Steubenville, OH teens convicted on rape charges.....

[speed dawg]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highsc...lty-of-raping-16-year-old-girl-164129528.html

Did the other thread get deleted? Anyway, I am torn on this. Yes, they are guilty and deserve some punishment, but, what of the girl? I guess at the end of the day, they felt it was not consensual. But she's the one who'd been flirting with them and even invited them to the party. I just don't know. I have a daughter now, so I am conflicted.

Dan Wetzel, the author from Yahoo, sure does love his man-bashing, though.

 

[backbreaker]

yes they deserve to die and I hope they burn in hell!

 

[Jaylan]

Im not surprised this story hasnt been talked about that much on this site. (has it?)

I mean, lord knows some dudes here love to talk about how theres so many false rape claims in the world, all the while seemingly ignoring the scores of legitimate rapes that happen.

I echo the post above mine. Im glad these kids lives are ruined. Sex offenders for life, and no college sports or NFL dreams for them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highsc...lty-of-raping-16-year-old-girl-164129528.html

Did the other thread get deleted? Anyway, I am torn on this. Yes, they are guilty and deserve some punishment, but, what of the girl? I guess at the end of the day, they felt it was not consensual. But she's the one who'd been flirting with them and even invited them to the party. I just don't know. I have a daughter now, so I am conflicted.

Dan Wetzel, the author from Yahoo, sure does love his man-bashing, though.

Whats there to be conflicted about? The girl wasnt even moving. She was blackout drunk. Thats rape all the way dude.

I dont see how you can have a daughter and not see this as totally in the boys control. Sure the girl shouldnt have gotten so drunk, and should have been more aware of her surroundings...but those idiot boys should know you dont mess with people who are knocked out.

I dunno how any guy can ever think its OK to screw a girl whos sleeping, unconscious, or black out drunk. Its all rape, and none of it is consensual. Ive always made it a point to never sleep with a girl who seemed overly inebriated in any way. If a girl cant tell you "yes" and if she cant grab you and touch you in ways that lets you know she wants you inside her, you SHOUDLNT be sleeping with her.

But some dudes are idiots. And these boys are definitely that.

 

[LiveFreeX]

So they should be held accountable for being drunk but women shouldn't?

Right, I'm sure she was a wonderful upstanding young woman who was dragged from her house while she slept... give it up Americans. Maybe if your women weren't such stupid pieces of crap in the first place this wouldn't have happened... but I guess you can attribute that to the 'anything goes' culture. She is likely a jock chick, that felt bad that everyone saw her being a stupid slvt at the party and is now looking for retribution. The worst thing that happened to her is she had a finger stuck in her pvssy. Woopdie fvckin doo.. The real criminals are the boy's fathers, they should have told those boys: "STAY THE FVCK AWAY FROM AMERICAN WOMEN!!!". The other criminals are all of you for dating/sexing women who have such low values as to go out and get drunk and promote this type of culture. Your population should be saying "that's what happens when you drink irresponsibly", not trying to lock up children for petty crimes... your culture has created these monsters and you 'PUA' white knights are feeding them.



America, what happened to you... land of hypocrites.

Do you know where Chinese girls of the same age are, at night?

Sitting at home studying for their exams.

 

[Jaylan]

Held accountable for being drunk? What are you talking about>?

We all have free will. Just because they all decided to drink, doesnt mean they shouldnt be held accountable for knowingly raping a girl whos passed out.

They chose to knowingly rape someone, called it rape themselves, then make fun of it on the internet while sending people videos and pics of the crime.

Be smart about this LiveFreeX. Your post sounds mighty stupid.

Its a goddamn shame that we have victim-blaming in a case thats a clear cut rape. Yeah, lets blame american women for these stupid american boys deciding to be criminals.

 

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She was blackout drunk. Thats rape all the way dude.

RAPE!!!!

She c@ck hops jocks all day but as soon as she passes out that hammer comes down...RAPE!!!! I wonder if it's still RAPE!! if a guy blows his cookies at the exact same moment she passes out? Hmmm That's gotta be a brain buster for the perpetual victim libtards.

I can remember when the word RAPE!! actually meant something. Usually resulting in broken bones, bruises, screams, clumps of hair missing, scratch marks the whole shebang.

Give it another 20 years and the leftards will claim prolonged eye contact from a stranger on the street as.... RAPE!! At least then the fatties and fuglies will finally get their RAPE!! fantasies met. See we told you all beauty is a social construct and we really are desired by those brutish men.


RAPE!!!

 

[goundra]

she has to KNOWINGLY GIVE CONSENT, u ****ing idiot. If she's drunk, she can't do that, much less if she's passed out. I can promise you that if I see you fvcking some unconscious woman, you'll be trying to score from a wheelchair, for the rest of your worthless life.

 

[Jaylan]

Because you don't see that those men who complain about false rape charges are actually reasonable men. Where-as in this situation yes the men are certainly guilty of a crime.

Are they reasonable? Really? Ive seen "tit guy"s posts here plenty...and tell me how is it reasonable to say what hes saying about a girl who was legitmately raped. Whats reasonable about whining about false rape claims in a case of clear cut rape? Whats reasonable about putting down a girl as some derelict skank because some jocks raped her? Thats why some folks cant see those who complain about false rape as reasonable. Because they act totally unreasonable and push off the wall ideas when it comes to legitimate rape.

Because of your inability to distinguish between the two, you assume any defense of man is misogyny, even if the woman is clearly in the wrong.

Um...the defense of man is fine...but when that defense has a bitter angry typical rebuke of women...how can some not see it as misogyny? Two of the posts here by LiveFree and "tit guy" are highly negative of a goddamn rape victim. Why not be negative of the rapists in this matter. If we want men to do better, then we need to rebuke the idiots who bring down our image in the media...whoever they are. Rapists are part of that negative image.

This site is about Men and their problems with women, if you want to talk about legit rape, then go to loveshack or something. Bashing people here who are concerned about men's rights just makes you look like another misandric tard, and it certainly makes you anything but reasonable.

Sorry...but this is the anything else forum, so I can talk about whatever I want.

And how in the world is legitimate rape something that shouldnt be discussed here? This site is about mens problems attaining women. It shouldnt be the whiny psuedo MRA site some areas of the forum have become. I thought sosuave was about pickup?

And where am I bashing someone regarding mens rights. I made an accurate assesment based on how some people here react to rape. I called it and surely had a couple posters come prove me right. Sorry that Im not reasonable lmao. Sorry its unreasonable for a man to be upset with rapists and victim blamers *sarcasm*

I didnt know that condemning rapists and victim blamers in a legitimate rape case made me a misandrist. Of course you go the typical route of making emotional character attacks by calling me a tard. Grow up some maybe?

Chr1st, some idiots think that being against false rape accusations means that for some reason you hate women and that rape never happens. Has the education level in this country really turned this $hitty? Or is it some sort of natural stupidity? What happened to the ability to differentiate and reason out the difference between two points?

Dude...just look at "tit guy" and LiveFreeX's posts. Ive seen them post about false rape...and their posts in this thread dont seem like guys who are sympathetic in anyway to legitimate rape. So no, my earlier assertion was not off base at all. Id question your education level (not mine) if your reading comprehension skills prevented you from picking up the message and tone of their posts.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Anytime theres a post about racial or gender issues, commissioner Gordon shows the sign of the burned bra on the sky and Jaylan comes back to the board.

Tit man reached the point of no return I can see him screaming "Im done with this sh1t" in all his posts, wish we had people like him sitting in the european parliament instead of those burocvnts, nazifem and professional dumbasses.

 

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I made an accurate assesment based on how some people here react to rape.

RAAAAAAAAAPE!!!

Anytime theres a post about racial or gender issues, commissioner Gordon shows the sign of the burned bra on the sky and Jaylan comes back to the board.

Heh lets not forget the rainbow cape when he/she comes bounding in telling everyone how great the Wests current homo obsession is. The shaming came thick and fast on those days let me tell you. Turned out I was a closeted gay French midget with fireman issues or some sh!t.

I'm afraid I'm with Roissy and Roosh on this one, you just have to mock the leftoids. It's like they're impervious to rational thought and the bigger picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUzMPlQb2G4

 

[Jitterbug]

Give it another 20 years and the leftards will claim prolonged eye contact from a stranger on the street as.... RAPE!! At least then the fatties and fuglies will finally get their RAPE!! fantasies met. See we told you all beauty is a social construct and we really are desired by those brutish men.


RAPE!!!

20 years? Mr Tits you're ever an optimist. Must be mellowing out with age

Prolonged eye contact has already been sufficient to call in the police in America. There was a case on campus somewhere in Boston, I believe, where police search the entire campus for some fella who made prolonged eye contact with a woman.

Lack of eye contact, OTOH, has also created a very similar case. Some chick walked across a car park and noticed a man who did not make eye contact with her at all. The police was called in. Can't win.

Right now in Australia they're campaigning for the crime of "bystander violence". It means if you see but do nothing to save a woman from her lack of situational awareness and care for her own safety, resulting in her becoming a victim of a violent crime, you have also committed a "violent" crime.

Won't take more than a couple of years for "he's creepy" to be a criminal offense.

 

[penkitten]

wasn't this little girl around 13?

13 year olds can't buy themselves alcohol.

also... here is some food for thought: most girls start wearing bras and getting their monthly cycles between 12 and 14. most girls don't get all boy crazy for a least another year or two.

 

[JohnChops]

i like the top picture , one of the players crying. Are you fvcking serious? You raped a girl now face the consequences you pieces of sh1t. They are going to get raped hard in jail thats for sure.

I don't get rape.... how would a guy get it up and just rape a girl. I think you're fvcked up if you can get hard from a form of rape .

 

[twentee]

The rape thing, in prison, if it EVER WAS true, has not been true for over 30 years, I doubt very much if it ever was, actually. Maybe in some really high security places, but that's less than 10% of the joints.

 

[Mike32ct]

wasn't this little girl around 13?

13 year olds can't buy themselves alcohol.

I don't know her exact age, but regardless, the person that provided alcohol to minors at this party should be held accountable.

 

[speed dawg]

wasn't this little girl around 13?

13 year olds can't buy themselves alcohol.

also... here is some food for thought: most girls start wearing bras and getting their monthly cycles between 12 and 14. most girls don't get all boy crazy for a least another year or two.

Hell no, she was 16 or 17. Where are her parents telling her to not go out and get hammered therefore allowing yourself to end up in the wrong place at the wrong time? Instead, she's going to be a hero and a cheerleader for that type of behavior.

 

[LiveFreeX]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...benville-ohio-rape-case-ignite-154232862.html

The article is written by a woman and look at the hate she gets.

Can't hold people accountable for their actions anymore dontcha know... especially not a young woman! How dare we suggest that a woman can't do anything she wants, including drinking around horny jocks and sneaking out in the middle of the night against her parents wishes. If this was a Muslim family, the men would have kicked her ass instead of raping her. Americans need to think long and hard about what kind of moral standard this is setting. Why are the parents not smacking the sh1t out of her...if this was my daughter, she would be grounded for life with hard labor(volunteer service). Irresponsibility, thats what it boils down to... and the west's new obsession with 'anything goes'.


Women in the West can do WHATEVER they want and never be held accountable...EVER. think about that. Do you want your future children to be brought up with this attitude? I don't. There is irresponsibility on both parts, the boys and the girl, but the girl needs to take responsibility for her own actions and needs to acknowledge that she was at least partially at fault for what transpired.

I guess if a woman wanted to walk around half naked with a see through shirt that said "FVCK ME" on both back and front, that would probably be ok now right. Soon this society will be built for women by women, men not allowed. o

 

[speed dawg]

Chr1st, what would the system do if two lesbians were drunk and had sex, but then both claimed they were raped by the other?

Judge's head would explode. Perhaps the fem dykes would wage a new age feminist movement against the bull dykes?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

yes they deserve to die and I hope they burn in hell!

Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMGMZsKXz94

 

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Both teens are charged with digitally penetrating the West Virginia girl

So they fingered a drunk jock hopper?

This story just gets better and better.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!!!!