Stop BS'ing yourself....

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Let's be honest. You're here because you can't get a girl, you lost a girl, you want the girl you lost back, you want a new girl or you want lots of girls.

Common threads here include but are not limited to...

"she said let's be friends"

"she flaked on me"

"she won't return my calls/texts"

"she's disrespecting me"

"she doesn't give me sex anymore"

"she's distant"

"she cheated"

"she left"

"asked her out, got rejected"


Now we can talk about why girls act the way they act. Feminism, female's lack of respect, character, how it was different 30 years ago & how they're all shallow, selfish b!tches but there's always one recurring factor in every situation, you, US, MEN.

Take a long hard objective look in the mirror & ask yourself if you're really deserving of the treatment you want from females. Most you, most of us want the easy way out, shortcuts. We want a quick fix, we're not willing to put in the hard work needed to get the results we want.

Consider this....


f283000 said:
There's no magical way or trick to prevent girls from flaking. If I knew it I would sell it on a book and be rich right now. There's no way to prevent that brother, sorry.

HOWEVER, the only way of reducing the chances of flaking is by becoming the man that women want.

Work on improving yourself. Work out, build some hobbies, educate yourself, dress well, look good, smell good, build a social circle.

The more you work on yourself as a man the more valuable you become. The more valuable you become the less likely women will flake on you since you are a hot commodity.

Not only that but once you have your life in check you won't really care much about women flaking. It's when we don't have a good life of our own and have too much time on our hands that flaking kills us. When you spend your free time on video games flaking will hurt. When you spend your free time on hobbies that are improving you then it won't hurt as much.

Another point is that getting women is a number's game. If you are affected by a woman flaking on you then YOU HAVEN'T ASKED OUT ENOUGH WOMEN!

The more women you ask out the more more experience you will get (and more rejections you will get). Rejections won't mean anything at all once you've asked out enough girls. Take this as a sign that you still need to ask out A LOT MORE GIRLS if you are affected by flaking.
This post right here is what you need to change your success with women.

I was at the pool yesterday practicing my swimming(I do it for cardio & to increase my skill in the water), young decent to good looking chicks with young decent to good looking dudes & they all seemed to know each other. The males seemed to have their sh!t together inside & out & the chicks they were kissing & feeling up seemed to validate this observation. These guys aren't out of shape, on an internet forum b!tching about the world & they aren't socially awkward nerds either. One of em even introduced himself to me & raced me.

I'm mad at myself now, years ago my cousin tried to get me into elite shape. Had I put in the hard work at 14-15, I'd be reaping the benefits & wouldn't even be on this site. Had I already put in the work, things that are easy now would be lolworthy & things that are difficult would be easy. I know now that I have to start now so that a year from now I'm not in the same position saying the same stuff, doing the same stuff.

I've already made new friends, started working out, running, swimming & learning American sports. I'm laying the ground work now so I don't have to whine later. I've actually become fond of my current misery because I know I'll break through it.

Kirro, TL; DR, what is the point of all this babble. The point is I'm tired of people complaining & not offering solutions, I'm tired of users looking for a quick fix it, trying to live in the now & still having to come back to b!tch about the same shyte.

Work now play later or try to play now & fail miserably at it like you're already doing.
 

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You forgot one other reason some members are here:

"gloating about how they are better than everyone else"


As if the OP can get any girl, never lost as girl, doesn't want a girl he did lose, doesn't want a new girl and doesn't want lots of girls.

Maybe some of us are here because we want better girls than the ones we already have?
 

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This is one of my golden life rules:

When dealing with other people, if you keep getting the same feedback - it's not them, its YOU.

Guys complain to me that girls are *****es or people are rude, or blah blah, I can walk to the same people and they will be nice and genuine

It is ALWAYS You when dealing with a large number of people. Your attitude, your world view is what your world is. Read the previous sentence twice. What you want to see is what you will reinforce in your mind and see(get) more of.



But looking in the mirror honestly and looking within and asking the hardest question is why guys leer around this site and continue to regurgitate stuff that hardly matters.

That question is:

"Will people like me if I am truly myself?"

And the answer is generally "yes" Even if you are a dork, as long as you are a dork that doesn't apologize for being a dork because that's who he is, you will find women who will vibe with you and you will get a healthy relationship


same thing can't be said for a "playa" who beds women but can't maintain it because when it's time to open up, he is so scared he flees



Pain is a powerful emotion, it hurts. But to accept that life MUST AND WILL have be painful at some point, but you will get up and keep going is THE source of true confidence. Most of the guys you will meet, especially in clubs, don't realize this and replace confidence with arrogance
 

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@Neil - [insert obligatory insult that references your failings at reading comprehension]

What part of my post implied that I am better than everyone else? What part implied that I am the ultimate, all knowing DJ/jerk/alpha male/hot sauce?

I'm really wondering what the basis is for your ASSumptions.

Did you even see the part where I mention that I should have started the improvement process years ago & that I am currently still in a developmental phase?

My entire post was, get off your rear, stop blaming women, stop whining, stop complaining & start doing stuff that benefits you. I even highlighted a post that summarized the things you can/should do to get yourself the sex life you want.


& if you're here because you want better girls than you already have, try being a better dude than you already are.
 

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I'm here for one reason:

To help the new generation understand and implement the tools at their disposal in the game of women.

I went through it all in my teens and early twenties; most of it is documented here since I've been a member for so long.

But this board has helped me surpass my potential. I have no trouble getting women, but I like helping people see the light on their journey.





PIMP
 

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bigneil said:
You forgot one other reason some members are here:

"gloating about how they are better than everyone else"


As if the OP can get any girl, never lost as girl, doesn't want a girl he did lose, doesn't want a new girl and doesn't want lots of girls.

Maybe some of us are here because we want better girls than the ones we already have?
Wow.

I've never seen someone miss the point this badly.
 

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Solid topic, Kirro.

I've had my moments where complaining about women made me feel better about myself, but all it did was condone my lack of action which allows the vicious cycle to continue.

I'm in the tough position that I'm currently in (Virgin at 23) because I never took any risks and did nothing more than sit around and refuse to live my life. No amount of complaining could ever change that fact. Full of so many regrets right now....but I just have to let those things go and start making some serious changes.
 

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Kirro said:
What part of my post implied that I am better than everyone else? What part implied that I am the ultimate, all knowing DJ/jerk/alpha male/hot sauce?

I'm really wondering what the basis is for your ASSumptions.
Don't sweat BigKneel. He's pissed because no one takes him seriously. This was a poor attempt at interjecting himself to garner some attention.

Did you even see the part where I mention that I should have started the improvement process years ago & that I am currently still in a developmental phase?
I doubt he stood up long enough to read this portion.

-if you're here because you want better girls than you already have, try being a better dude than you already are.
This is good.
 

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Kirro said:
What part of my post implied that I am better than everyone else?
Let's see -

Kirro said:
I was at the pool yesterday (with) good looking dudes (who) seemed to have their sh!t together inside & out ... These guys aren't out of shape, on an internet forum b!tching about the world & they aren't socially awkward nerds either. One of em even introduced himself to me...
Wow you must be a really cool guy if good looking dudes who are too good for this forum introduced themselves to you.

Kirro said:
The chicks they were kissing & feeling up seemed to validate this observation.
One was probably KarmaSutra's ex wife.
 

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I realize the OP probably meant well but he could have been a little more tactful.
 

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Kirro said:
Let's be honest. You're here because you can't get a girl, you lost a girl, you want the girl you lost back, you want a new girl or you want lots of girls.

Common threads here include but are not limited to...

"she said let's be friends"

"she flaked on me"

"she won't return my calls/texts"

"she's disrespecting me"

"she doesn't give me sex anymore"

"she's distant"

"she cheated"

"she left"

"asked her out, got rejected"


Now we can talk about why girls act the way they act. Feminism, female's lack of respect, character, how it was different 30 years ago & how they're all shallow, selfish b!tches but there's always one recurring factor in every situation, you, US, MEN.

Take a long hard objective look in the mirror & ask yourself if you're really deserving of the treatment you want from females. Most you, most of us want the easy way out, shortcuts. We want a quick fix, we're not willing to put in the hard work needed to get the results we want.

Consider this....




This post right here is what you need to change your success with women.

I was at the pool yesterday practicing my swimming(I do it for cardio & to increase my skill in the water), young decent to good looking chicks with young decent to good looking dudes & they all seemed to know each other. The males seemed to have their sh!t together inside & out & the chicks they were kissing & feeling up seemed to validate this observation. These guys aren't out of shape, on an internet forum b!tching about the world & they aren't socially awkward nerds either. One of em even introduced himself to me & raced me.

I'm mad at myself now, years ago my cousin tried to get me into elite shape. Had I put in the hard work at 14-15, I'd be reaping the benefits & wouldn't even be on this site. Had I already put in the work, things that are easy now would be lolworthy & things that are difficult would be easy. I know now that I have to start now so that a year from now I'm not in the same position saying the same stuff, doing the same stuff.

I've already made new friends, started working out, running, swimming & learning American sports. I'm laying the ground work now so I don't have to whine later. I've actually become fond of my current misery because I know I'll break through it.

Kirro, TL; DR, what is the point of all this babble. The point is I'm tired of people complaining & not offering solutions, I'm tired of users looking for a quick fix it, trying to live in the now & still having to come back to b!tch about the same shyte.

Work now play later or try to play now & fail miserably at it like you're already doing.
+1 and repped

Why am I still here? I enjoy the topics and feedback from various members, but most of all to become reinspired. This site inspired me intially to step my game up. Like OP I shoulda focused on my finances/working out/spiritual side etc. I'm the worst shape of my life and now I'm taking it one day at a time trying to improve on things that matter moreso then women
 

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bigneil said:
I realize the OP probably meant well but he could have been a little more tactful.
The post was perfectly tactful.

All he was saying is that guys here need to stop complaining about women and work on improving themselves.

Even in the quote that you selected...

Originally Posted by Kirro
I was at the pool yesterday (with) good looking dudes (who) seemed to have their sh!t together inside & out ... These guys aren't out of shape, on an internet forum b!tching about the world & they aren't socially awkward nerds either. One of em even introduced himself to me...
...He was giving you a real-life example of guys who are doing well with women. He wasn't saying that it made him special to know these guys.

All I see in Kirro's post is a guy who took the time to write something to inspire people. Which is great considering that most of the message board is people whining about women.
 

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Well Iceberg (or should I call you Kirro) if you think it's perfectly tactful to refer to forum members as "out of shape (guys) on an internet forum b!tching (and BS'ing themselves) about the world (who are) socially awkward nerds" then I disagree.
 

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bigneil said:
Well Iceberg (or should I call you Kirro) if you think it's perfectly tactful to refer to forum members as "out of shape (guys) on an internet forum b!tching (and BS'ing themselves) about the world (who are) socially awkward nerds" then I disagree.
Why is it that you're the only one taking offense at minor things that may not even apply to you? Do tell.
 

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Great post Kirro. Unfortunately people will always seek the "quick fix" that they're talking about. People are generally lazy and dislike hard work, discipline and the pain/austerity that comes with it. This is a great advantage for those of us who are willing to suffer, put in the work and reap the rewards of our actions. I'm glad you're trying to inspire people, but don't inspire them too much!
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Kirro, I stand corrected. Obviously I took things the wrong way and fortunately nobody else did.
 

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bigneil said:
Kirro, I stand corrected. Obviously I took things the wrong way and fortunately nobody else did.
No worries mate. I'm glad things didn't devolve into some petty squabble.

I want to thank everyone for the positive feedback & of course I wish you all the best on this journey & of course, shout out to Fuglydude.

The intention of this thread isn't for me to be some forum leader, I don't care to be the next Pook or Anti-Dump, I just want to play my part in moving this board into a proactive & positive direction. I read another topic earlier where a user pointed out that if we're tired of the way the forum is we can

A) Leave
B) Try to inspire people & uplift the board
C) Continue to whine

I'm not leaving, guys like Fuglydude, Pimp-sicle, Iceberg, Rollo, Kailex, Pastor Igetit!, Jophil, Judge Nismo & more offer great advice that helps me everyday, a lot of it I already knew on instinct but reading it over & over reinforces something in me.

Today I went to the track, previously I had run 7 laps. Now its a pretty large track & at first I could barely even finish 1 lap...in less than 2 weeks I could run 7. I used to quit when it got tough, stop when my legs hurt & collapse when my lungs ached. My friend looked at me, disappointed, angry....he used to say.."why are you stopping? you're only hurting yourself!"

Why are you stopping? You're only hurting yourself.

It hit home. I immediately understand, this mirrors our journey with women & our journey to better ourselves. It was then I came face to face with my biggest enemy. My own weakness, my own laziness, my own doubt. Years ago when I was 15 my cousin would say similar words when I gave up mid way through a race with him. Eventually he just gave up & let me be. I quit then & I'm feeling it now. I currently exist in an odd limbo, I'm not bad by any stretch of the imagination but I'm not that great, I'm not exceptional & this haunts me, it bugs me when I sleep.

Today I went to the track, determined to beat my previous record of 7 laps. I went in focused, I promised myself I wouldn't stop. I actually reached 7 laps quite easily, my body has obviously given me more endurance to work with but by lap 8 I felt the fatigue, I felt the burn, I felt my lungs giving out on me. & the point I was ready to stop, I saw visions of my past, I saw my best moments & how I wanted to relive them, I saw my worst moments & how I never wanted to experience them again & I saw a future, an image of myself looking the way I wanted to look, talking the way I wanted to talk & screwing the females I wanna screw.

As if from nowhere at all I felt a burst of energy, I broke through a barrier within myself & experienced a peace within myself, for the next lap & a half I wasn't even aware that I was still running. It quickly wore off & my body finally gave out after 24:40 mins.....10 laps.:up:

Don't ever stop, you'll only hurt yourself in the long run. Summon the will to start & then summon more will to keep going. Always look to be better than you were a day ago, a hour ago, a minute ago & if possible better than you were a second ago. Never give up, never give in.

Let's all work together to become the quality men we know we can be, whether you're 17 or 70. I'm right here with you, I'm busting my azz just like all of you are/should be. I'm not just saying this shyte for rep to appease my ego, I'm not some arrogant prick, I'm on the same path you are, doing the same stuff you are.

I'm fully confident that there'll be a thread pretty soon where I say, I scored 7 chicks last month, I'm going for 10 this one.:D How bout you?
 

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The way I see it is you either live your life or you don't. You either do things that make you great and continue doing them or you let something affect you where your life suffers. There is no other way if you think about it.

Who really wants to sit on his death bed saying "I had a great time not taking any risks, not trying anything new and not even realizing what I want in life or who I am"

You get one life, good thing about it, you have a lot of time to figure out who you are and there are plenty of cool things to do. But you are constantly bombarded with outside opinions messages energy and the key is to stay true to yourself and reaffirm who you are with each challenge.
 
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