Stop feeling sympathy for Incels, quite a few are awful people.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Are you sure you black? cause as I said before I tend to see only broke black men or black men who don't have options dating bottom feeders and that goes for any race. Upward mobile black men are killing it

When I was growing up in Atlanta, it was somewhat taboo to see black men dating and getting with good looking white girls. Like, it happened, but as others on this thread have said, she was usually trashy or lower status. Around 2015 or so, something seriously changed in the US with white women and interracial dating. I think at some point, white women saw white men experimenting around with different races and said screw it out of rebellion.

Now, I have seen some top notch beckies getting with black dudes even in a southern city like Atlanta. It is normal now with the younger groups and accepted. If the guy is a star football player in high school, you can bet that he has gotten with a cute white girl. The type of black dudes I see absolutely kill it though are Hipster black dudes, they get such a big range of women to date and get with.

It's not just black men either, other minorities are getting in on the action too.

When I moved to Manhattan many years ago, it was unheard of to see white women with anything other than black or white men. Around 2018 or so, it became common to see them with Asian, Indian, and especially Latino men.

 

[Solomon]

When I was growing up in Atlanta, it was somewhat taboo to see black men dating and getting with good looking white girls. Like, it happened, but as others on this thread have said, she was usually trashy or lower status. Around 2015 or so, something seriously changed in the US with white women and interracial dating. I think at some point, white women saw white men experimenting around with different races and said screw it out of rebellion.

Now, I have seen some top notch beckies getting with black dudes even in a southern city like Atlanta. It is normal now with the younger groups and accepted. If the guy is a star football player in high school, you can bet that he has gotten with a cute white girl. The type of black dudes I see absolutely kill it though are Hipster black dudes, they get such a big range of women to date and get with.

It's not just black men either, other minorities are getting in on the action too.

When I moved to Manhattan many years ago, it was unheard of to see white women with anything other than black or white men. Around 2018 or so, it became common to see them with Asian, Indian, and especially Latino men.

I think the shift you talking about in 2015 is Generation Z
They are far more progressive and liberal when it comes to dating
One of my gripes with Generation Z tho is they are trying to push that cuck Poly life and I'm not rocking with that

 

[CollegeMan22]

I think the shift you talking about in 2015 is Generation Z
They are far more progressive and liberal when it comes to dating
One of my gripes with Generation Z tho is they are trying to push that cuck Poly life and I'm not rocking with that

On my campus, there are a ton of Asians, especially Indians. I do not recall ever seeing an Indian man with at least a 4/10 non-fat White woman. The stereotype is generally true: they are extremely focused on their computing careers, and have no idea how to interact socially, especially with women. Our college had a "speed dating" event and it was 20:1 male to female, with all the Indian guys coming in suits. I asked a few girls after how it went down, and they said they were assaulted by men asking for their Instagram accounts. They would agree to give it to them . . . and then immediately reject their friend request. Even the fact that these men think that an Instagram account is an accomplishment says something about their sexual experience.

The poly thing is definitely growing with my generation. I think it is disgusting and especially bad for men. It's literally allowing your girl to get screwed by other guys. That is clearly going to destroy any singular attraction/attachment she has to you. The groups that accept polyamory are generally the same ones where face piercings and weed smoking are common. Not the type of people I would hang out with.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I think the shift you talking about in 2015 is Generation Z
They are far more progressive and liberal when it comes to dating
One of my gripes with Generation Z tho is they are trying to push that cuck Poly life and I'm not rocking with that

Poly girls on OLD are the worst. They're getting D on the reg, they want to make you wait and there's no ability to seduce her with the prospect of an LTR. And yet they're thinking it's an attractive status like being "bi" was back in the 90's. Avoid.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

On my campus, there are a ton of Asians, especially Indians. I do not recall ever seeing an Indian man with at least a 4/10 non-fat White woman. The stereotype is generally true: they are extremely focused on their computing careers, and have no idea how to interact socially, especially with women. Our college had a "speed dating" event and it was 20:1 male to female, with all the Indian guys coming in suits. I asked a few girls after how it went down, and they said they were assaulted by men asking for their Instagram accounts. They would agree to give it to them . . . and then immediately reject their friend request. Even the fact that these men think that an Instagram account is an accomplishment says something about their sexual experience.

The poly thing is definitely growing with my generation. I think it is disgusting and especially bad for men. It's literally allowing your girl to get screwed by other guys. That is clearly going to destroy any singular attraction/attachment she has to you. The groups that accept polyamory are generally the same ones where face piercings and weed smoking are common. Not the type of people I would hang out with.

It is still very location dependent and as I have said in a big thread of mines, college is an abnormally tough place to score since status is everything there. If yours is an engineering school, even worse. I am not saying that your typical Asian or Indian dude is pulling white girls here. What I was getting at is that there are now a sizable number of Asian and Indian men who joined fraternities in college (at cool schools like Ohio St, Arizona St, USC, etc.), assimilated with the popular/preppy White crowd, and dated girls from that crowd as a result.

The other scene I saw this in a lot of was the hipster scene. Asian and Indian dudes with white girls seemed pretty common in Williamsburg and Bushwick whenever I visited.

Compared to white guys with Asian or Indian girls though, it is still rare.

 

[Bokanovsky]

If you read stuff on the Incel and Black Pilled communities, you notice how so many of them are genuinely hateful towards women and feel entitled to them. You see how dark the minds of a lot of these men really are. You see how so many of these men are hateful of other human beings whether it is based on that person's nationality, race, gender, or whatever. Then one day, these people crack and they start randomly harming a whole bunch of people with absolute violence.

While most Incels will not resort to being like ER, they have that hatred in their hearts. Now one can say which came first, the chicken or the egg. Did a lack of attention from women turn these men evil? Or, were these men evil from the start and women just picked up on it?

I offer another take. Incels are failed experiments from life. Most of them cannot provide value to women in any sort of a legitimate way, have awful social skills, and quite a few are deep down bad people. Then, to top it all off, the have the biggest egos and pride out there in the most insane of ways.

You cannot coach these men into being better with women because they "know" more than you based on their basement dwelling theories.

We need to stop feeling sorry for these people and be glad that they are not reproducing. There are enough people in the world already and we know quite a few of these wicked men would not make for decent fathers.

They are not "failed experiments". But they are a product of the collective failure of their parents, teachers and the society as a whole.
No one is born an incel, just like one is born a serial killer. These people are a product of their environment. Do I feel bad for them? No, not particularly. Do I think that conditions that lead to men becoming incels have to be better understood and addressed? Absolutely. By all accounts, the incel ranks are swelling rapidly. When there are too many of them, society will collapse. It's not confidence that most mass murderers in recent history have been incels.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Is your cousins wife hot? most men date or marry down economically I'm not arguing that
Once again I have no dog in this fight but if you go to the cities I mentioned prior than you guys would know to be wrong. The black men that have money are killing it with hot chicks.

At the risk of sidetracking this tread, I've always wondered why it is SO important for black dudes to date women who are NOT black. Sure there are white and asian guys who prefer women of other races but they are a small minority. The majority of white and asian guys are most attracted to women of their own race. For blacks, the opposite seems to be true. Just about every black guy would prefer a woman who is not black. Is this some kind of racial self-hate? Or a social stratification thing (i.e. you are considered less ghetto and more "middle class" if you're dating a non-black woman)?

 

[CBear]

Is your cousins wife hot? most men date or marry down economically I'm not arguing that
Once again I have no dog in this fight but if you go to the cities I mentioned prior than you guys would know to be wrong. The black men that have money are killing it with hot chicks.

I'm an Eastern European living in one of the 3 big cities that you mentioned and I usually wonder whether black guys have very low confidence or have a deep self hatred because even with the ones that look like they take care of themselves, I see them with white women that most European men would think are absolutely disgusting and trashy. I'm not speaking for all black guys, but I notice this in most. In may just be a different perception, however (like one man's trash is another man's treasure). Im not judging whatsoever, as I'm dating outside of my race, because I can't stand liberal American woman.

 

[MatureDJ]

As I await the fate of my health, I feel like it has to be said. We as men try to feel sorry for dudes that struggle to meet women and get laid. On here, we see them as victims of society or victims of some sort. Some of us even believe that these losers are entitled to a woman because in our heads, we think that this Incel is just some sad innocent boy who could turn into an Angel if he found the right one. If only he found the right one, he would have never resorted to an evil act like the kind of stuff you see on the news.

Here is the truth no one wants to acknowledge, Incels are usually awful people and women just pick up on this matter fast.

If you read stuff on the Incel and Black Pilled communities, you notice how so many of them are genuinely hateful towards women and feel entitled to them. You see how dark the minds of a lot of these men really are. You see how so many of these men are hateful of other human beings whether it is based on that person's nationality, race, gender, or whatever. Then one day, these people crack and they start randomly harming a whole bunch of people with absolute violence.

While most Incels will not resort to being like ER, they have that hatred in their hearts. Now one can say which came first, the chicken or the egg. Did a lack of attention from women turn these men evil? Or, were these men evil from the start and women just picked up on it?

I offer another take. Incels are failed experiments from life. Most of them cannot provide value to women in any sort of a legitimate way, have awful social skills, and quite a few are deep down bad people. Then, to top it all off, the have the biggest egos and pride out there in the most insane of ways.

You cannot coach these men into being better with women because they "know" more than you based on their basement dwelling theories.

We need to stop feeling sorry for these people and be glad that they are not reproducing. There are enough people in the world already and we know quite a few of these wicked men would not make for decent fathers.

So short and/or ugly people are "awful" - got it!

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

So short and/or ugly people are "awful" - got it!

There are countless short and ugly men out there who make it work and get a girlfriend, a wife, or get laid. Lots of guys out there who may be short and ugly but move on from the dating game and do other productive things in life. Those men are not awful at all. However, short and ugly men that feel entitled to supermodels and complain about the sexual market place nonstop every day online while feeling entitled to a society where leeches and parasites like them can get supermodels at will while semi-homosexually worshiping male models are awful human beings. Especially when you add in the bitterness, racism, sexism, and hatred they are full of.

 

[DonJuanjr]

At the risk of sidetracking this tread, I've always wondered why it is SO important for black dudes to date women who are NOT black. Sure there are white and asian guys who prefer women of other races but they are a small minority. The majority of white and asian guys are most attracted to women of their own race. For blacks, the opposite seems to be true. Just about every black guy would prefer a woman who is not black. Is this some kind of racial self-hate? Or a social stratification thing (i.e. you are considered less ghetto and more "middle class" if you're dating a non-black woman)?

I relative(white) exclusively dated black men. She stated that they spoke of this. What they usually said was "I go for white women because black women are so overbearing with bad attitudes."

 

[patb]

So short and/or ugly people are "awful" - got it!

Yeah, "no one" wants to admit Low Status Male Bad. What a daring and original hot take. Next he'll tell me Hitler was no good.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news OP, but you'd be considered an "awful person" by the overwhelming majority of society in your own right (and in this case, they'd likely be right). Your posts exude conceit and malice.

Also, your fit of public hypochondria is comical. Get a grip already.

 

[Solomon]

The poly thing is definitely growing with my generation. I think it is disgusting and especially bad for men. It's literally allowing your girl to get screwed by other guys. That is clearly going to destroy any singular attraction/attachment she has to you. The groups that accept polyamory are generally the same ones where face piercings and weed smoking are common. Not the type of people I would hang out with.

It blows my mind how the Poly thing has blown up, especially the last 5 years. The scary part is, it will continue to be normalized because

-A lot of men are thirsty and lack respect
-Inflation and high cost of living will make buying a house unaffordable in the near future(heck for most Americans it already is especially Millenials and Gen Z) but also renting is getting expensive as well. I can see 2 men living with 1 woman. It sounds crazy but you're already starting to see this a little

Poly girls on OLD are the worst. They're getting D on the reg, they want to make you wait and there's no ability to seduce her with the prospect of an LTR. And yet they're thinking it's an attractive status like being "bi" was back in the 90's. Avoid.

It's crazy how you see more and more poly profiles, the crazy part is Poly chicks are sexually more out there cause they don't regularly get tested

I'm an Eastern European living in one of the 3 big cities that you mentioned and I usually wonder whether black guys have very low confidence or have a deep self hatred because even with the ones that look like they take care of themselves, I see them with white women that most European men would think are absolutely disgusting and trashy. I'm not speaking for all black guys, but I notice this in most. In may just be a different perception, however (like one man's trash is another man's treasure). Im not judging whatsoever, as I'm dating outside of my race, because I can't stand liberal American woman.

As I said if you see a black man with a unattractive White women it's usually cause he's broke. Do you see attractive BM with unattractive WW(just like you probably see attractive BM with unattractive BW) sure we call them hobosexuals (those are the type of men that women pay their bills and what not) obviously I can't speak for all black men but in general those are the reasons you see a lot of BM with unattractive or fat WW cause

1. That's the best they can get
2. She is letting him drive the car and pays rent
3. He's in a drought
4. Other reasons

also, a lot of white men would find this women below fat, but for a black well we call them pawgs and go ham for these white women

At the risk of sidetracking this tread, I've always wondered why it is SO important for black dudes to date women who are NOT black. Sure there are white and asian guys who prefer women of other races but they are a small minority. The majority of white and asian guys are most attracted to women of their own race. For blacks, the opposite seems to be true. Just about every black guy would prefer a woman who is not black. Is this some kind of racial self-hate? Or a social stratification thing (i.e. you are considered less ghetto and more "middle class" if you're dating a non-black woman)?

Most black men still date and marry Black Women(90% for marriage according to the CDC) . So this whole thing about every black man wanting a white or non black woman isn't true. Just because you may see a lot of interracial dating hype on social media doesn't mean it plays out like that in real life. The black male population is very small and 90% of white women would never marry a black man much less have sex with one. White women know that dealing with black men isn't a status symbol but loss even for this white chick dating a professioal (overseas) bball Player who is a millionaire

 

[Stanley]

This thread is sad

 

[DonJuanjr]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news OP, but you'd be considered an "awful person" by the overwhelming majority of society in your own right (and in this case, they'd likely be right). Your posts exude conceit and malice.

What's happening is, some men want this forum to be a secret society of players. Not the men's help site that it is. So they are quite negative with their posts towards those that aren't players, or are not successful with women.

 

[CollegeMan22]

also, a lot of white men would find this women below fat, but for a black well we call them pawgs and go ham for these white women

What the f*ck did the second one inject into her thighs? Whale blubber?

 

[Stanley]

What's happening is, some men want this forum to be a secret society of players. Not the men's help site that it is. So they are quite negative with their posts towards those that aren't players, or are not successful with women.

Bingo. There really are two prominent camps on this site and the genuine posters read clear as day. I dislike anyone attempting to bring another person down, especially a man that isn't lucky with the ladies. A lot of posters here hop on this hate train of bitterness and its pathetic.

 

[patb]

There are countless short and ugly men out there who make it work and get a girlfriend, a wife, or get laid. Lots of guys out there who may be short and ugly but move on from the dating game and do other productive things in life. Those men are not awful at all. However, short and ugly men that feel entitled to supermodels and complain about the sexual market place nonstop every day online while feeling entitled to a society where leeches and parasites like them can get supermodels at will while semi-homosexually worshiping male models are awful human beings. Especially when you add in the bitterness, racism, sexism, and hatred they are full of.

You have zero basis to call anyone else "leeches and parasites." Sexually successful men are usually the biggest leeches and parasites around. As strawmen go, it doesn't even make sense. The modal incel is probably a small framed introvert who works in IT.

Everyone loves to throw the term "entitlement" around, like it's some kind of game-ending indictment. Two can play that game. If you're going to force a man out of the gene pool so a litany of vacuous charlatans can have a rotation, you're not entitled to him going quietly.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

You have zero basis to call anyone else "leeches and parasites." Sexually successful men are usually the biggest leeches and parasites around. As strawmen go, it doesn't even make sense. The modal incel is probably a small framed introvert who works in IT.

Everyone loves to throw the term "entitlement" around, like it's some kind of game-ending indictment. Two can play that game. If you're going to force a man out of the gene pool so a litany of vacuous charlatans can have a rotation, you're not entitled to him going quietly.

No they are not. Sexually successful men are successful because they have something to offer that women want to invest in. They aren't parasites, they are valuable because people value them. Can men who suck with women be valuable? Yes, through other means than sex. Can ugly and short men be valuable to women and society in a sexual way? Yes, but they have to compensate for it in other ways.

You aren't entitled to a woman or even entitled to reproduce, that is not true in most species or really any out there. Don't like it? Talk to Mother Nature, don't shoot the messenger.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

It blows my mind how the Poly thing has blown up, especially the last 5 years. The scary part is, it will continue to be normalized because

-A lot of men are thirsty and lack respect
-Inflation and high cost of living will make buying a house unaffordable in the near future(heck for most Americans it already is especially Millenials and Gen Z) but also renting is getting expensive as well. I can see 2 men living with 1 woman. It sounds crazy but you're already starting to see this a little



It's crazy how you see more and more poly profiles, the crazy part is Poly chicks are sexually more out there cause they don't regularly get tested



As I said if you see a black man with a unattractive White women it's usually cause he's broke. Do you see attractive BM with unattractive WW(just like you probably see attractive BM with unattractive BW) sure we call them hobosexuals (those are the type of men that women pay their bills and what not) obviously I can't speak for all black men but in general those are the reasons you see a lot of BM with unattractive or fat WW cause

1. That's the best they can get
2. She is letting him drive the car and pays rent
3. He's in a drought
4. Other reasons

also, a lot of white men would find this women below fat, but for a black well we call them pawgs and go ham for these white women

Most black men still date and marry Black Women(90% for marriage according to the CDC) . So this whole thing about every black man wanting a white or non black woman isn't true. Just because you may see a lot of interracial dating hype on social media doesn't mean it plays out like that in real life. The black male population is very small and 90% of white women would never marry a black man much less have sex with one. White women know that dealing with black men isn't a status symbol but loss even for this white chick dating a professioal (overseas) bball Player who is a millionaire

It is so adorable when Euro dudes get bitter and angry over black men and Muslims going for their women. Meanwhile, no other continent or group travels to the world solely for the purpose of getting laid like Euro men do. Now the same group of men in the EU are turning sour and bitter because women seem to go for black men.

I also disagree with the notion that Black men cannot slay in the EU. In most EU countries, a cool black guy is a massive catch. The Euros are suckers for things like basketball, rap music, and have an inferiority complex towards American culture so the youth there are always watching American movies and listening to American music. In most developed Western European countries, black men slay like crazy. Even the footballers for the most part are black and women go crazy for them.

I'd say black men do even better in Europe than they do in the US. Way too much white guilt in places like Germany, France, Scandinavia and the UK so the women almost feel obligated to suck a black ****.

The Euro men that seem to hate it are from undeveloped dumps in Eastern Europe and the Mediterranean. It's not going to get any better either, with every passing generation, more and more Euro girls want the BBC.