Stop being so nice.

[skinnyguy]

I used to work with this guy named Chris Packard. He was a complete narcissistic a-hole and I hated him to the core. However, not only did I notice that he was keeping his job...he was also going up.

With women and with work, you have to be a jerk in order to succeed. There's no other way.

The problem with depression is that it is the "niceness" disease. When you're depressed about not getting a girlfriend or getting laid, you become even nicer. You don't want to make other people upset. But by doing this you are putting their needs first, not your own.

If you don't act on it, you'll explode sooner or later. Just look at the Aurora, Colorado shooter. He was a beta guy who was angry with the world for not getting laid not not having friends. So he went ballistic and shot 20 people.

When you start realizing that you'll get your way more by being an a**, things will really start to change. But here's the kicker - women respect you more when you're not nice to them. I tried this out at work and it really worked well. If you are in a subordinate position at work, and you're talking to other women, you need to talk like you're the boss or else they will walk over you. Similarly, if you're out and about, you need to act like you own the place and you don't take sh*t from anybody, or else they won't respect you (especially if you're not good looking).

At the end of the day, women become slaves to men who treat them badly. I'm not saying go out and abuse women (although I will say this, even though it's unpopular - guys who are abusive are much better off than guys who are lonely because they have women under their control), but rather act like you are above them at all times.

 

[soulforge]

this is my problem too, sometimes i am too nice.... but some woman wont accept a guy bieng tough with them. amd are willing to walk away? how do you deal with a woman like that?

 

[adam225]

"women respect you more when you're not nice to them."

Yep, yep, this is how it is. A women won't respect (want sex with) a doormat. She wants a strong minded MAN who will stand his ground and not take any of her bull sh1t. The advice I give is - be firm, but fair. You don't need to lower yourself to the mentality (dumbness) of a jerk to do this. Just be firm with her and treat her accordingly to the person who she is e.g. If she's a b!tch and thinks that her point is correct and yours isn't (when she's wrong), then you need to tell her straight how it is and not back down or change your outlook to suit her. This is what she respects, specially if you can get her to change her outlook. She will not respect a *pathetic excuse for a man* who backs down when she opens her viol gob and starts firing off. If you back down and let her change your outlook (or you), you are not only a complete LOSER, you have also just exchanged sex roles - she is now the man, and you are the women. :box:

Keep strong minded, never take no sh1t .

 

[VladPatton]

this is my problem too, sometimes i am too nice.... but some woman wont accept a guy bieng tough with them. amd are willing to walk away? how do you deal with a woman like that?

Easy, you let them go and you maintain your frame. You never let anyone or anything rattle you. Own your attitude and your actions. No one is saying to be a complete aṣṣhole in life, but you first and foremost don't buckle for anyone. Of course, if you are wrong, you own that too. Man-up to all attributes of your life.

 

[TheGambino]

These guys that are abusive with girls skinny are also charmers, have a certain aura about them, can talk like bosses or make girls wet with theyr attitude, this all is combined with bein a complete ashole, then yes she will stick around and chase you. If you're only a ugly guy with no charm no brains no style + an creepy ashole then nobody will respect you.

 

[FairShake]

Do this with women if you want. I don't agree personally. Nice guys with charm, looks, and success do just as well as azzholes with charm, looks, and success. I know plenty of disagreeable people who live lonely lives.

But please, whatever you do, don't start talking down to people at work. Be assertive when needed but by being aggressive you will create drama where there is none and lose your job. Again, for every azzhole that is moving up he is treading on the ashes of azzholes who flamed out and were swept away.

Playing the average being an agreeable guy not afraid to make a point and take chances wins out over anything else.

 

[BraddH]

You guys are pathetic.

 

[Serenity]

The optimal solution is not to try to be either nice or an a$$hole. Just simply draw your line and be aware when someone actually crosses it. What I see all too often are people who have been abused completely flipping it. Instead of being controlled they take control outside themselves, so in a sense they become the abuser. Some people live like this their entire lives.

It's not wise to either abuse or be abused. A$$holes probably got initial charm from their apparent confidence, but they don't make good relationship material. They will leave a trail of destruction and never take responsibility for it.

Sometimes you should be nice and other times you need to be a jerk. It purely depends on the situation, there are no static rules that are always right. All you gotta do to learn is pay close attention to consequences.

I have to admit that I too became an a$$hole, but I never stopped learning. I never believed I knew everything, and honestly I never will. Never ever think you're above anyone, you can't do better than being equal. We're all in this mess we call life together.

The world is not black and white, it's unlimited shades of grey. If you don't understand I hope you one day will.

 

[btownbuck2012]

is not being an ******* that women are attracted to, nor is it what employers like to see or what's allowing this guy to keep his job.

It's assertiveness. it's a strong belief in one's self and a healthy self esteem. Those are the qualities you need. You don't have to 'act' like an ******* or a jerk.

 

[BraddH]

This nice guy vs ahole theory is so ****ing tired. Nice guys are well respected and get laid on the regular, I'm proof of that. The so called "nice guys" you speak of have no spine which is why they get trampled over. Do **** out of the kindness of your heart expecting nothing in return and life will treat you grand. See you guys problem is y'all do nice **** hoping to get something out of it.

Just this morning at a hotel a woman was leaving she was pushing a baby in stroller in one hand while towing along this huge travel suit case in the other. She walks up to a bellman who's at the bellstand but he's in street clothing. She asks do you work here? This ahole replied "I'm off the clock..... but you can stop at the front desk for help" pointing to an empty from desk. He walks off a lil bit and finally asks "what you need help with" Even tho I had things to do I just cut in "I can help you" eagerly. She says "I just need help with my bag and an escort to the garage" I tell her it ain't no problem and grab her bag. She immediately thumbs through an wad of cash and hands me a $20 bill in front of the bellmen to spite him lol. I tried to decline the money but she wasn't taking no for an answer.

Beautiful. Finally a guy who knows life. Rep+1

 

[PlayHer Man]

This nice guy vs ahole theory is so ****ing tired. Nice guys are well respected and get laid on the regular, I'm proof of that. The so called "nice guys" you speak of have no spine which is why they get trampled over. Do **** out of the kindness of your heart expecting nothing in return and life will treat you grand. See you guys problem is y'all do nice **** hoping to get something out of it.

Just this morning at a hotel a woman was leaving she was pushing a baby in stroller in one hand while towing along this huge travel suit case in the other. She walks up to a bellman who's at the bellstand but he's in street clothing. She asks do you work here? This ahole replied "I'm off the clock..... but you can stop at the front desk for help" pointing to an empty from desk. He walks off a lil bit and finally asks "what you need help with" Even tho I had things to do I just cut in "I can help you" eagerly. She says "I just need help with my bag and an escort to the garage" I tell her it ain't no problem and grab her bag. She immediately thumbs through an wad of cash and hands me a $20 bill in front of the bellmen to spite him lol. I tried to decline the money but she wasn't taking no for an answer.

This is true.

Its never been about nice vs. mean. Its more about being YOU with no apologies and letting people take it or leave it.

Beta fags try to mold themselves into whatever they believe the woman wants them to be. This is a very exhausting and gay way to live. It also pedestalizes the woman. :nono:

All women care about is what you can do for them and how much you make their taco tingle --> Value. The only deadly behavioral sin is being a faggot:

-Pandering
-Desperate
-Agreeable
-Passive aggressive
-Beta

All these behaviors are attempts to mold yourself into what others want or control outcomes with certain relationships rather than just living according to your own values and letting the chips fall where they fall.

If a woman isn't sexually attracted to you.. she will exploit you and resent you overtime. Sexual attraction usually dies when the man stops being himself and starts giving into her scare tactics out of "fear". Lots of men give into these tactics as early as the first date or the first conversation. Then they wonder why they get friend zoned. :crackup: :crackup: