Spiritual awakening, I'm kinda lost

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Have you had this before? What caused you to have it?

I'm at the point of my life where self-improvement is masturbation for me. I mean, there is always room for improvement, but there is a point of diminishing return.

We tell everyone to self-improve, to do better, get better job, better physique, mindset, better women, etc. What happens when you do all of that? What happens after you achieve the goals you've created for you. You can create more goals, keep hustling, but to what end? More money will always gonna bring more problems.

I have this great life (whatever this $hit means) that I worked hard to achieve, but I don't know what yo do with it, I'm the first in my generation to have achieved it, so I don't know what comes next. It feel weird when you've always worked hard to get what you want, but after having it, how do you disconnect the "hustling" mindset, I'd like to chill for a couple of years, coast through life, enjoy some peace alone, but there is this negging doubt in my mind that if I'm not working hard, I'm not doing good, its like "Hard Worker" defines me, but I don't fvcking wanna keep working hard, I wanna chill for now.

I've been watching videos of spiritual awakening, to search what is happening to me, and it has made some sense, how I'm starting to see the world for how it is.

I'd like to know experiences from you guys.
 

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I think one thing you need to do is to think about and ask yourself "What do I really want from life?".

And maybe not in the sense most people think about it...maybe look at it on a higher level than most people usually would where they think of career, finances, kind of house, car, etc. Look at what makes you happy and what you think would actually lead to a fulfilling life for you.

It's hard to actually set a course to sail without knowing where the destination of where you are trying to get to.

It would be like just wandering aimlessly and going whatever direction the wind is blowing that day.

Which is what many people do in life.

So I think the first step is you need to have a clear, concrete vision of what you want your life to be and what your end goal is in terms of happiness and fulfillment.

Then from there you can create short, medium and long term goals to reach that.

Me, personally, I want to be able to retire and be financially free so that I can throw away the clocks if I want to and never hear another alarm again in my life.

Then I want to start some sort of non-profit to give to those less fortunate than me. Maybe start a program that picks random people and pays off their bills or something. Not give to some foundation that uses half the money to pay people that work there. Give it directly to people who need the help and who are deserving of it.
 
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I've always believed in God (Jesus to be clear) I've had a lot of stuff happen in my life that I won't get into, which confirms he exists (to long to type) I'm not here to preach because I do think the Bible is a book every man should read.

Back in 2015 I was working a stressful job, I had "Golden Handcuffs" was making the most money in my life but I hated and loathed the job.
I had done everything you can think of 2014 got in the best shape of my life. Was drinking/clubbing etc
I had a new social circle of guys who were studs (No flamingo)
However I was empty and I hated my life due to my job at the time

I started meditating first, it was 15 minutes a day
Then an hour a day
It came to a point where, when I was meditating so much, it became addictive but in a good way
How I was perceiving things changed
My whole mood shifted more positive, I could feel peoples emotions, I could see micro expressions etc. I was in tune not just with myself but with my environment around me.

The issue is that drinking and meditating don't mix. You don't realize how much you damage your brain by drinking until you meditate etc
I haven't done it in a while but I should

I challenge anyone to meditate for a week, 1 hour a day, if you need to listen to music, do that. Stay away from the psuedo new age crap as some of that opens up portals to entities who love to harssas human beings

Matterfact let me log off this computer and meditate right now haha
 

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I think you asked a similar question a while back....?

A few days ago I read an article about people who aren't satisfied and a lot of the characteristics I recognized in myself.

See what you think:

I am lucky I have two hobbies that I derive satisfaction from. One is super engaging and requires everything you have to throw at it. The other is more relaxing and personal. Both are very meaningful and rewarding and remain challenging. Far more meaningful than what I have achieved in my career. I also like to build things with my hands(welding, sheet metal fab, wood) and that helps my mental health. I'm never not busy.

You have to be able to tell yourself its ok to sit and chill at times. Its ok to not be productive at times. Its ok not to be perfect. Its ok to not be so task/goal driven. Its ok not to bust your azz every possible hour. Like @Solomon mentioned, you need to change how you perceive things.

I could never meditate but I get the idea behind it, but I do try and chill out on Sundays. Reflecting on how short life really is has slowed me down and allowed me to chill out more often.
 

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You are simply experiencing the blessing and curse of being an ambitious person. There is good and bad to being a highly motivated person and one of the bad things is not having an "off" switch.

I won't repeat what Solomon and Duke have already said but they gave you some good advice. You need to find something that you can focus on for pure enjoyment that is not dependent on other people because when people are part of the equation frustration is a possibility (that means chasing pvssy can't be the outlet). Whether that is an active hobby or you simply make Sunday a day where you do nothing or sit in your local pub and have a beer you need a day to be relaxed and not stress over your professional pursuits. Take at least a day for yourself.

Also, this may seem overly simplistic, but DO plan vacations for yourself. I used to power through the early years in my career without ever taking a vacation and was really doing a disservice to myself. You need to recharge.
 

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I'm 39, turning the Big 40 next year. I'm at a time where a few of my relatives are starting to die and fade away. My parents are in their 70s and I'd like to cherish whatever I have left with them. Use this time to decide what really matters to you and your values. I also agree that you gotta find some Quiet, introspective activities such as meditation, maybe prayer and reading or maybe even taking walks at the park with your dog etc to gather your thoughts and get a sense of peace of mind.
 

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I echo what Duke and BackintheGame and Solomon and Barrister have said.

Contentment, or satisfaction is an inside job, You gotta be internally solid. Perhaps for OP there is no real roadmap if he is the first in his family to achieve something. People will be envious around him and some may secretly want to see him fail. That is different than coming from an upbringing where achievement is expected, but for the ambitious the result, once something has been achieved, can be this feeling of:

Ok. I'm here (spent all this time/effort to get HERE.....Now What?)

And then it is easy to become unfocused and drift a bit in life. Take time to reflect, figure out the bigger picture, get square with yourself.

For me I feel a wonderful sense of gratitude. I have a comfortable life many people would envy, I have honestly all the "stuff" I need, I have passive income that I have worked hard to create and maintain, and I am now working a reasonable amount, maintaining my properties and managing my portfolio, enjoying a nice trip or a nice meal if I like, and keeping on this way another 3 years until my youngest is through high school. Then I can retire if I want, on a modest passive income. I am pursuing creative endeavors like singing & writing & design.

There is always someone with MORE. More stuff, hotter woman, more expensive house, etc., etc., etc.,

I don't need a G6 and a private island to be happy. I am already happy/satisfied. I have some things people are impressed with but I don't have those things to impress other people, I have those things for me.

Legacy is another thing that is becoming a real priority for me now. How do I teach my kids what I have learned? How do I pass on what I have earned?

So its not all about me anymore.

Find some good mentors. Learn how they think. You want people more successful than you who you can learn from.

And be your own best friend. Be kind to yourself.
 

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Have you had this before? What caused you to have it?

I'm at the point of my life where self-improvement is masturbation for me. I mean, there is always room for improvement, but there is a point of diminishing return.

We tell everyone to self-improve, to do better, get better job, better physique, mindset, better women, etc. What happens when you do all of that? What happens after you achieve the goals you've created for you. You can create more goals, keep hustling, but to what end? More money will always gonna bring more problems.

I have this great life (whatever this $hit means) that I worked hard to achieve, but I don't know what yo do with it, I'm the first in my generation to have achieved it, so I don't know what comes next. It feel weird when you've always worked hard to get what you want, but after having it, how do you disconnect the "hustling" mindset, I'd like to chill for a couple of years, coast through life, enjoy some peace alone, but there is this negging doubt in my mind that if I'm not working hard, I'm not doing good, its like "Hard Worker" defines me, but I don't fvcking wanna keep working hard, I wanna chill for now.

I've been watching videos of spiritual awakening, to search what is happening to me, and it has made some sense, how I'm starting to see the world for how it is.

I'd like to know experiences from you guys.

Get 3 grams of shrooms. Sit quietly in a room. No music. No tv. No cell phone. Just meditate. The answers will come.
 

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I think you asked a similar question a while back....?
Yeah. I've been trying to see how this life fits me. I achieved my goals in the spam of 3 years, of those 2.5 I was in a relationship. I have this freedom now, but I just don't want to waste it in women and parties.

Also, this may seem overly simplistic, but DO plan vacations for yourself. I used to power through the early years in my career without ever taking a vacation and was really doing a disservice to myself. You need to recharge.
I like this.

You have to be able to tell yourself its ok to sit and chill at times. Its ok to not be productive at times. Its ok not to be perfect. Its ok to not be so task/goal driven. Its ok not to bust your azz every possible hour. Like @Solomon mentioned, you need to change how you perceive things.

I could never meditate but I get the idea behind it, but I do try and chill out on Sundays. Reflecting on how short life really is has slowed me down and allowed me to chill out more often.
I agree with this

spent all this time/effort to get HERE.....Now What?
Exactly.

meditating
I can't do this man, I don't have the patience.

Get 3 grams of shrooms. Sit quietly in a room. No music. No tv. No cell phone. Just meditate. The answers will come.
I really want to do this, but I'm fvcking scared, I can do weed, but Idk I don't want my mind to get fvcked.
 

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The issue honestly is this: You set goals, right? You accomplished those goals. So now what?

You have to adjust your mindset here or you'll drift aimlessly and you'll feel unfulfilled.

This is why I suggest mentors who are more successful in life than you are. Your thinking, otherwise known as your mindset, determines your trajectory in life. If you associate with people who think bigger than you do now, your thinking will expand also. You'll see what is possible. If you are the most expansive thinker in your social group/family, whatever (you associate with people less successful than you), those people are not capable of teaching you the way to go (you must also decide where you want to go of course as was noted earlier in the thread.)

First step in your decision process is "What do I value?" Second question is "What do I do next that is consistent with my value system?" and Third question is "What steps do I take to reach my next progression/How do I get there?)

You cannot start with How until you know What.

Set BIG goals. If you fall short your progress will have pushed you to a place where you have better perspective; better visibility. You'll also have the experience and lessons learned that you did not have before.

My original goal years ago was to create passive income to buy back my time (so I wouldn't have to work). I didn't like the financial markets because I like to self determine (e.g., control as many variables as possible). I can't control say Google. I do not have that kind of money, power or influence. But I can control a rental property or three. That is how I started. I bought a few (no fancy vacations/no new cars/no luxury home for my family.) I saved and I borrowed. And I started seeing results. So I expanded more and more. As I expanded my vision grew and my perspective changed.

Go read my old thread "Success Starts Between Your Ears". You need to first decide what you value.

Becoming a missionary in rural Bolivia is very different than being a successful business owner, is very different than being a playboy.

We cannot help you with the directions until you set a destination. Nor can you help yourself until you set a destination.
 

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I really want to do this, but I'm fvcking scared, I can do weed, but Idk I don't want my mind to get fvcked.
Hey man if you ever do it start off with extremely small amounts. Do it in a safe pleasant place. As long as it is a small amount ( less than 2grams) you will be perfectly fine. I did it a few times and it changed my life for the better. It made me much more empathetic. If you ever choose to do it you can direct message me for tips bro. I dont want to derail the thread.
 

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Why not set a large, but distant goal for yourself? Find something you want for your future that is going to take time and money to achieve. If you want a retirement where you live on a beach, find places that you can travel to and figure out if you'd move there.

Or you could do what I recently did... Find a men's support and/or self-help group so you can share your success and help others. It's never ending and you're always going to be helping somebody.
 

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look into what a samurai really is, and the difference between them and a daimyo. take an honest look at yourself and decide if your one or the other or something else. do action and research based on your answer.

take a look into "white pill". your telling about having a working knowledge of red pill, and it leaves you flat.. flat like crashed e2.

meditation is good. it can be good if you able to manage doing it in ways that are helpful.
 
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