Sticking point: Boring Conversation

[AJ84]

It's easier to have conversations while doing an activity. Playing pool, mini golf, sporting event etc. First dates across a table can be a bit strained. People typically have their guard up and are overthinking on first dates so conversation can be limited while the water is being tested.

I find having an activity based first date lowers the guard somewhat and allows for the converation to be more organic. Not every first date has to be a lunch or dinner or something, in fact I suggest that to be the third or fourth date after there is some comfort level with conversation.

Alcohol can help too to be honest, but only enough to loosen up, not get trashed.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

It's easier to have conversations while doing an activity. Playing pool, mini golf, sporting event etc. First dates across a table can be a bit strained. People typically have their guard up and are overthinking on first dates so conversation can be limited while the water is being tested.

I find having an activity based first date lowers the guard somewhat and allows for the converation to be more organic. Not every first date has to be a lunch or dinner or something, in fact I suggest that to be the third or fourth date after there is some comfort level with conversation.

Alcohol can help too to be honest, but only enough to loosen up, not get trashed.

I find "dating" in general to be boring.

 

[AJ84]

I find "dating" in general to be boring.

I don't understand then. You have said many times that you find talking to women boring. You don't think they have any value other than sex, and you find their behaviour annoying.

I'm not saying this to attack you but, from much of what you posted, you don't seem to actually like women aside from the sex. So why are you essentially arranging your whole life for their benefit? The monster penis, the car, the money, the body lengthening are all things you specifically said you want to do to attract women, as women will benefit from those things.

Why do something for a group of people whose company you don't enjoy? That kind of seems like self abuse to me and I foresee you resenting women for having to resort to such measures to get their affection.

You seem to most enjoy just paying for what it is you are really after which is sex from a hot women. What's wrong with just leaving it at that?

 

[Grit-Persist]

I can talk business all day long with anyone, male or female.

I just can't create "dating" conversation out of nowhere.

Most conversations that people have are just fluff small talk, anyway. That's never been my thing to waste my time and theirs with pointless conversation just to fill silence.

Okay then fvck it, just give it up then. Pay for the pvssy.

Fvck it, after all of this time, various discussions, etc., you are still at Step 1 then why bother? We all indirectly pay for pvssy anyway through the various dates, time wasted doing phone sex, etc., with a chick, so just buy Escorts and call it a day.

 

[Skyline]

You have an artificial persona that everyone can see. Even members on this forum aren't dumb enough to fall for it so why do you think a female would?

Why do you want to talk to them in the first place? Do you really value females just for sex?

If somebody like me, who has everything issues, has success with women then it's you purposely limiting yourself. Females offer a lot more than sex. Yes, their bodies are incredible. But there is something deeper and more fulfilling when you talk to a girl and you and her vibe well.

I have fun with the girls that I talk do. Obviously sex is the goal but why should I have to make it a boring process? Anxiety stems from taking things too serious. Women should not be taken seriously.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Okay then fvck it, just give it up then. Pay for the pvssy.

Fvck it, after all of this time, various discussions, etc., you are still at Step 1 then why bother? We all indirectly pay for pvssy anyway through the various dates, time wasted doing phone sex, etc., with a chick, so just buy Escorts and call it a day.

Step 1? Except that I've fvcked more hot girls than anyone here.

And I remember you saying how it annoyed you that girls always ended up asking you for money.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I don't understand then. You have said many times that you find talking to women boring. You don't think they have any value other than sex, and you find their behaviour annoying.

I'm not saying this to attack you but, from much of what you posted, you don't seem to actually like women aside from the sex. So why are you essentially arranging your whole life for their benefit? The monster penis, the car, the money, the body lengthening are all things you specifically said you want to do to attract women, as women will benefit from those things.

Why do something for a group of people whose company you don't enjoy? That kind of seems like self abuse to me and I foresee you resenting women for having to resort to such measures to get their affection.

You seem to most enjoy just paying for what it is you are really after which is sex from a hot women. What's wrong with just leaving it at that?

If their personalities were better, I would like them a lot better. If they didn't have sex to offer, then I would judge them the same as a guy. Just based on their personality. But it's more complicated than that, especially when they base much of their personality on using their sexuality to manipulate and gain favors.

Why spend so much time trying to attract them? Because I'm alive. I couldn't stop if I tried. I will never in my life be able to drive past a Hooters, Winghouse, strip club, etc. without wanting to go in.

I didn't invent these problems. I just discovered them.

Also, don't underestimate the attractiveness of the escorts and SA girls that I see. They are by far the hottest girls anyone has posted here. Look at this picture. Can you imagine if someone posted this girl as their "date" or "girlfriend?" And this is just 1 of hundreds.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wqwxzxc3h3cw66v/Screenshot_2018-02-17-00-00-00.png?dl=0

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You have an artificial persona that everyone can see. Even members on this forum aren't dumb enough to fall for it so why do you think a female would?

Why do you want to talk to them in the first place? Do you really value females just for sex?

If somebody like me, who has everything issues, has success with women then it's you purposely limiting yourself. Females offer a lot more than sex. Yes, their bodies are incredible. But there is something deeper and more fulfilling when you talk to a girl and you and her vibe well.

I have fun with the girls that I talk do. Obviously sex is the goal but why should I have to make it a boring process? Anxiety stems from taking things too serious. Women should not be taken seriously.

I'm not going to take advice from a 21 year old kid. Especially not one who harasses me.

If I could block you, I would.

 

[sazc]

That's funny because you are the worst poster on here. All your advice is terrible, let alone the fact that you're a GIRL so why are you even on here in the first place? And now you're gonna try to talk with some authority?

At least some other girls here have some looks to back it up. Not so much for you.

Oh fuvck1n blah blah blah.. I'm soooooo insulted, lol

You only get advice from the people here who aren't tired of your bvllchit. Everyone else calls you out for what you are. The people that do entertain you will tire of you soon enough.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If you find conversations boring, then spice it up with some ballsy conversation topics. Push the envelope. Who wants to be successful with boring anyway?

Okay.

In that case, I have ballsy conversations over text with girls on SA every day.

What are good examples of balls conservation topics?

 

[Skyline]

I'm not going to take advice from a 21 year old kid. Especially not one who harasses me.

If I could block you, I would.

You only say that because you got mad when I told you that cars don't get you women.

You're a fool to not see that you're the issue in every situation.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You only say that because you got mad when I told you that cars don't get you women.

You're a fool to not see that you're the issue in every situation.

Not the car itself. But money and success do. The car is just a passive way of showing that.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

What are some examples of topics (other than sex, work, school, etc) that aren't boring to you?

Female behavior.

 

[NiceBarn]

Fvck sakes....

Reality check. I hope she won't mind my taking the liberty of saying so, but she's way out of your league.

You're a 4 in looks, a 0 in game, a -5 in status (being serious with the police name change thing), and a 6 in money.

Giving you a magical man score of 5 out of 40. Them be bottom feeder numbers.

You've never even had a bloody girlfriend, and you're in your 30's. Time to sort yourself out. Improve something.

As for so-called "worst poster", i like to judge a poster on whether they'd be a useful wing.... I'd take her over many actually.

Lol 4 in looks is being polite. After reading his posts and seeing those dead soulless eyes I feel for any person that has to interact with him. I thought this guy has to be trolling but now it’s borderline disturbing if he is not.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Lol 4 in looks is being polite. After reading his posts and seeing those dead soulless eyes I feel for any person that has to interact with him. I thought this guy has to be trolling but now it’s borderline disturbing if he is not.

Really? A girl just called me an 8 two days ago.

Do you think I care about some guys opinion?

 

[NiceBarn]

I’m just saying they’re all being nice to you. Lol

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I’m just saying they’re all being nice to you. Lol

I'm better looking than you, I'll bet.

Btw, get the fvck off my posts.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

The problem is that getting to know someone on early dates (1st date in particular) is a uniform, repetitive experience.

You get to know people by talking to them. The most important details are always the same, so you're always asking the same f***ing questions. You'll get a bit of variety with her interests or whatever but it'll still come down to asking the same questions and being asked the same questions.

I got so bored with this I was almost at the precipice of dating insanity. Going on 6 first dates in 2 months and asking all the same bloody things to every girl, having the same freaking conversation but with minor alterations...absolutely mind-numbing.

The solution, I think, is to make sure first date is always DOING something if you're dating intensively (I.E. lots of first dates). Go play pool, or go bowling, or go crazy golf or something. Anything where you can just focus on having fun and not having to turn it into a CIA interrogation minus the waterboarding.

 

[StrayCat]

1. In real life girls don't tend to react like that in my experience, probably because they have no desire to make a scene and embarass themselves in public either

2. Being bold only doesn't work with girls who don't like you. There's girls with little to no sexual interest in me that told me their bra size when i asked, unsurprisingly all the girls who didn't want to talk about anything sexual or sex related or intimate had no interest (and were quite prudish). Also sometimes i just look at their boobs and guess, they generally have a surprised look when i get it right/close

I will point out though that any girl older than college aged is uncharted territory for me, I've flirted with like 1 grad student, 1 30 year old and like 6 girls who were in the vicinity of mid to late 20s, so your mileage may vary on those.

Yea, I date between 26 - 37. I am not sure that will go over well. Though, I can usually tell their boob size by looking at their chest as well. As long as they are not hanging, I am fine. It's when you get the women who have huge boobs, and then you see them hanging down to the stomach. Kills the whole boob thing.

 

[StrayCat]

Can anyone link to threads for interesting conversation for late 20's - mid 30's? I am not sure if it's the area, but some of these women I am seeing seem to lack things to talk about. Still get the make out session at the end of the date, but I feel I may be putting off that I am trying too hard; which I am not. I am in sales, so I have sell all day. Seems my sales game now has spilled over to the night.

Advice welcomed and needed.