

[War Against Betaism]

Over the years I've garnered enough testimonials from people who have noticed they have gotten noticeably more tired during the day when they jacked off in the morning. Well if you're different, you're different.