"Status"

[Scormus]

Take two identical men height, looks, and game wise:

Guy A: Lives frugally, buys a decent 1 bed for himself with cash after saving for a decade plus and has no mortgage. His savings beyond that are invested in mutual funds.

Guy B: Same income as A, but takes out a jumbo mortgage to live in a penthouse. Buys a sports car. Lives on negative equity on his home and has no savings. Eyeballs deep in debt but his high income keeps things ticking over.


Guess who gets much more action?

Its not income, its status. The penthouse and sports car give status.

I feel its an arms race to get laid - if other men are irresponsible financially to get action I have to be as well.

Of course we can still pull as is, but the quality is not as good, just 6s for sex and anything beyond a first date.

 

[Mike32ct]

You are sort of on the right track.

George Sodini lived frugally and had $250k in the bank, yet women wanted nothing to do with him.

A guy could live in a small house, drive an average car, and still be very (secretly) well off financially, but women will perceive him as being poor and will avoid such a guy because he doesn't have the BMW.

 

[Scormus]

On that note when I am in a business suit, tie and wearing my Rolex I find I get chatted up and flirted with quite a bit.

Just a t-shirt and my black mambas and its not the same.

I guess if you don't have the premium height and looks you have to use all the tools at your disposal.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Its not income, its status. The penthouse and sports car give status.

I feel its an arms race to get laid - if other men are irresponsible financially to get action I have to be as well.

Of course we can still pull as is, but the quality is not as good, just 6s for sex and anything beyond a first date.

Then you have to ask yourself if its really worth throwing your life and wealth away just to avoid being without a woman. A hypergamous woman who will leave you when something better comes along ANYWAY. A woman who (if she stays) will get old, bitter, fat and demanding with time. You have to ask yourself--> Is it worth it?

Why not take good care of yourself and spin plates? Much easier and profitable. Its easy to have a high status "front" to initially attract women and f*ck them. In many cases you can even mooch off of them.

I have one buddy who is basically poor, but still gets laid by hot girls. He just lies a lot. He also uses them and mooches off of them.. then dumps them and does the same with another girl. :crackup:

You can play the game however you want.. just don't f*ck yourself over to keep a depreciating woman around. :nono:

 

[instantnoodles]

Then you have to ask yourself if its really worth throwing your life and wealth away just to avoid being without a woman. A hypergamous woman who will leave you when something better comes along ANYWAY. A woman who (if she stays) will get old, bitter, fat and demanding with time. You have to ask yourself--> Is it worth it?

Why not take good care of yourself and spin plates? Much easier and profitable. Its easy to have a high status "front" to initially attract women and f*ck them. In many cases you can even mooch off of them.

I have one buddy who is basically poor, but still gets laid by hot girls. He just lies a lot. He also uses them and mooches off of them.. then dumps them and does the same with another girl. :crackup:

You can play the game however you want.. just don't f*ck yourself over to keep a depreciating woman around. :nono:

You will get just as old, fat, grumpy and hairy, hunny. OH NOES. The gorgeous prince I married is GONE!

Now i'll run off and cheat on him with a 20 year old guy when I'm 60 years old! Or is he? He just got old. It's human nature. Deal with it. The person you met 20 years ago is still the same inside unless they changed their personality

STOP thinking so immaturely. Having only shallow thoughts was when we were 10 years old fawning over getting a girlfriend that looked like Britney Spears or a Boyfriend who's just as hot as Justin Timberlake.

People always tell me i'm goodlooking for my age and will remain this way for most of my life. Guess I'm lucky but it's not the only reason for my existence :crackup:

 

[Scormus]

Why not take good care of yourself and spin plates? Much easier and profitable. Its easy to have a high status "front" to initially attract women and f*ck them. In many cases you can even mooch off of them.
:

That's what I'm doing.

The "front" gets you hotter plates though.

 

[speed dawg]

The "front" gets you hotter plates though.

Agreed. And it's not like you want to keep around long-term the women who are attracted by status. Fake the wealth, f*ck the fake women. It's really that simple, and that's what they are good for.

Live frugally and for the long-term and you'll attract long-term capable women.

But you can't do both at the same time.

 

[Scormus]

Live frugally and for the long-term and you'll attract long-term capable women.

But you can't do both at the same time.

I am 36 and realistically my window isn't getting any wider. Already girls below 26 online almost never respond though still do get action from girls in their late 20s.

No point waiting till I am 60 and have tons of savings and no disrespect meant to older members but realistically I think I will really struggle compared to now that I still look young.

My future is now. Maybe the lavish home for myself will underline my need to perform at work and be a positive thing.

 

[PlayHer Man]

You will get just as old, fat, grumpy and hairy, hunny. OH NOES. The gorgeous prince I married is GONE!

Now i'll run off and cheat on him with a 20 year old guy when I'm 60 years old! Or is he? He just got old. It's human nature. Deal with it. The person you met 20 years ago is still the same inside unless they changed their personality

STOP thinking so immaturely. Having only shallow thoughts was when we were 10 years old fawning over getting a girlfriend that looked like Britney Spears or a Boyfriend who's just as hot as Justin Timberlake.

People always tell me i'm goodlooking for my age and will remain this way for most of my life. Guess I'm lucky but it's not the only reason for my existence :crackup:

Like I always say about posts by instantnoodles.. if you're making a woman mad.. you're on to something. After all, women only grin when you are proposing things that benefit THEM. Even if its at the expense of men.

@instantnoodles: You know damn well its easier for an older man to "trade up" to a younger and hotter woman than the reverse. This is why.. as women age.. they start looking for security. :yes:

Yeah.. I know she is "the same person inside" --> that's great for friendship.. not for sex. Men don't get hard looking at pictures of a woman's thoughts :crackup: :crackup:

Also.. how many women drop men after they lose their jobs, lose their status, become sick, etc? Women dump men for the most ludicrous reasons. Are they not the same person on the inside?

Cut the crap instantnoodles

 

[Scormus]

Whatever a woman says about relationships - do the opposite!

 

[nismo-4]

Men value love and women love value.

I remember when I was in college, I walked around with either a Jacobs or a Rolex watch, either one was fake. But when I added my suit and tie to this, I got a lot of attention, more numbers, dates, etc. The cologne helped too, at one time a short milfy administrative assistant wanted to marry me and bang me, despite her already being married!

But take the same me, with jeans and a t shirt. No rolex, no jacobs, no designer clothes. Far less of everything, and I got viewed as poor and undesirable.

Women check out what you have IN THE NOW. Women don't know what a future hunk famous millionaire looks like, they just know that he's not there yet. You must lie to women. The future is now. Take charge, by any means necessary.

Case closed.

 

[zekko]

Status isn't just about the appearance of wealth though. It could be popularity, being well liked, having lots of friends, being respected, or having great skills at something.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

The thing about having all your ducks in a row, and a future set up for yourself, is that you have some type of inner peace, confidence. Sometimes women can sense this.

The guy who's showing off his "diamond plated time piece" may initially attract her but, it's kind of having looks in a way, it may get her over to you, but if she's worth anything, you're still going to have to have game.

You ever show up to a bar where everyone's somewhat dressed up, and you've got on a white T-Shirt and board shorts with sand attached to your legs? As long as you don't give a fvck and not let it bother you, you'll actually make the guy who spent all day shopping for his outfit and accessories look like a duetch.

You're not trying to impess, it's obvious. You don't need to.

 

[Boilermaker]

Status isn't just about the appearance of wealth though. It could be popularity, being well liked, having lots of friends, being respected, or having great skills at something.

This.

 

[Zunder]

Take two identical men height, looks, and game wise:

Guy A: Lives frugally, buys a decent 1 bed for himself with cash after saving for a decade plus and has no mortgage. His savings beyond that are invested in mutual funds.

Guy B: Same income as A, but takes out a jumbo mortgage to live in a penthouse. Buys a sports car. Lives on negative equity on his home and has no savings. Eyeballs deep in debt but his high income keeps things ticking over.


Guess who gets much more action?

Its not income, its status. The penthouse and sports car give status.

I feel its an arms race to get laid - if other men are irresponsible financially to get action I have to be as well.

Of course we can still pull as is, but the quality is not as good, just 6s for sex and anything beyond a first date.

Here is my take:

Guy A - lives that way because that is the way he wants to live

Guy B - lives that way because that is the way he wants to live

.... think about it tax dodgers. Why did I give the same answer?

Here is why: If either of A or B are living a certain way because attracting chicks are there number one priority -- then they are both FVCKED already.

Here is what you guys need to get into your heads: Live how you want to live for YOU first, NOT for chicks first. YOU come first. Get it? I will say it again: YOU. COME. FIRST.

I can't think of anything more supplicating than to live a certain lifestyle because "thats the best way to get chicks".

 

[Scormus]

I get that. But this condemned me to a life of relying on escorts.

Its nice to feel wanted and feel attractive.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I have one buddy who is basically poor, but still gets laid by hot girls. He just lies a lot. He also uses them and mooches off of them.. then dumps them and does the same with another girl.

I can do it without lying, or at least without lying about being poor. The using and mooching part is pretty accurate, though.

 

[The_flying_dutchman]

Guy A can afford more hookers.....I'd rather be guy A.