Still a little pissed...opinions please

[Rubirosa]

Hi guys...........
Just wanted to follow up on my thread with a few things......
Again, thanks to all who contributed. While I strongly disagree with some of the replies, I still gotta respect the fact that people have a right to their own opinions.
A theme that I disagreed with was (I'm paraphrasing) "Dude...you blew it....you blew your chance !"
I'm assuming you meant my chances for sex.
I'll be arrogant here. I was out there on the "battlefield" before some of you were even born. This does not make me a better player, or Don Juan, if you will, but it does give me a wealth of experience to pull from and give an educated opinion.
I can tell you that without hesitation, one of the most rewarding experiences that has made me feel like a man is having the ability to say no.
When I was in my early twenties, I would do "whatever" it took to get laid.....Taking single mothers out to dinners I could barely afford......Being told by a chick to "Meet me at the club...I'm with my friends" ...only to be suckered into buying drinks.....Almost getting fired from good jobs because I was always adjusting my schedule to hers and she not to mine......
As long as I felt I had a chance to hit it, I was there.
Now sex to me is as important now as it was then, maybe even more so because in 15 years I'll be 60 (OMG !!!)
But what is more important is how I conduct myself as a man. In my early 20's, I was getting laid, but I wasn't being a man. I wasn't acting like one because the women were in control.
Let me give you an extreme example :
Man 1 and Man 2 are both married to hot women.
But their wives are cheating on them.
All the time
One night, as Man 1 is waiting at home, he wife rolls in at 3:00 AM and says "Hey Honey, we can do it after I finish this breakfast burrito I picked up on the way home from Mr. Superstud's pad. All that hot sex with him sure made me hungry !"
Man 1 watches his wife eat her burrito, go to the bathroom to take a monster dump, then climb between the sheets and smile up at him and say "I'm ready !"
At the same time this is going on at Man 1's house, Man 2 is also waiting for his unfaithful wife to return home.
Finally she walks through the door.
Man 2 speaks:
"If you look there on the table, there's a petition for a divorce. I don't want to be married to a slut any longer!"
Who is getting laid, but who is the real man ?
So when you guys tell me "Man, you blew it....you could of had a chance !" I have to say : No, I didn't blow it.

 

[iqqi]

Well, from the female perspective, I think you over reacted and looked like an insecure p!ssy emotional dumb@ss. Getting emotional over some chick you just met at a bar? L.M.A.O. It's not her fault that you introduced her to your friends, so I don't know why that is some big deal to you. Also, her dancing with him was probably just her trying to be playful and make you jealous. Obviously it was a turn off to you, which is fine and means a mistake was made on her part... but the whole "tell her to fvck off"??

Reaaaal smooth, player.

 

[Rubirosa]

Well, from the female perspective, I think you over reacted and looked like an insecure p!ssy emotional dumb@ss. Getting emotional over some chick you just met at a bar? L.M.A.O. It's not her fault that you introduced her to your friends, so I don't know why that is some big deal to you. Also, her dancing with him was probably just her trying to be playful and make you jealous. Obviously it was a turn off to you, which is fine and means a mistake was made on her part... but the whole "tell her to fvck off"??

Reaaaal smooth, player.

I think you're overreacting to my post.
P.S., take it easy on the insults internet tough guy (Oh, I didn't know you weren't a dude....whatever)

 

[iqqi]

I think you're overreacting to my post.
P.S., take it easy on the insults internet tough guy

I'm a girl, so it's tough girl. And I was just telling you what my literal thoughts would be in her situation, or even as just any girl who happened to witness your little emotional outburst to a stranger.

 

[Rubirosa]

Your perspective on the situation is based on the images your mind comes up with from reading my account. I was there, and I can sincerely tell you that I did not get overly emotional that night. I did not yell, kick or scream so to speak. I basically told someone to get lost using a four letter word that starts with "f". In fact, I didn't even tell the "perpetrator". I told her friend to relay the message.
Please read my post again.....You make it sound like I was all torn up over "not getting" this chick. My being upset had NOTHING to do with me "wanting" her...I was ambivilent about that....

 

[iqqi]

Your perspective on the situation is based on the images your mind comes up with from reading my account. I was there, and I can sincerely tell you that I did not get overly emotional that night. I did not yell, kick or scream so to speak. I basically told someone to get lost using a four letter word that starts with "f". In fact, I didn't even tell the "perpetrator". I told her friend to relay the message.
Please read my post again.....You make it sound like I was all torn up over "not getting" this chick. My being upset had NOTHING to do with me "wanting" her...I was ambivilent about that....

I am going off of the very simple last words you gave her friend "tell her to fvck off", and nothing else. I don't even care how you delivered the lines. With a smile, with a frown, with a twinkle in your eye and a wink, with a bird flipped. I definitely don't need to take into account how you felt on the inside, or your "ambivilent" feelings towards her. Those words alone were emotional and an over reaction, young angry grasshopper. You come across as emotional with anger problems. All this after a seemingly smooth approach and hook.

That is all, I've explained this to you enough. You like to argue and rationalize and not absorb ideas.

 

[Jaylan]

I think you're overreacting to my post.
P.S., take it easy on the insults internet tough guy (Oh, I didn't know you weren't a dude....whatever)

dont sweat it dude. Shes a woman and apparently wants you to kow tow to her gender. You did everything like you were supposed to. Hell any woman would of did the same things you did and her girlfriends and guy friends would be telling her what a good job she did.

 

[Rubirosa]

Well, from the female perspective, I think you over reacted and looked like an insecure p!ssy emotional dumb@ss.
.

............and you say I'm the one that's angry and emotional ?

 

[supremacy]

Rubi - do you think saying **** off was the right or wrong thing to do?

I ask, because the answer could say a lot about your character.

They say when two people are angry at each other and throw subjective insults there is a connection of some sort... ..Rubi and Iggi sat in a tree...:rockon:

 

[Rubirosa]

Rubi - do you think saying **** off was the right or wrong thing to do?

I ask, because the answer could say a lot about your character.

They say when two people are angry at each other and throw subjective insults there is a connection of some sort... ..Rubi and Iggi sat in a tree...:rockon:

Did you read the last part of post #11 in this thread ?

 

[supremacy]

You come across as emotional with anger problems. All this after a seemingly smooth approach and hook. You like to argue and rationalize and not absorb ideas.

Rubi

In retrospect I should not have used the F word but at the time, I felt the need to send her a message about how I felt about her actions

She may have a point.
This is not a dig or an insult attempt, just a point for you to consider.

 

[Rubirosa]

You know what sir.....having read through this again, I have to take back a lot of stick I gave you....

I respect your morals and integrity and your damn right never to let a woman disrespect you like that.......good on you man!

The "****off" might have been a tad bit over the top....the saying "all is fair in love and war" comes to mind here. However, it is her loss and your gain that you are not with someone immature like that who seemingly has no respect.

Damn (oh I mean darn...wouldn't want anyone to think I have issues) I should have stopped posting after this..........
You asked me if I felt that using the F word was wrong and I said I should not have used it......Agreed ?
I thought it was interesting that someone jumped on this thread and proceeded to tear into me using a stream of cuss words, then make the judgement call that I might have anger issues because I used one cuss word.
There's arguing a point just to be difficult, then there's arguing because your'e passionate about your beliefs.

 

[Rubirosa]

Let's put this into perspective here.

• Your couple friends sound very chumpish to me if they think a girl you just met needs to stay at your side all night and not have fun on the dance floor.
• You slid into a sulky, resentful state after this girl you just met went to the dance floor and had fun with other men.
  

  No offense dude, but these are ridulculous statements. Let me explain.
  First of all, you're putting words into my friends' mouths....At no time did they indicate in words or in action that this woman had any obligation whatsoever towards me. They were simply surprised that a woman I had just been chatting up, was all of a sudden grinding right in front of us w/ another dude.
  PLEASSSSEEEEE read my other posts on this......I did not feel she had any obligation towards me. The ONLY thing that pissed me off is that she chose to do her actions in front of us. If I meet a chick and she's nice, and introduces me to her friends, I don't think I'll grind the night away with another chick right in front of her and her friends that she just introduced me to. Of course she's not my girlfriend, and theoretically I have the right to dance wherever and with whomever I want, but in a way, it's kinda mean don't cha think ? And I sure as hell am not gonna try and sugarcoat my actions by trying to say goodnight to her after that.
  I simply don't care about frames, games and wheather or not in some way she was actually interested in me and therefore was playing some sort of elaborate charade with this other dude just to get my attention. On the surface, it was insulting to me and my friends.

 

[Rubirosa]

Rubi,

I am not disagreeing with your being angry, and I am not attacking you, but I am giving you my unvarnished perspective of the situation based on what you said.



You were angry and resentful, you even said so yourself here. You felt embarassed in front of your friends most likely because now you feel like a failure or a loser.

She was just a girl you met at a bar and introduced to friends that came by to join you. It is nothing to get angry about, it is the polite thing to do.

The only failure here are the unrealistic expectations you set for yourself, and possibly the expectations your friends set for you with statements like the bolded one above. It sure sounds like your friends felt she had an obligation towards you....at the very least, you felt she had an obligation towards you.

Look mate, you can choose to continue to vent that anger on the woman who dissed you, the posters on this board, or me for laying the truth bare, or you can learn from this situation and grow from it.

I somehow hit the wrong button on the keyboard and my post posted before I had finished writing everything to repond to you, so you're responding to only half of my thoughts on the issue.
You seem like a good guy who is only interested in helping and I appreciate that, but I still stand by all my words on this thread (BTW is Iqqi hot ?)