spin more plates

[Bingo-Player]

Spin more plates

Over the years I’ve learnt Women are pretty simple , its all the nonsense that comes with them that’s complicated

Games , flaking , ghosting , ignorance , attitudes , confusion ……it comes when you are too heavily invested in one woman

BUT there’s no need to really worry about any of it

the best way not to worry ? – spin more plates

chick is playing games – spin more plates

bored at work - spin more plates

chick is flaking on dates – spin more plates

chick is ghosting you – spin more plates

chicks attitude is bad – spin more plates

chick is confusing you – spin more plates

when your spinning so many plates one woman not responding the way you want her too isn’t a problem because theres 10 more to take her space and keep you entertained

to be honest initially this wasn’t the way I wanted to go with my game

I wanted to be so good I could pretty much bend a single woman’s will , but I’ve found that because women are so temperamental unless you want to date down i dont think this is possible


So the only answer I can think of is to just keep ploughing through tons and tons of plates …..keep the good ones smash the bad ones

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

The abundance mentality actually helps when dealing with them as well. The thirst simply isn't there when you know there's another 2 or 3 waiting in the sidelines.

This year I plan to build a harem and already have 3 candidates lined up. Also want to reach 100 notches, which means 25 new women in one year.

 

[Bingo-Player]

yea defenitley i always end up getting too attached to one though that's my biggest problem because it clouds my judgement and i start doing the basics wrong

sounds good though

im going to push for like 30 on standby this year im not taking any prisoners

 

[Glassguy]

Most of my life I was conditioned to believe a man was supposed to find one woman. Trial by fire has taught me this is the worst mentality to have in the dating world.

2-3 is the perfect number for me. There is adequate time in my busy schedule to communicate back with them on occasion to make sure they stay interested.

Any more plates than that and I end up mixing up information they give me, as well as not having time to see them, which ends up in no interest from either side.

Oneitis is caused by not spinning enough plates and also putting women on a pedestal. Same can be said with getting your emotions wrecked, flaking making you upset, etc.

I had a HB9, 11 years younger than me, flake on my 5 months ago. I never brought it up, only moved on to the next one that was on the sidelines. She added me on fb yesterday and started apologizing for bailing out.

Her: I am so sorry for bailing that night. I had several things come up.
Me: no problem hun, no hard feelings here. I ended up getting into something else and had a wonderful evening anyways
Her: When can I make it up to you?
Me: How do you plan on making it up


Most guys would have been popping blood vessels the minute a hot chick flaked. I had other options at my disposal, kept it cool and moved onto another adventure that night.

There is a lot of power in abundance as well as options.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Me: no problem hun, no hard feelings here. I ended up getting into something else and had a wonderful evening anyways

This is the subtle difference between being easy going / unemotional, and be a push-over. This game is actually really simple when you know. This is just the way they weed out the men from the boys. She obviously thought she'd found a better option, but she won't. Let a girl walk away and you give her the option to realise what she's missing; they can work things out logically, given time. And when they do come back, their feelings for you have been consolidated by the absence and your care-free attitude.

 

[AlphaNate]

Rollo's Shotgun Logic

 

[resilient]

Good stuff, guys. Yeah, I think given enough subtle clues, plates can sense when their plate status. You channel confidence, calm, cool, and collected. You walk and talk slower. A devil-may-care attitude. You're comfortable in your own skin. Less nervous. You don't overanalyze everything as much. It's like they can sense that you're not desperate and want to know why or more about you or why you're not putting them up on a pedestal.

 

[The Duke]

Spin more plates

Over the years I’ve learnt Women are pretty simple , its all the nonsense that comes with them that’s complicated

Games , flaking , ghosting , ignorance , attitudes , confusion ……it comes when you are too heavily invested in one woman

This is probably one of the best things I have ever read in this forum. Tons of truth to that. I've known this for a long time but never put it all together like this. That is a quote I will reflect on often.

The only way to keep them attracted is to make them miss you.

 

[TheFixer14]

I have mixed feelings on this.

Spinning more plates can create abundance so that is good. But you are just in fact running away from the problem. Instead of figuring out what's going on you are jumping to other women. And abundance is really a mindset, you don't need to have six women in your life to have abundance.

And spinning more plates is just going to increase your exposure to bull****.

 

[ubercat]

Hard to have the mindset if you ve never experienced abundance. Once u have u stay more relaxed even with zero plates. If you've done it once before you know you can do it again if you feel like it.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I think it is good to have a few women on the radar so you might not get disproportionately hungry for their attention too early on. But just a few. Have too many on the radar and you lose focus. To each woman then you reciprocate the level of interest they show.

 

[Tenacity]

Bingo,

Over the years I’ve learnt Women are pretty simple , its all the nonsense that comes with them that’s complicated

Which would mean women aren't simple because the "nonsense" that comes with them (which is BEYOND your control) makes them very difficult to manage.

This reality should make ALL MEN seriously question if they ever want to do any type of legal relationship with women (marriage or creating kids).

Dating and being in relationships with them is one thing, because if she starts TRIPPING you can leave with all of your assets in place. But with a legal relationship, your assets are on the hook.

Games , flaking , ghosting , ignorance , attitudes , confusion ……it comes when you are too heavily invested in one woman

No, it comes with women PERIOD. And unlike The Manosphere, take it from a guy like me who has actual field experience, the shyt is NOT your fault. The chick does this on her own accord, for any reason or for no reason, randomly. Many times Bingo, the chick is acting a damn fool and SHE doesn't even know why she's acting a damn fool.

chick is playing games – spin more plates

bored at work - spin more plates

chick is flaking on dates – spin more plates

chick is ghosting you – spin more plates

chicks attitude is bad – spin more plates

chick is confusing you – spin more plates

when your spinning so many plates one woman not responding the way you want her too isn’t a problem because theres 10 more to take her space and keep you entertained

Here's the problem though Bingo, you assume do "more of the same thing" creates a different result.

I believe every woman left on this market is fvcked up in some capacity and with the feminism/gynocentric market we have out here, many of these bad traits are NOT looked down upon by society. If a guy were to bring them up, well, he's just not a "real man" because a "real man" would be able to HANDLE it.

Spinning plates just gives you the opportunity to get more pvssy and more dates, from different women. Spinning plates does not avoid you from the bullshyt "personality/attitude defects" of these women, matter of fact, the MORE you spin plates the MORE you are exposed to the shyt.

As I continue my journey, yes, I've been doing more "serious" relationships with women, but I don't think I will EVER do a legal tie-in. I just want to be able to leave when this chick starts acting a god damn fool. Notice I said WHEN, not IF, because it's coming.....you can bet your a.ss it's coming.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Bingo,





Spinning plates just gives you the opportunity to get more pvssy and more dates, from different women. Spinning plates does not avoid you from the bullshyt "personality/attitude defects" of these women, matter of fact, the MORE you spin plates the MORE you are exposed to the shyt.

+1.

This is gospel right here and it's something that I'm just now starting to really internalize. I think the reason it's so hard for a-lot of guys on this forum is because, like myself, our earlier years were filled with quite a bit of rejection and embarrassment with women. When that happens and you begin to improve, you want to reach that perfect state where you feel as if you're able to completely control a woman's response to you. Because before, you had no control.

So as you improve yourself and start seeing more results you keep thinking that perfection with women will be attainable one day, i.e. I'll be so perfect that any woman who I'm with whether that be a 'plate' or a long term relationship, if she leaves it's because I did something. If she starts acting bitchy or arrogant or flat out cheats on me it's because I went "beta". And quite often that is the case. But there's also another large majority of the time that it's because of what Tenacity stated above: a-lot of women are f*cked up.

What's really hard about this stuff is learning to identify and correct your shortcomings with women while still giving yourself some credit and not thinking that everything is your fault. Eventually you learn that the only thing you can control is yourself and how you react to things. There are times when the failure in whatever type of relationship you had has a-lot to do with her. But as we all know it'll be a cold day in hell when a woman ever admits much at fault in causing the end of a relationship, which again brings more confusion.

 

[Tenacity]

So as you improve yourself and start seeing more results you keep thinking that perfection with women will be attainable one day, i.e. I'll be so perfect that any woman who I'm with whether that be a 'plate' or a long term relationship, if she leaves it's because I did something. If she starts acting bitchy or arrogant or flat out cheats on me it's because I went "beta". And quite often that is the case. But there's also another large majority of the time that it's because of what Tenacity stated above: a-lot of women are f*cked up.

Yes, see we as MEN usually take a position that if we are the "only constant" in something, then we must be the reason for the issues within the particular recurring situation. We like to take a personal responsibility stance to always do self-reflection to figure out "how can I improve"?

But the REALITY is that sometimes you are in a situation where the variables within the environment are creating a recurring experience and while you THINK you are the only "constant", you actually aren't the only "constant".....there's another "constant"....and it's the surrounding conditions of the marketplace you are operating in.

Example

I'll give an extreme example, let's go back to 1942. I'm black and Jim Crow is still running wild.

- I go up to a group of 3 white folks and they all reject my friendship
- I go up to another group of 4 white folks and they reject my friendship
- I go up to a final group of 3 white folks, I'm rejected again

THE MANOSPHERE would say that I'm the only "constant" in that situation, so I must have "done something wrong" to constantly be rejected by those white folks. But the reality is that I wasn't the only "constant", present in all 10 of those white people I encountered was their OWN internal, deep, racism, that I had absolutely NO control over.

I could have "improved" my social skills, dressed better, worked on my swag, got a 6 pack, became more witty, and (insert more things here to "improve" myself) and while I would certainly be a BETTER man than before.......I would STILL get the same result with those white folks.

And with this current market of women, we are going through the same thing. MOST of the issues we have with women are not a result of our lack of "improvement", it's a direct result of the women of this market having their own set of DEEP, internal, issues.

Guys on this forum keep trying to justify the shyt women do by trying to tie it to some sort of "biology", when there's no ties to biology, the women are just OUT of their god damn minds.

 

[ubercat]

Truth but don't forget a woman's randomness also works for you. E.g. a woman rejects you harshly early in the night. You stick out your paw - give her a a crooked smirk and eye contact..it was a pleasure meeting you. Later in the night you hook up with her. You're still the same guy - enjoy the randomness.

 

[btownbuck2012]

And with this current market of women, we are going through the same thing. MOST of the issues we have with women are not a result of our lack of "improvement", it's a direct result of the women of this market having their own set of DEEP, internal, issues.

Guys on this forum keep trying to justify the shyt women do by trying to tie it to some sort of "biology", when there's no ties to biology, the women are just OUT of their god damn minds.

And quite frankly there is nothing worse than a person with deep, internal issues that goes through life wreaking havoc on others because of said issues and takes absolutely zero time to self introspect on said issues in order to correct and lead a better life. But there's a-lot of people out there like that.

The saddest thing to me is when you see or know a woman who you can see is sabotaging a good relationship or situation for herself because she is trying to act out some type of feminist/strong/liberated woman agenda. I really do strongly believe that a solid bond between a man and a woman and the opportunity to raise a family together and build a life together is what life is really about. I mean we're on this planet to procreate and family is a wonderful thing. A good family that is. But so many women aren't able to really recognize that or grasp it for some reason.

I've had sex with hotter women than the girl who broke up with me several months ago, but I miss the connection, the bond. The familiarity there. She...doesn't apparently. So that's that. I don't know, maybe turning into a player and spinning a bunch of different 'plates' is the key to happiness in regards to relationships and women. who knows. who cares. It all gets old after a while.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Yes, see we as MEN usually take a position that if we are the "only constant" in something, then we must be the reason for the issues within the particular recurring situation. We like to take a personal responsibility stance to always do self-reflection to figure out "how can I improve"?

But the REALITY is that sometimes you are in a situation where the variables within the environment are creating a recurring experience and while you THINK you are the only "constant", you actually aren't the only "constant".....there's another "constant"....and it's the surrounding conditions of the marketplace you are operating in.

Example

I'll give an extreme example, let's go back to 1942. I'm black and Jim Crow is still running wild.

- I go up to a group of 3 white folks and they all reject my friendship
- I go up to another group of 4 white folks and they reject my friendship
- I go up to a final group of 3 white folks, I'm rejected again

THE MANOSPHERE would say that I'm the only "constant" in that situation, so I must have "done something wrong" to constantly be rejected by those white folks. But the reality is that I wasn't the only "constant", present in all 10 of those white people I encountered was their OWN internal, deep, racism, that I had absolutely NO control over.

I could have "improved" my social skills, dressed better, worked on my swag, got a 6 pack, became more witty, and (insert more things here to "improve" myself) and while I would certainly be a BETTER man than before.......I would STILL get the same result with those white folks.

And with this current market of women, we are going through the same thing. MOST of the issues we have with women are not a result of our lack of "improvement", it's a direct result of the women of this market having their own set of DEEP, internal, issues.

Guys on this forum keep trying to justify the shyt women do by trying to tie it to some sort of "biology", when there's no ties to biology, the women are just OUT of their god damn minds.

Well is this not "all or none" thinking. Funny that you denigrate Poonking for being uni-dimensional, but here you are doing the same thing.

Racism in 1942 < > Current state of the market today.

Though, agreed, the market is not pretty. Only problem with your example is you take zero responsibility for your actions, yet, by your own admission, had temper tantrums running women off with threats you are going to off women and yourself like Elliot Rodger. You, my friend, have deep-seated issues to iron out and should be focusing on YOU, not the market.

 

[Tenacity]

Well is this not "all or none" thinking. Funny that you denigrate Poonking for being uni-dimensional, but here you are doing the same thing.

I don't believe I'm doing the same thing that Poon King was doing, at least not intentionally.

Racism in 1942 < > Current state of the market today.

Only problem with your example is you take zero responsibility for your actions, yet, by your own admission, had temper tantrums running women off with threats you are going to off women and yourself like Elliot Rodger. You, my friend, have deep-seated issues to iron out and should be focusing on YOU, not the market.

It's a proper analogy to try to paint my point. Legend in 1942, as a black guy, I could have had zero inner game issues, my looks could have been a 10, my dress style a 10, personality a 10.....EVERYTHING a 10. I would have still had the exact, same, issues with white folks because of a MARKET PROBLEM.

My theory is that we are dealing with the same similar situation with women, just this time it's not racism of course, it's what I call the negative effects of women's liberation, feminism, and gynocentrism, along with an entire focus of the country on shifting AWAY from traditional Patriarchy and more to a "Center Left"/matriarchial stance.

Note, Legend, I said I met "maybe" 1 - 4 decent enough quality women over the previous 7 years but that's a big "maybe"....I honestly don't know, it could have been zero. But with all of the women I've been dating/fvcking over the previous 7 years, for only 1 - 4 of them to have been "enough quality for me to possibly consider something legal" is pretty BAD, wouldn't you say?

It's as bad as that 1942 market example, because it would have been like me trying to befriend 150 white people over a 7 year period from 1935 - 1942, but only 1 - 4 white people I could think of returned my friendship. That's not GOOD. That's very piss poor.

My theory is that there's NOTHING we as men can do to control/avoid dealing with the negative effects of women's liberation, feminism, and gynocentrism, along with an entire focus of the country on shifting to a "Center Left"/matriarchial stance. These forces create the following situations:

- Women being flakey

- Women making poor decisions in Fathers of their children (i.e. thugs)

- Women deliberately leaving successful men for bums/thugs/criminals

- A lot of women being flat out bisexual or lesbians

- Women having poor financial management and expecting you (as a real man) to fix it

- Women fvcking thugs for a cycle, then going to find "the good guy" to settle with

- Women having a "take it or leave it attitude", where she will tell YOU all day what YOU need to work on, but when you ask her to work on some of her issues, she will tell you to take it or leave and that a real man should be able to handle it.

- Women randomly FLIPPING on you, which means they have a shift in their personality or attitude towards you that makes the relationship with them hell. This is a huge reason why I'm not doing any legal relationship with women, if she FLIPS I'm fvcked.

- Women wanting the benefits of Patriarchy but not the costs of it. What do I mean? They want you to hold open doors, pull out chairs, pay for their meals, pay for dates, and "court them", but when it comes to svcking your dyck, cooking you a meal, cleaning your house, etc.....well....she will do that only if she FEELS like it but she doesn't quote, unquote "have to do shyt, because just her presence being here should be enough".

- Women screwing good Fathers over in Family Court part one. The guy is there, he loves his kid, he takes care of his kid. And she deliberately fvcks with him.

- Women screwing good men over in Family Court part two. The guy is a hard working husband, but she wants to blow the entire family up because he's working 60 - 70 hour weeks (to try to take care of everybody in the house) and she isn't getting enough "dyck" and "attention".

LEGEND your theory is that all of this stuff goes away if a guy wears nice suits, continues to fix his inner "stuff", looks good, and MAINTAINS THE FRAME. And what I come to tell you is that I believe your theory is wrong. You can be 100% PERFECT as a guy (or damn near close to it) and these issues will STILL remain because they are a reflection of uncontrollable market forces. Just ask BRAD PITT.