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Still can't get her on phone...

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Next this girl bro.

We're about the same age, and through the years, I've realized a lot of things in regards to women.

One of them is that getting the phone number doesn't guarantee anything. Even if it is her real number.

IL shouldn't be determined by whether you got the digits or not. She maybe giving you her number for many reasons:

1) You have mutual friends and she doesn't want to come off as a b*tch who gives out fake numbers
2) She has low IL and wants a LJBF senerio.
3) She is too nice and would give her number out to anyone who asks.
4) She was in a fight with her bf and you her number to boost her self-esteem.
5) Her phone is actually broken and she REALLY does have high IL in you.

If option 5 is it, personally, I would make HER wait now. Go out, find new options. However, keep this girl in your back pocket. Don't completely next her. Who knows, in a couple weeks, you might run into her at a party, and she'll be wondering why you never called her - thus - YOU become the challenge because you didn't become a nagging AFC like all the other guys she's met.
 

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bump

I'm searching for threads on leaving messages and found this...

I'm in a slightly similar situation right now. I've called twice and got the answering machine both times, but I haven't left a message.

This is because I want to find the right way to do it. I mean if I leave a crap message I have no hope.

Can anybody give me a good line I can use to put the ball in her court and be done with it?
 

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I'm in a similar situation. HB 8-9 that I work with on saturdays. We went out last weds, ended up sleeping together and going for breakfast at 1 in the afternoon on thurs. She is asking if we are going to hang out again, and questions like that the entire time we are hanging out. Later on that night before she has to go to work she calls for no good reason, just to tell me some bs about what work said when she didn't show up on thurs (she was with me). We don't talk again until saturday night at work, I'm a bartender, she's a waitress, then there is no touching or making plans etc.. strange. she wanted me to call on sun, I waited until late to call, I knew she was at the state fair with her mom when I called, but I was suppose to be at the fair with another girl and I cancelled the plans for other reasons I won't get into. She(the girl from work) hasn't called back yet, so she either:
1. didn't get my message and thinks I'm a player
2. got my message and thinks that I'm a player and wants me to call again to prove that I'm interested in more than banging her 3. doesn't want anything else to do with me
4. is doing some kind of bull**** girl test, or
5. some variation of the above

I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet, I haven't called her again. I would sincerely like to get to know her better, but I have a lot of **** going on right now, and there are a lot of options for a girl who works where she works and looks like she looks.
My point is; what if there is a possibility that no matter what you decide to do, you could not fvck up? no matter how hard you try to you can't screw anything up. Realize that you are in the zone (or something like it). If you call her, or if you don't call her, it doesn't matter. If you go on a date, or if you don't it doesn't matter. We know that there are lots of girls that want to go out with guys like us. The truth is that we can guess all we want about what is going on in a girls head and what is going on her life, but we will never know. If you want her, go after her, but do it cool. If it doesn't work, that sucks, but stay cool. Give the girl whatever you think is a fair chance before you next her, don't next her out of fear of rejection. People have lives outside of dating, relationships, phone calls, etc. If you stay cool you still have the girls respect at the end of the ordeal, regardless of the outcome. I'm done rambling.
 
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He*ll f*ucking No! Obviously her interest in you is very low, let her funky ass call you next time or better yet never at all! Ain't no ho worth all this much effort.
 

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Don't call/text/email anymore. You've made enough effort, if she is interested let her contact you. I was talking to this really cute girl recently, somehow the conversation got onto bowling, and I suggested we should go bowling sometime. She said she would like that and gave me her number (I hadn't asked for it yet). I called, and it actually was her number, but it went to voice mail. I left her a message and heard nothing, then she emailed me saying "oh yeah I got your message, sorry I didn't get a chance to call, can I call you tomorrow?". Have I heard anything? Nope. Next.

There's just too many other women out there to worry about this one. Even if you did start going out with her, do you really think you would enjoy dating someone that flaky?
 

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Very interesting thread on a situation that we all confront regarding phone etiquette. What I have learned is that if a girl has high IL she will return your call no matter how flakey she is or even if she is a rules girl. It may come a day late or two weeks later, but she will call.

I recently spoke to a woman friend of mine and she said that when a girl likes a guy, hearing his voice causes her to become excited and gleeful. She will do almost anything to at least hear his voice if not in person, over the phone. Therefore, if she doesn't call back, or doesn't call at all, she is not interested. Quite frankly I have never been with a girl who had high IL that never called on a regular basis.

If girl tells you that she will call you back at a specific time and doesn't, barring some unforeseen circumstance or emergency, not only is she not interested, but she disrespects you in my opinion. If she values you she will at least call and apologize for not having called when she promised to.

I went out on a first date with a girl who I had mistakenly thought had high interest. I called several days later to set up a second date. Well, she made up some bs that she was doing something and said that she would call me back in 10 minutes. She never called. That should have been a clear hint that she was not interested. Well, at the time I didn't get it so I tried again a week later and left her a message to no avail.
 

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You guys all have a point but I'm not interested in how to get high IL girls , I can get them already (in fact I have a few in my collection :) ).

Getting a low IL girl on the phone (by Walden aged 25).

1) Wait until tuesday.
2)TXT message with an intriguing / C+F question ('How are your nails?" ).
3) Wait till she txtmessages you back.Ignore the response and call her back (you know she's got her phone with her).
4) Make a joke about your intriguing question ("Okay so I know you're not getting a pedicure tonight...")
5) Tell her you're keen to do X ("go to the improv cos I haven't in ages").
6) If she can't make it tonight " Excellent, tomorrow night it is then (a lot of chics won't have the sales resistance to deny you twice ina row).
7) Go to the improv with the girl and SS / Kino for all you're worth
 

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The best ones are the times when the girl OFFERS you her #, so you can go out, without you even asking for it, and then never calls back. Trippy:D
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Been There. Move On!

Your efforts will be futile. Save your face and move on.
 

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Originally posted by Sir Shags Alot
Dude if she wanted to get ahold of you she would have already. Move on!
Correct.

Gipper
 

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Never leave a message unless it's been past two weeks... and when you do, just leave your name, number and where you met her.

Always call from a different phone number or block your calls.

Some girls are f*cking pu$$ies and won't call you back even if they do like you because they are scared of being rejected. So this is why you don't leave a message unless you have to.
 

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You called way to many times. This girl thinks you don't have any other girls going for you, you appear as someone who has too much time on his hands...you're NOT looking busy, and she sees you as desperate. If she did have some IL at first, and missed a few of your calls, then sees how desperate you are, she will most likely lose any IL she originally had.

Here's what i'd do to call a girl. Never call more than 3 times.

First call - Block your number (free call). If she doesn't pick up, hang up. Don't leave a message.

Second Call - Same as above.

Third Call - Unblock your number. This is your last call. You call, and if she doesn't pick up, leave her a half-message that will get her curiosity going.

"Hey girlsName, this is guysName. I'm a little dissapointed I couldn't get a hold of you, but regardless, I just wanted to tell you that" [click] HANG UP! Make sure your finger was on the end button so that she doesn't hear any fumbling and thinks you got cut out. She'll most likely be so curious to know what you had to say that she'll call you back just to find out...

But you should have more than one girl lined up at a time anyways, so you never come off as desperate to any girl. And we all know the power of social proof. Girls can sense when you're with other girls. But if you call and text a girl so much, she's going to be like wtf! This guy doesn't even know me...I just gave him my number and already he's calling me this much! WTF would happen if we started dating? This guy is way to clingy. Any IL she may have had is gone.

Cgraz
 

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girls do that

Next her,i always wait 5 days b4 calling,unless they call me first.I Don't text ,e-mail,or leave messages. Maybe u should try Dateclosing or ****closing.


this is why more and more i perfer the GUNWITCH METHOD,so either fucc close or go home and fucc myself.i'm only exchanging numbers and e-mails with the ones i actually WOULD want 2 date ,or after i fucced em and want 2 turn em into a booty call.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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