staying out of the "friends zone"

mondochicken

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from a recent experience i thought that i would pass on this knowlege.

when you start working on a HB keep things physical. if you start with all the emotional stuff you're just setting yourself up to be her therapist. you two will be able to talk about anything and that's all well and good, but when you try to move to the physical she'll give you the whole "i think of you as a brother line." FROM EXPERIENCE DUDES!

so learn from other's mistakes and move on to the emotional AFTER you know she's comfortable with the physical!!!
 

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I just try and f*ck em on the first date. Then all that fluffly emotional crap can come later. Give her a good multiple orgasms and you'll never be in the friend zone be it a HB or not. ;)

If you're phsyically attracted then be suave, sexy and make her jump your bones all in the beginning. Flirt high and heavy to secure the sexual relationship first and then SATISFY her sexually. You can always be friends later but its always harder for a female to go from the platonic friend zone to the hot lover zone then vice versa. Make it hot from the start and you're good to go.
 

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I totally agree with both of you. When I was a "nice" guy, and waited to make any moves until the third date or after... I always got LJBFd. It usually didn't take long either.

As soon as I started going for sex right away, women responded much more positively to me. Although they didn't always give it up right away, they knew that I wasn't going to be a therapist or friend. Don't fear you sexuality. It's what makes you a man, and ultimately what attracts her to you.
 

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Originally posted by Clint Eastwood
I totally agree with both of you. When I was a "nice" guy, and waited to make any moves until the third date or after... I always got LJBFd. It usually didn't take long either.

As soon as I started going for sex right away, women responded much more positively to me. Although they didn't always give it up right away, they knew that I wasn't going to be a therapist or friend. Don't fear you sexuality. It's what makes you a man, and ultimately what attracts her to you.
Yup, I learned the hard way LJBFd by sum hb8, she came over to chill, then went to bed with my roomate(who she does'nt really know) after giving sum *****c **** about "oh,I'd don't know you very well"
Get this my roommate says she still thinks I'm cool and still wants to talk, she doesn't even call? ***** please, NEXT. So now I'm pimpin her friend who I liked before, but thought she was an ho. Turns out we have more in common/enjoy each other's company more than the "i don't know you yet to **** you, so lemme **** your best friend to find out ho" So I got her over last weekend, and didn't plan on anything to happen. But something inside me said otherwise. no I did'nt bag her, but she let me kiss her, and the she kissed me back and we wound tounge wrestling for an hour. The point is you won't know till you do it or it will be to late. Make your physical interest in her KNOW to her, or you'll be bannished to LJBF land and who needs more girlfriends you can't ****??
 

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I beg to differ.

I've started out with a girl talking about emotional stuff, getting REAL deep, and coming through with success.

The trick is to show you're human, but not be sappy about it.

Listen, relate, paraphrase, mirror, kino, eye contact, UNDERSTAND her (not in that particular order).

Master that, and you can avoid the friends zone, no matter the nature of conversation. Remember, conversation is only a fraction verbal, the rest is non-verbal (physical) cues. Read body language, learn body language...it's a lifesaver, guys.

Just my two cents.
 

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hey, i'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but what is your success to failure ratio? if this works for you then great! go with it! but for the average DJ i wouldn't recommend it, it's a great way to get hosed into the friend's zone so fast your head will spin.
 

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You should never become a girl's lap dog especially on the first few get togethers. However I totally disagree with trying to fuk the byatch right off the bat. Once you've seen a high IL from the girl not giving her what she wants is very powerful. For instance if you knew that the girl wanted to make out with you and possibly do more, but you didn't give that to her, it will only amplify her sexual attraction towards you. This theory is very similar to David DeAngelo's line. When he says "if I had to choose between sex & cuddling, I'd choose cuddling." :D The hotter the girl the more hot and bothered they get in this situation.
 

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Originally posted by Clint Eastwood
I totally agree with both of you. When I was a "nice" guy, and waited to make any moves until the third date or after... I always got LJBFd. It usually didn't take long either.

As soon as I started going for sex right away, women responded much more positively to me. Although they didn't always give it up right away, they knew that I wasn't going to be a therapist or friend. Don't fear you sexuality. It's what makes you a man, and ultimately what attracts her to you.
I can second that...
 
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I date sluts and trannies to make my job easier and faster...he he

good point dude.
 
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