Squatting Question

[mrRuckus]

Mike95YJ just made stuff up.

Especially C since it's usually connective tissue that's injured, not the muscle.

 

[MrS]

I wouldn't compare numbers if I were you...I'm 6'2, 230 LBS, and I rarely squat anything more than 275 X 6...and, trust me, my legs feel it the next few days; also, my legs are toned and somewhat wide...good enough for me...

The next time you're in the gym, look around; chances are, you'll see very few guys squatting, and the ones who do will likely be squatting no more more than 225 lbs.

So, start at a weight at which you can perform 15-20 reps with perfect form. If you're like me, it'll take awhile to master the form...then you can focus on slowly increasing the weight while lowering the reps.

The amount of weight you can squat means nothing. All that matters is that your legs are feeling the burn and showing gains.

feeling the burn?
this isn't leg extensions, son, this is squats, you should be dying, not feeling the damn burn.

toned and somewhat wide?: bully for you, man, but don't advocate FEELING THE BURN or GETTING A PUMP, wrong advice.

Also, Mike95Y, that's a solid FAIL of a reply.
Legs trained once a week / per 10 days? Do you not squat or something and don't want other people to train properly or something?
If you're squatting 500lbs+ then maybe. But not with his mighty 250lb x 6 squat.

Lastly, to my main man Kerpal. Constructive criticism, because you're a cool dude and I know you train properly. Don't get too hung up on the whole hip joint past knee thing, people might think that you mean get to there then pop back up - fine if you squat wide/powerlifting stance, close./olympic style this is a bit impractical and not very good for your knees, some people could grind to a halt just below the mark you describe and go back up - knees as brakes, bad. So just throw in the generic "a2g!!!!!!1oneoneone" quips instead!

 

[falcon814]

Rippetoe is a 3x5 program not 5x5.


And its a PROVEN program, i did it gained over 30 pounds in 7 months and my strength sky rocketed.

Nothign wrong with squatting 3x/week.


OP keep doing it.

 

[MrS]

Should be dying? LOL...I hope you're not one of those fvucking idiots in the gym screaming like a pregnant woman due to lifting too much weight. You certainly convey yourself as one.

How big are you? How long have you been working out? Do you have any valid pics to back your "should be dying" assertion? Dude, you better be fvucking jacked if you're going to come on this site and try to flame me.

Anyway, "dad," you keep squatting those heavy weights and "dying"...as for myself, I'll continue to lift with proper form with minimal weight and keep incurring gains (like I've been doing for the past 3 years)..., but in the meantime I'll share with you a lesson: no one can squat 3X a week for several years to the point that he feels like he "should be dying" even if he's on steroids...not possible. I've spent enough hours to know...and I've taken steroids, too, and I'll tell right now that it's damn near impossible to train all out at such stupid levels of intensity.

Train with your brain, A$$head.

I never said you can squat indefinitely 3 times a week, as I said when you get to a heavy weight you simply can't, but at anywhere near 300lbs you probably can.

Is that your attitude in life as well? Minimal weight and incurring gains? Are these noticeable gains or are they what you think are gains but in reality are just some number crunching over a long period of time?

Squats should be the most taxing exercise there is, it should go far beyond feeling a burn. I never mentioned screaming.

And also, since when did you become a member of the form police? What do you think perfect form gets you, better MUSCULAR BREAKDOWN? SLOW NEGATIVES are the way to go for that, proper form is to know the proper mechanics of the exercise, not avoid the issue by using a low weight but claiming it is perfect form and justifying it, man up and put some **** on the bar.

For the record, I squat 1200lbs, deadlift 2000lbs.
This is in internetland.

And you kind of talk some silliness there, if I was huge and jacked, 300lbs of might you would take what I said more seriously?

You didn't really present anything for a viable argument in that post of yours.

I won't go to "what are your numbers & stats!!!" land because that isn't the point I want to make.

 

[speakeasy]

Squats should be the most taxing exercise there is, it should go far beyond feeling a burn. I never mentioned screaming.

I've found deadlifts to be the most taxing. Those are a b*tch to do!

 

[Drum&Bass]

I think OP might be a bit more advanced than the Rippetoe program

 

[falcon814]

I wouldn't compare numbers if I were you...I'm 6'2, 230 LBS, and I rarely squat anything more than 275 X 6...and, trust me, my legs feel it the next few days; also, my legs are toned and somewhat wide...good enough for me...

The next time you're in the gym, look around; chances are, you'll see very few guys squatting, and the ones who do will likely be squatting no more more than 225 lbs.

So, start at a weight at which you can perform 15-20 reps with perfect form. If you're like me, it'll take awhile to master the form...then you can focus on slowly increasing the weight while lowering the reps.

The amount of weight you can squat means nothing. All that matters is that your legs are feeling the burn and showing gains.

I squat 3 times a week and my legs are growing and i dont feel the "burn"...

i feel what MrS described.

Dont come on a forum acting like you know every about everything son.

 

[MrS]

I've found deadlifts to be the most taxing. Those are a b*tch to do!

I can push myself "easier" than on the squat, it's different mechanics for me.

 

[user43770]

Well, my friend, you did say that it's possible to squat 3 days a week to the point that you feel like "you're dying." That's bullshiat--but don't take it from me....just look around your local gym. How many guys you see squatting 3 times a week at such high intensity? I've belonged to several gyms in my 3-year fitness endeavor, and I can cannot recall a single person who squats 3 times a week...let alone squats intensely 3X a week. LOL.

The majority of the people at my gym don't squat at all. Most of the people who do squat only go down about a quarter of the way. According to you, Espi, this is what I should base my knowledge on? The fact of the matter is, most people at the gym read Men's Fitness magazines and don't know what they're talking about.

 

[speakeasy]

I do quite a bit of cycling, both cross-country and uphill, sometimes 15 miles in one shot. Where does this fit in as far as working out your legs?

 

[Warboss Alex]

I do quite a bit of cycling, both cross-country and uphill, sometimes 15 miles in one shot. Where does this fit in as far as working out your legs?

If you want to have legs like a cross-country cyclist, it's fine. If you wanna squat 500-600lbs and have the legs that go with that, then obviously, it's not.

Different strokes for different folks, which is the point most people on this thread are missing.

 

[Kerpal]

Lastly, to my main man Kerpal. Constructive criticism, because you're a cool dude and I know you train properly. Don't get too hung up on the whole hip joint past knee thing, people might think that you mean get to there then pop back up - fine if you squat wide/powerlifting stance, close./olympic style this is a bit impractical and not very good for your knees, some people could grind to a halt just below the mark you describe and go back up - knees as brakes, bad. So just throw in the generic "a2g!!!!!!1oneoneone" quips instead!

True, but I never said you have to stop right when your hip joint is below the top of your knee. I don't; I use a shoulder-width stance and go as deep as I can, "bouncing" off my adductors, not my knees, at the bottom, as instructed by Mark Rippetoe. I'm just pointing out that if your hip joint is not below the top of your knee, it isn't a full squat.

 

[speakeasy]

I have been both squatting and doing a lot of cycling. I know that my glut and leg muscles must be getting bigger. Now that I'm starting to wear my jeans again after a long summer of only baggy shorts, I can feel the difference, they're getting quite tight around the ass and the legs. I want upper body mass more than lower and it seems like the gains I'm getting are mostly legs and ass rather than arms and chest. Sucks that I might have to replace all my jeans now.

 

[Warboss Alex]

The legs have more than half the muscles in your body, it's natural that they will grow faster. But you can be sure that if your legs are growing, your upper body is growing too (just not necessarily at the rate you'd hope for ).

 

[speakeasy]

The legs have more than half the muscles in your body

Never realized that. But upper legs can get pretty massive on some people.

 

[LoneSilver]

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LoneSilver

I'm doing the first exercise in the "Where to start" (Rippetoe's 5x5 program). It calls for squatting three days a week. I'm not sure if I can recover that fast though. I'm 5'9'' 175 and do 280 for 5 reps. Should I go down on the weight a little on the middle day (Wednesday) so as not to overtrain my legs and CNS?

 

[mrRuckus]

You may not be aware but you can ask the coach himself in real time at

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Just register and ask away.

LoneSilver

Don't ask him this question. He'll either ignore the question, laugh at you, or call you a pu55y. Then he'll tell you to read the books and say "First, I'd start by doing the program." I do not exaggerate.

Got any pics son?

I put on about 25 lbs in 6 months. What's the big deal? Sure it's not all muscle but my abs are still visible.


Squats 3x5 +60 lbs
Deadlift 1x5 +65 lbs
90 degree Rows 3x5 +60 lbs
Overhead Press 3x5 +40 lbs

I squat 3x a week and deadlift once. I alternate dips and presses.

I'm pretty sure if i deadlifted a 1RM now it'd be over 400. I squat over 3 plates.

Am I a liar?

 

[ProDJ26]

wow mike and caf where have you been?

lmao