Spent 6 months hanging around with a lot of women - this board speaks the truth!

[expos]

Spent 6 months hanging around with a lot of women - here’s what I have found out.

I’ve been in a committed relationships for the past 6 months with an amazing woman. Great sex, she spoils me, never a dull moment, and I’m holding the power and calling the shots. It’s never been work and I never get any grief. So, with this new relationship, I’ve been introduced to a lot of her friends. I get a lot of intimate details about them from my girlfriend and what makes them tick. So, with a lot of first hand experience, I can report with great accuracy what a lot of these women are thinking and feeling. A lot of what you read on these is forums is the absolute truth.

So here are my findings. Also, it should give you some insight as to what makes her hamster wheel spin if you are currently stuck in a hard place with a woman.


1. Women are even more insecure than you think. You may think she’s confident and holding the power at all times, but so many of these woman are so weak. A few examples: My girlfriend was very upset after her break up with her ex-boyfriend (who wasn’t a DJ at all, and was by no means a stud). He started dating a girl soon after they split and it really wrecked her. So, she showed me a photo of this girl and she was CONVINCED that she was prettier than her. Not the case at all! This girl was very plain and not attractive, but in my girlfriend’s head, she must be more attractive than her in order for him to want to be with her. My girlfriend is rich, professional, powerful, beautiful woman and has no reason to feel this way. But she does!!! Women operate on this faulty way of thinking and can’t stand the fact that you could possibly love someone more than them. To my girlfriend, her ex actually became more attractive to her because he found someone new and someone else found him valuable.

2. It’s true, women desire the a**hole. Case in point, my ex-wife talked badly about all of her exes. But who did she befriend on Facebook after we split? It was not the guy who cried on the phone to her and wrote her a love letter after they split. It was not the guy who bothered her after they broke up and even had the courage to go to her parents house to talk to her, which resulted in her dad asking him to leave.

No, it was the guy who did anal with her, treated her like crap, and dumped her with no explanation back in college. This was the guy who made her gears turn because he was “mysterious”, was “pushy”, and didn’t cater to her behavior. He had HER respect, because he expressed lower interest and went ghost.

When my ex-wife got *****y with me post-divorce, I started treating her like crap and let her know I was fvcking someone else. Guess who was friendly with me the next time she saw me?

Another example involves one of my girlfriend’s friends. She’s attracted to a guy who is constantly playing head games with her and doesn’t want to be exclusive. My girlfriend fields calls from her every other night because of all the crap he’s pulling. They’ve banged already, but he doesn’t want to be her boyfriend. She talks about him incessantly and tries to make weekend plans, but his aloofness drives her nuts. You can bet that if he was “nice guy” and catered to her, this courtship would be quite boring for her.

3. All women crave a good hard f**cking. That’s right, absolutely rail her as hard as possible. You think women want a good, passionate, gentle lover? No they don’t. Once a week, I plow my girlfriend with brute force and I always notice that she clings to me the whole night as we sleep. I’m demanding in bed, telling her to what to do and forcing her to do new things. If you are passive in bed, you are probably even more passive in your life. Lead and dominate your woman and watch her submit to you.


4. You spoil her, it’s basically over. My girlfriend’s sister is married. She’s a bit of princess, moody, but genuinely a great person. She’s married to a good, but introverted guy. He’s a web programmer and very smart intellectually, but gives into all of her demands. It’s clear she’s running the show and when we all hang out, she acts miserable. I get the feeling that if he would start putting his foot down, she might actually respect him a little more and make HIS life good. They’re relationship is really hard to watch. I notice that whenever I call her out on her behavior in joking way, she changes her attitude, and I’m hoping he’ll do the same soon otherwise it's going to be a hard road for him.


5. Dress well, workout, keep clean. We all went out one night to club, and I made a point to put together a good outfit and present myself in the best way possible. I’m also working out 6 days a week (40 miles of running and 4 days of lifting per week). I keep things sharp and never get complacent with my appearance. Many times during the night, my girl would pull me off the dance floor mid song and tell me hot I looked and make out with me in some dark corner of the bar. We are six months into our relationship and that fire is still there with her. She loves my appearance, and you can bet that desire would not be there if I was a slob who didn’t know how to dress.

I guess the point of this post is to make you guys realize what women really respond to. The biggest thing I’ve learned in the past six months is boundaries and being in control of your own life. Excitement and unpredictability also go a long way as evidenced by my girlfriend’s friends, and I’m finding new ways to enjoy life and asking my girl to join me in whatever adventure I’m taking on that week. I understand that this is nothing new, but I’m able to witness this stuff first hand and it’s helped me tremendously in my current relationship. This board speaks the truth!!!

 

[Dgwizdal]

Great read. Repped - will add more tomorrow

 

[expos]

please do! It's amazing how complex they all are, but how they respond to the same things. Looking forward to your contribution.

 

[Greasy Pig]

Great FR with real-life examples.
There's something in this for everyone, from players to those in LTRs.

 

[Induced Drag]

It's really amazing to me after all of this time, experience and different g/f how off I was about women. The more I learn the more I learn I knew nothing. Thanks for the post.

 

[skinnyguy]

Thanks for the post. It seems that you are already quite good looking - what kind of advice do you have for intelligent guys who aren't attractive?

 

[Nn877]

"Treat your queen like a maid and she'll love you like a king." Good post

 

[Sofomore]

Thanks for the post. It seems that you are already quite good looking - what kind of advice do you have for intelligent guys who aren't attractive?

Hit the gym. Find hobbies. Be more social. Understand that personality will get you a lot further with women than good looks.

 

[old_skoolr]

Awesome post OP.

One thing I want to add, that you can learn so much about women, just buy listening to them talk to each other. I've got a few friends who are girls and listening to them talk about sex and guys is extremely interesting. You really learn how messed up they are and how messed up some guys are too lol.

 

[sylvester the cat]

what kind of advice do you have for intelligent guys who aren't attractive?

what relevance is that to you?

 

[expos]

Thanks for the post. It seems that you are already quite good looking - what kind of advice do you have for intelligent guys who aren't attractive?

Hey Skinnyguy.

I've read a lot of your posts and it seems like you suffer from some low self esteem. I will be the first to tell you that women pick up on that before anything else. They have the uncanny ability read you, play with your emotions, and spot a good deal (i.e. - support). They will want NOTHING to do with you if you are wimp, self-loathing, and lack confidence.

Let me give you a couple more examples of my life.

When I first meet girl and I'm getting to know her, naturally talk moves into who they dated in the past. I will go online and look the guys up to see what they look like, what they do, and creep their Facebook profiles. This gives me a good idea of what types of guys they are into.

So in my findings, I'm seeing that my a lot of my exes have dated a lot of guys who weren't good looking. I was actually pretty shocked at how bad some of these guys looked. But what this tells me is that they were compensating in some way that made them attractive to my ex-partners. They could have been really smart, made good money, had a really good sense of humor, or have been all-around good guys who were relationship material.

My ex-wife is with a guy now is just a slob all-around. He's very fat, dresses poorly, and has poor facial aesthetics. There is no comparison in terms of who looks better (me versus him). She won't even post photos of them together on Facebook, but she is in love with this guy and he must have qualities that is making her stay with him and not come running back to me. To her, he is a better deal and I can live with that.

This past month I attended a party thrown by a friend. I showed up to the party dressed in a tie, slacks, and sportcoat because I just finished attending a gala thrown by my girlfriend's employer, so I was looking very sharp. My friend was drunk and he was talking a lot crap and letting the truth serum take over. He pulled me over at one point during the night and started saying all this crap to me.

He said the following "Dude, every time you walk into the room, girls stare at you. You're like 6-2, you dress really well, you're very articulate and interesting, you have a Calvin Klein model body, and you are a leader at your job. But this past summer, you projected absolutely NO CONFIDENCE when you opened your mouth, and that's why no chick wanted you. You were a mess after your divorce and women could smell that."

It hurt for me to hear that, but he was right. Under my facade, I was a groveling sap who let a sh!tty person destroy me. My missing element, which was confidence, hindered my ability to succeed. Once I got my confidence back I was GOLDEN. That's how I got my current girlfriend.

Skinnyguy, I really hope you are taking this all in and seeing that what I'm posting is real and authentic. You need to change your way of thinking and build your self esteem. Get that confidence and go out and claim what is yours.

 

[Mr. Bond]

This post is pretty accurate. Lots of threads on this site about how women are full of hating/bashing/etc which comes from being hurt/frustrated/whatever.

Good stuff, + rep.

 

[expos]

This post is pretty accurate. Lots of threads on this site about how women are full of hating/bashing/etc which comes from being hurt/frustrated/whatever.

Good stuff, + rep.

Repped! Thanks.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Giving You Advice is a Waste of time

Thanks for the post. It seems that you are already quite good looking - what kind of advice do you have for intelligent guys who aren't attractive?

Since you believe in your heart of hearts that your looks is your biggest hindrance in regards to knowing women carnally, there's absolutely nothing anybody on this board can recommend for you to do. Besides, if some kind hearted individual were to take pity upon you and offer the advice you claim you seek, it isn't likely you'd actually take and implement it. What I'd suggest you do is holla at ugly, fat, domineering, or those BPD chicks. Skinnyguy in the same category as pyros and Dhoulmagus in that you're not here to acquire the requisite knowledge to make yourself more attractive to chicks, then implement it. You just want to come on here and vent, then have nerve enough to wonder why chicks aren't taking you "as you are."

 

[Turuwal]

Yes, yes, yes, yes and fvcking yes!

Repped

 

[expos]

One more anecdote:

Leaving or Trying to win her back? Less Is More.

I had discussion with a girl I was banging for about two months last year. She was unfaithful to her husband (she cheated on him with some guy she worked with) and he wasn’t emotionally there for her. After she told him she wanted out, he cried and he decided to write a letter to her to ask her back. Of course, it didn’t work, because she was with me at the time. I asked her how she felt about the letter, and she said it made her think even less of him. I came to the realization that if he wanted an actual shot with her during their separation, he should have just disappeared, which brings me to the conclusion that less is more in courtship. She would have been thinking about him more if he was absent and not begging for her return.

Here’s an example. Let’s say you go to the movies. You are walking down the hallways of the cinema and looking at all the posters of the new movies coming out in the fall. 5 or 6 of these posters are very self explanatory. You see all the actors faces on the poster, as well as the tagline, credits, explosions, etc. They aren’t really captivating. But there is one poster that shows very little at the end of the hallway. Maybe it’s just a vague tagline, or one solid color, or some artsy looking shot that explains NOTHING about the film whatsoever. Which movie poster will you be thinking about on the ride home?

The one LEAST revealing.

This applies to relationships, courtships, breakups, your social media, etc. The most mysterious desires to be solved. The less you show your feelings, the more the woman will want to find out what makes you tick. The less you text, the more they wonder where you are. The more you chase, the more they will run. The more private your Facebook page, the more a person would want to visit it to see if they can get a glimpse of you. (when my girlfriend first met me, she looked at my Facebook page and it was pretty private. Not satisfied, she actually googled me to see more photos of me. lol)

You need to think consciously about these things when you are in the game.